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On July 17 2012 07:12 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 07:08 aRyuujin wrote:On July 17 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 17 2012 05:30 Fionn wrote:On July 17 2012 03:34 larse wrote:
The worst thing about today's matches is that there are basically no people watching at the studio.
But don't get me wrong, there were also some group matches in the BW era that few people watching at the studio. But with the BW big names in the group matches, the studio should be packed.
Today's matches are all between the biggest names in SC2, but still very few people are there. Worry about KESPA. Mr. Chae has shown he can pack the studio and get thousands of people to show up for GSL finals. If these groups were in the GSL, the place would be packed. I would blame it more on KESPA's marketing of SC2 and how their fan base is mainly Brood War fans. Koreans seem to be fans of players more so than the game. If you had Flash, Fantasy, Bisu and Jaedong playing Sc2 the place would be packed. Perhaps when the GOM players destroy the Kespa players in this OSL the Korean Kespa fans will warm to guys like Mvp and DRG more. or they'll dislike the game even more. Watching MVP taking the first code S kind of disappointed me, because the only thing I remembered him for before SC2 was beating BaBy and losing to flash in some MSL (Bigfile or Hana Daetoo?). It felt like wow, this scrub can be so good? WTF is wrong with the game? It's a different game, yo. Lose the hate, please.
did you read my post?
I was referring to how I felt over a YEAR ago.
thanks.
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On July 17 2012 05:32 0neder wrote:
Worry about Browder. I don't care what's on OGN or GOM if it's not as good or better than BW. I'd wager most current OGN watchers are the same. People aren't just going to switch from soccer to rugby at the drop of a hat. They want soccer or something better.
Soccer or something better? Like Rugby? 
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On July 17 2012 07:19 aRyuujin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 07:12 neoghaleon55 wrote:On July 17 2012 07:08 aRyuujin wrote:On July 17 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 17 2012 05:30 Fionn wrote:On July 17 2012 03:34 larse wrote:
The worst thing about today's matches is that there are basically no people watching at the studio.
But don't get me wrong, there were also some group matches in the BW era that few people watching at the studio. But with the BW big names in the group matches, the studio should be packed.
Today's matches are all between the biggest names in SC2, but still very few people are there. Worry about KESPA. Mr. Chae has shown he can pack the studio and get thousands of people to show up for GSL finals. If these groups were in the GSL, the place would be packed. I would blame it more on KESPA's marketing of SC2 and how their fan base is mainly Brood War fans. Koreans seem to be fans of players more so than the game. If you had Flash, Fantasy, Bisu and Jaedong playing Sc2 the place would be packed. Perhaps when the GOM players destroy the Kespa players in this OSL the Korean Kespa fans will warm to guys like Mvp and DRG more. or they'll dislike the game even more. Watching MVP taking the first code S kind of disappointed me, because the only thing I remembered him for before SC2 was beating BaBy and losing to flash in some MSL (Bigfile or Hana Daetoo?). It felt like wow, this scrub can be so good? WTF is wrong with the game? It's a different game, yo. Lose the hate, please. did you read my post? I was referring to how I felt over a YEAR ago. thanks.
Don't start the hate.
Also, talking about number of fans here, eh? It was devastating at first for an OGN event, then it got to Proleague-on-a-bad-day level.
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Question.
Why these matches are not on the e-sports TV youtube? Since OSL group stages are all on that channel, this non-Kespa group stage should also be on it.
(I know they are on twitch)
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Considering how much better Byun played than Symbol(clumped vikings being his only mistake, compared to 2.5k+ float past the 17 min mark and losing the entire army to siege tanks and etc. etc.), I'm glad that symbol didn't go through.
