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On October 15 2012 22:59 -Kyo- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 22:29 SupLilSon wrote:On October 15 2012 22:23 AlternativeEgo wrote:On October 14 2012 16:31 Greenhit wrote:
Lol desrow complaining about food go figure. Yes, it's not a surprise considering that he is/was on a strict diet and therefore very concerned about what he gets to eat. lol... that's why he went to McDonalds with MorroW on stream the other day, right? Guess he really needed that hot big mac. People like you piss me off. You do realize the cheapest, most accessible food is the worst for you correct, let alone it being "tasteful"? I mean, this is true practically anywhere. Him going out to eat that food, whether it's once or twice, or the whole week just proves how terrible the situation in MoW really is considering what he has been trying to accomplish.
Terrible relative to what?
You don't need fancy or great food to function.
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On October 16 2012 00:41 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 22:59 -Kyo- wrote:On October 15 2012 22:29 SupLilSon wrote:On October 15 2012 22:23 AlternativeEgo wrote:On October 14 2012 16:31 Greenhit wrote:
Lol desrow complaining about food go figure. Yes, it's not a surprise considering that he is/was on a strict diet and therefore very concerned about what he gets to eat. lol... that's why he went to McDonalds with MorroW on stream the other day, right? Guess he really needed that hot big mac. People like you piss me off. You do realize the cheapest, most accessible food is the worst for you correct, let alone it being "tasteful"? I mean, this is true practically anywhere. Him going out to eat that food, whether it's once or twice, or the whole week just proves how terrible the situation in MoW really is considering what he has been trying to accomplish. Terrible relative to what? You don't need fancy or great food to function.
You don't need fancy or expensive food, but you do need the right kinds of foods to function properly.
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if there will be a couple more of these Dramas, i'd say it was time for a collective lawsuit by the affected players.
clearly, MoW is making false promises, thereby not holding true to their oral and/or written contracts.
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On October 16 2012 00:24 rckY wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 23:02 AlternativeEgo wrote:On October 15 2012 22:29 SupLilSon wrote:On October 15 2012 22:23 AlternativeEgo wrote:On October 14 2012 16:31 Greenhit wrote:
Lol desrow complaining about food go figure. Yes, it's not a surprise considering that he is/was on a strict diet and therefore very concerned about what he gets to eat. lol... that's why he went to McDonalds with MorroW on stream the other day, right? Guess he really needed that hot big mac. Maybe he tagged along because he was hungry and all the other guys go there to eat? He's also a keto guy so meat and grease is okay. I recommend reading the McDonald's food values... cause then you would see how much crap is in your statement. Besides that keto never justifies any type of fast food.
I see no "crap" in my "statement", it's just a short note of what specific diet he is/was on. I have no idea what he ordered and I didn't claim that a meal with the bun and fries was okay. Ease.
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Almost all the MoW problems to me sound like the staff didn't properly think over all the logistics of housing players properly.
What the other people said in that audio was dead on, it's the MoW staff's job to be professional. Would it be nice if the players were? of course, and in an ideal world the players should be respectful. However, should a situation arise the last person who should lose their shit over something though is a house manager.
Just my 2 cents, but I don't think MoW fully thought through everything and they are now learning the hard way.
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On October 16 2012 00:13 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 22:59 -Kyo- wrote:On October 15 2012 22:29 SupLilSon wrote:On October 15 2012 22:23 AlternativeEgo wrote:On October 14 2012 16:31 Greenhit wrote:
Lol desrow complaining about food go figure. Yes, it's not a surprise considering that he is/was on a strict diet and therefore very concerned about what he gets to eat. lol... that's why he went to McDonalds with MorroW on stream the other day, right? Guess he really needed that hot big mac. People like you piss me off. You do realize the cheapest, most accessible food is the worst for you correct, let alone it being "tasteful"? I mean, this is true practically anywhere. Him going out to eat that food, whether it's once or twice, or the whole week just proves how terrible the situation in MoW really is considering what he has been trying to accomplish. The thing people seem to not be able to get through their head is, some people almost entirely regardless of what they eat will have weight problems. So, for them to be able to go on a successful weight diet they really have to be careful. When things like this get in their way it's not only concerning, but also disheartening. It makes me sad that people, let alone grown ass men, still harp on people for weight. You think by now people would start to take into account the context of their situation(have I even seen one post in here about metabolism? let me learn u somethin'), the fast food industry around the world, + other blatant world problems. People who act in this egotistical manner hinder progression of a non self destructive society, and the world would likely prosper a greater bit without them promoting garbage everywhere (not you in general suplilson, other posters as seen in the thread. Though your post still is -_-, but I accredit your first post you made which made some sense.) While all this is true... I don't really see how it applies to DesRow... I could write you an essay on social and cultural pressures to eat unhealthy and why DesRow is not a victim of these influences. The point of this thread isn't DesRow's weight and I feel sorry for making that snide post. But in a nutshell, DesRow isn't forced to eat the cheapest, most accessible food. He is not a single mother, he doesn't work multiple jobs, he doesn't have a family to feed, he isn't below the poverty line. If the food at MoW really was that unacceptable the players could just take a few hours to do grocery shopping. You're acting as if McDonalds was his only option besides starvation.