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On July 17 2012 03:45 Bippzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:08 noddy wrote:On July 17 2012 00:14 dragonborn wrote:On July 17 2012 00:13 noddy wrote:On July 16 2012 23:57 dragonborn wrote:On July 16 2012 23:51 noddy wrote:
Yes Sannn!! Thank you for knocking Symbol out :D Good news for MKP indeed  Yea, good news a Zerg got knocked out You know Symbol is more than a zerg for MKP na he isnt anything special for mkp, just another good zerg But he's gone so no worries No no mkp is a guy to beat and symbol has his number. It is good for mkp specifically that symbol is gone. But clearly you are just balance whining that any zerg out is good
symbol does not nearly have mkp's number lol
symbol won at iron squid
mkp won at mlg
symbol won code s ro32
mkp won at ipl qual
symbol won code s ro16
so overall quite even lol
On July 17 2012 05:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
oh god byun... you are so good... so why did you chose to play one base against san...?
maybe to protect his builds for GSL on thurs? haha i hope =]
On July 17 2012 05:37 Fleuria wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 05:35 zerious wrote:On July 17 2012 05:30 Fionn wrote:On July 17 2012 03:34 larse wrote:
The worst thing about today's matches is that there are basically no people watching at the studio.
But don't get me wrong, there were also some group matches in the BW era that few people watching at the studio. But with the BW big names in the group matches, the studio should be packed.
Today's matches are all between the biggest names in SC2, but still very few people are there. Worry about KESPA. Mr. Chae has shown he can pack the studio and get thousands of people to show up for GSL finals. If these groups were in the GSL, the place would be packed. I would blame it more on KESPA's marketing of SC2 and how their fan base is mainly Brood War fans. the GOM studio is like 1/10 the size of the OGN studio lol well the last few gsl finals have been situated in some massive arena that i'd say sit 5k+ people and its been pretty much jam packed every time
i hope the OSL finals are similarly packed!
On July 17 2012 07:57 larse wrote:
Question.
Why these matches are not on the e-sports TV youtube? Since OSL group stages are all on that channel, this non-Kespa group stage should also be on it.
(I know they are on twitch)
i think since twitch had it, they didn't bother with esportstv since so few would watch that compared to the twitch stream :D
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I definitely feel there was an unfortunate conflict for ByuN trying to hide builds from GSL Ro4.
DRG plays ZvP pretty much the same every tournament, so he had less to fear, but terran is a more build oriented race and protoss can easily metagame certain builds if they are figured out.
Also people should be glad the esportstv didnt have vods, as those have been low quality. The HD stream vods they have on twitch are great.
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On July 17 2012 13:10 oOOoOphidian wrote:
I definitely feel there was an unfortunate conflict for ByuN trying to hide builds from GSL Ro4.
DRG plays ZvP pretty much the same every tournament, so he had less to fear, but terran is a more build oriented race and protoss can easily metagame certain builds if they are figured out.
Also people should be glad the esportstv didnt have vods, as those have been low quality. The HD stream vods they have on twitch are great.
I am not sure about hiding builds. If Byun played totally standard bio with pressure when Medivacs comes out into MMMVG, then maybe. But he chose an one base all-in, I think he just wanted to gamble.
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On July 17 2012 07:08 aRyuujin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 17 2012 05:30 Fionn wrote:On July 17 2012 03:34 larse wrote:
The worst thing about today's matches is that there are basically no people watching at the studio.
But don't get me wrong, there were also some group matches in the BW era that few people watching at the studio. But with the BW big names in the group matches, the studio should be packed.
Today's matches are all between the biggest names in SC2, but still very few people are there. Worry about KESPA. Mr. Chae has shown he can pack the studio and get thousands of people to show up for GSL finals. If these groups were in the GSL, the place would be packed. I would blame it more on KESPA's marketing of SC2 and how their fan base is mainly Brood War fans. Koreans seem to be fans of players more so than the game. If you had Flash, Fantasy, Bisu and Jaedong playing Sc2 the place would be packed. Perhaps when the GOM players destroy the Kespa players in this OSL the Korean Kespa fans will warm to guys like Mvp and DRG more. or they'll dislike the game even more. Watching MVP taking the first code S kind of disappointed me, because the only thing I remembered him for before SC2 was beating BaBy and losing to flash in some MSL (Bigfile or Hana Daetoo?). It felt like wow, this scrub can be so good? WTF is wrong with the game?