I never said, or claimed this anywhere in my post. What I was attempting to help you understand is that certain diets, no matter how they apply to one person may not apply the same way to another +some other words. Hence why I referenced metabolism. "Unacceptable" and "to his standards" are differentiating phrases I wanted to clarify. Basically, he isn't being treated how he thinks is ethical, or fair. I think that's a perfectly fine argument to make, with the exception of how he made it.
And on a side note, almost every player that isn't EG/Liquid/fully sponsored team probably has to cut corners somewhere with money, assuming they don't work a job somewhere else. Money isn't something lucrative in SC2 - for individual players - sadly enough.
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oh and edit: to the other dude who quoted me~ you'd be surprised how much better your body in general, of course this includes your brain, functions when you're on a balanced diet and working out/fit(I think they got the fitness center down pat though xD). If desrow thinks he is not getting the balanced nutrition he needs then that's his argument to make :D
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On October 16 2012 00:13 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 22:59 -Kyo- wrote:On October 15 2012 22:29 SupLilSon wrote:On October 15 2012 22:23 AlternativeEgo wrote:On October 14 2012 16:31 Greenhit wrote:
Lol desrow complaining about food go figure. Yes, it's not a surprise considering that he is/was on a strict diet and therefore very concerned about what he gets to eat. lol... that's why he went to McDonalds with MorroW on stream the other day, right? Guess he really needed that hot big mac. People like you piss me off. You do realize the cheapest, most accessible food is the worst for you correct, let alone it being "tasteful"? I mean, this is true practically anywhere. Him going out to eat that food, whether it's once or twice, or the whole week just proves how terrible the situation in MoW really is considering what he has been trying to accomplish. The thing people seem to not be able to get through their head is, some people almost entirely regardless of what they eat will have weight problems. So, for them to be able to go on a successful weight diet they really have to be careful. When things like this get in their way it's not only concerning, but also disheartening. It makes me sad that people, let alone grown ass men, still harp on people for weight. You think by now people would start to take into account the context of their situation(have I even seen one post in here about metabolism? let me learn u somethin'), the fast food industry around the world, + other blatant world problems. People who act in this egotistical manner hinder progression of a non self destructive society, and the world would likely prosper a greater bit without them promoting garbage everywhere (not you in general suplilson, other posters as seen in the thread. Though your post still is -_-, but I accredit your first post you made which made some sense.) While all this is true... I don't really see how it applies to DesRow... I could write you an essay on social and cultural pressures to eat unhealthy and why DesRow is not a victim of these influences. The point of this thread isn't DesRow's weight and I feel sorry for making that snide post. But in a nutshell, DesRow isn't forced to eat the cheapest, most accessible food. He is not a single mother, he doesn't work multiple jobs, he doesn't have a family to feed, he isn't below the poverty line. If the food at MoW really was that unacceptable the players could just take a few hours to do grocery shopping. You're acting as if McDonalds was his only option besides starvation.
But i think the point people are trying to make is that the people living in the MoW house are paying extra money so food is included.. Whether or not Desrow wants to eat healthy is his thing but there should be enough food in the house for everyone so he doesn't have to go get a second dinner because dinner was half a sandwich or something.
Doesn't it seem counter intuitive to pay extra money for included food and then be forced to buy groceries because not enough food is supplied...
It makes sense if your already paying money for food but not getting enough to then turn to the cheapest place possible as you already have an existing expense for food.
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Lol this thread is all about Desrow's diet.. Perhaps you should ask him if you're that concerned..
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it's easy to emotionally respond and say things like "shut this place down", "players must boycott such a place" etc, but having a gaming house in europe is such a nice asset to the sc2 scene.
surely someone who has better experience than Maciej can reach out and offer him some guidance? a TL or EG manager could give them some advice, guidelines, etc? not sure if this has happened already, if it has then we can just hope for things to improve there!