None of the real pro's have switched yet. A years time and we won't be talking about half the players currently winning tournaments.
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On July 17 2012 13:28 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 13:10 oOOoOphidian wrote:
I definitely feel there was an unfortunate conflict for ByuN trying to hide builds from GSL Ro4.
DRG plays ZvP pretty much the same every tournament, so he had less to fear, but terran is a more build oriented race and protoss can easily metagame certain builds if they are figured out.
Also people should be glad the esportstv didnt have vods, as those have been low quality. The HD stream vods they have on twitch are great. I am not sure about hiding builds. If Byun played totally standard bio with pressure when Medivacs comes out into MMMVG, then maybe. But he chose an one base all-in, I think he just wanted to gamble.
yup, it's a gamble, but anyone can do a 1-1-1 with very similar builds and it's fairly easy to pull off and has a decent winrate? standard mmmvg still has timings for the tech switches and timings for attacks for seed to analyse
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I was pretty sure Byun wouldn't be able to make it through and I was right. Also very happy that Oz has beaten Mvp to place first. San is a bit of a suprise though but it seems he really likes OSL ! Hope he keeps on doing well like this !
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Hello, I haven't followed the SC2 scene in a while. Sorry for my ignorance, but is this OSL tournament run by Kespa, the people who ran/run the Brood War stuff? Also, is this the first Kespa run event in SC2 so far? Thanks for any answers :D
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I caught the VODs and the games were OK-ish. Symbol proves me that he's been riding the zerg patch. He should've lost to Byun on Antiga.
Wish Byun could have advanced along with DRG and San. I have been a fan of all 3 of them.
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On July 17 2012 16:45 Ocedic wrote:
Hello, I haven't followed the SC2 scene in a while. Sorry for my ignorance, but is this OSL tournament run by Kespa, the people who ran/run the Brood War stuff? Also, is this the first Kespa run event in SC2 so far? Thanks for any answers :D
yes and yes!
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On July 17 2012 22:21 usethis2 wrote:
I caught the VODs and the games were OK-ish. Symbol proves me that he's been riding the zerg patch. He should've lost to Byun on Antiga.
Wish Byun could have advanced along with DRG and San. I have been a fan of all 3 of them.
...? Come on now, that's definitely unfair. Symbol has been playing well, his GSL games show that. He didn't really deserve to win that particular game, but his recent success wasn't just "riding the Zerg patch," he's legitimately good.
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I've been away from the scene only for a couple weeks and people are talking about BC/Raven deathball in TvZ? Can someone link to a recent VOD of such games? Out of curiosity.
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On July 17 2012 22:24 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 16:45 Ocedic wrote:
Hello, I haven't followed the SC2 scene in a while. Sorry for my ignorance, but is this OSL tournament run by Kespa, the people who ran/run the Brood War stuff? Also, is this the first Kespa run event in SC2 so far? Thanks for any answers :D yes and yes!
so OSL IS part of KeSPA
as stated here also.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/KeSPA
Why are these suckers trying to persuade me that it's not?
On July 14 2012 08:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 04:54 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I heard it's confirmed no English stream.
Which is terrible.
All that talk about trying to globalize esports is just KeSPA talking out of their ass, it seems. Meh, korean casters are far better to listen to even if I don't understand them. Also your comment on kespa is irrelevant OGN=/=kespa
On July 14 2012 10:26 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 04:54 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I heard it's confirmed no English stream.
Which is terrible.
All that talk about trying to globalize esports is just KeSPA talking out of their ass, it seems. What does this have to do with kespa? As you said yourself I guess, think before you post something stupid.
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On August 04 2012 08:00 monkybone wrote:
Does anyone know when the finals will be held? And will there be an english stream with OGN, or maybe with some separate caster?
finals are a looong time away haha. i believe doa will be casting!
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