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On October 14 2012 08:03 desRow wrote:
I'd like to apologize to those whom I offended. Calling someone a Jew is inappropriate, I was obviously not thinking clearly. However, there is no acceptable excuse. I'm not a racist person, and I promise I will try to handle myself better in future situations. I hope you all accept my apology, and understand it was a mistake I made out of anger
People do not like racist comments. Period. I also learned the hard way buddy. Best thing to do is apologize, become a better person and move in. People will forgive over time.
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I don't know how Poles eat. But I have been watching my diet, and its amazing how much the stuff you put in you effects your mental and physical performance.
Just by not eating as many carbs, cutting all junk foods, and eating good. I feel less hungry, tired, and lazy.
From what I see, Korean houses take care of their players very well. I remember watching a ton of videos where the coaches would shop for groceries for lots of good lean meat, and they generally have a cook. Foreign teams need to take in whats already established and see how they size up to the Koreans. I notice EG also takes care of their players, but they got that EG money.
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On October 16 2012 00:41 Dfgj wrote:
You don't need fancy or great food to function.
Yea, you can just pour any liquid into your gas tank also, the mileage will be about the same.
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On October 16 2012 04:36 Raid wrote:
I don't know how Poles eat. But I have been watching my diet, and its amazing how much the stuff you put in you effects your mental and physical performance.
Just by not eating as many carbs, cutting all junk foods, and eating good. I feel less hungry, tired, and lazy.
From what I see, Korean houses take care of their players very well. I remember watching a ton of videos where the coaches would shop for groceries for lots of good lean meat, and they generally have a cook. Foreign teams need to take in whats already established and see how they size up to the Koreans. I notice EG also takes care of their players, but they got that EG money.
Poles eat just as bad as most modern nations. In Korea/Japan the average diet is hundreds times better so that's why they also eat better at teamhouses. EG players don't appear to be eating healthy, but that's only me judging by what they show to the public (Mashine devouring hamburgers and stuff ^^ )
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On October 16 2012 04:54 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 00:41 Dfgj wrote:
You don't need fancy or great food to function.
Yea, you can just pour any liquid into your gas tank also, the mileage will be about the same.
Good one!
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On October 16 2012 04:25 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 08:03 desRow wrote:
I'd like to apologize to those whom I offended. Calling someone a Jew is inappropriate, I was obviously not thinking clearly. However, there is no acceptable excuse. I'm not a racist person, and I promise I will try to handle myself better in future situations. I hope you all accept my apology, and understand it was a mistake I made out of anger People do not like racist comments. Period. I also learned the hard way buddy. Best thing to do is apologize, become a better person and move in. People will forgive over time.
He just did apologize O.o?
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On October 16 2012 00:33 Velr wrote:
You don’t get F A T from eating at McDonalds 4-5 times a week or even daily... You get fat from ordering a supersize meal with giant coke (+another burger and some nuggets on top) inestad of just the normal menue (I gues in the US this would be the "small" menue from what I hear). It isn't healthy but it won't make you "instant FAAAT".
Yes, there are people that naturally struggle with their weight, like me, but they also don't get F A T from that when they don't have a serious issue going. People, in general, get fat from eating to much while not moving around enough (I'm not even talking sports, just "moving").
I don't know what the food in the mow house exactly is, but the demands some people have here seem to be pretty high (warm breakfast, really? And possibly two other warm meals?).
I would consider this a normal (continental) european diet for a person with an office job (which progaming is):
Breakfast = Bread/Marmelade/Butter or Cereals. Many just skip this.
+ 1 warm plate a day (Pasta, Meat, Rice, Veggies, Potatoes, Fish whatever a normal warm dish is for you... or McD/Pizza/Fast Food).
+ 1 cold plate (bread/meat/cheese) or a sandwich or a salad.
Hungry in between? Eat an Apple/Fruit and/or maybe something (small) sweet.
If they did not specifiy 2 warm meals this would be more than sufficent imho...
+1, makes me wonder if desrow went there to eat (..really? more?) or to practice.
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I didnt read anything except 1 post...
First of all Ministry of Win is not a Polish representation of my country. This is unfair to generalise all Polish people because of one company who opened prohouse have communication problems with theirs clients. Its the same when I would choose one company from United States and I would make an opinion based on this company about all people in United States. Is it nice ?
About Desrow incident. I dont know what happened exactly but I wonder why other players dont complain about prohouse ?
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On December 05 2012 23:00 AzoriuS wrote:I didnt read anything except 1 post... First of all Ministry of Win is not a Polish representation of my country. This is unfair to generalise all Polish people because of one company who opened prohouse have communication problems with theirs clients. Its the same when I would choose one company from United States and I would make an opinion based on this company about all people in United States. Is it nice ? About Desrow incident. I dont know what happened exactly but I wonder why other players dont complain about prohouse ?
Look at the date sir...
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