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On March 03 2012 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 11:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
The only thing I don't like about BC is that he's been inactive as hell, but as he's explained that and as I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game, I think it's understandable he has no motivation to post. GOD QUIT SAYING SCUMMY THINGS Saying shit like "I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game" is scummy as fuck bugs. Like, why? Why do you think it's okay to sign up for a game only to lose interest when people herp and derp around? THAT'S A FUCKING GIVEN IN THIS GAME! The community is growing, meaning we have a lot of new players who don't know what is and isn't indicative of alignment, and saying something like this only serves to breed apathy among the newer players, MAKING THE PROBLEM EVEN WORSE, NOT BETTER. Apathy is NOT OKAY guys! Scum are NOT just going to tell us who they are, we have to KEEP TRYING NO MATTER HOW HOPELESS. Or give up. Does anyone just want to GIVE the game to scum? I don't. /rant Thanks for your thoughts bugs. I'm sure they'll be further illuminating come dawn.
Why do players expect players to invest time into a game when everyone else is herp derping? There is no logical reason a person would put their personal time into a game where people don't give a shit at all and spend all their time either purposely or not purposely pissing people off and ruining the fun of the game. Why would anyone invest their time and effort and attempt to do something that no one gives a shit about? Near no one, its fighting an uphill battle that near no one would want to deal with it. This game also included invites to respected vet players as well as respected newbies. Everyone was expected to play well and I only joined as palmar said this would be different from near every game where people act like retards and make the game unenjoyable. It so far has not been and has had worse overall play than in AC where i facepalmed as a host at both town and mafia near consistently. Players opting to just not play a game that no one cares about anyway is clearly logical and even if you say it continues the problem you mention in a game that had heavy invites with very little people let to sign up means players should not be herp derping period as that continues apathy far more than players just opting to say fuck it and do other things.
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On March 03 2012 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 11:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
The only thing I don't like about BC is that he's been inactive as hell, but as he's explained that and as I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game, I think it's understandable he has no motivation to post. GOD QUIT SAYING SCUMMY THINGS Saying shit like "I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game" is scummy as fuck bugs. Like, why? Why do you think it's okay to sign up for a game only to lose interest when people herp and derp around? THAT'S A FUCKING GIVEN IN THIS GAME! The community is growing, meaning we have a lot of new players who don't know what is and isn't indicative of alignment, and saying something like this only serves to breed apathy among the newer players, MAKING THE PROBLEM EVEN WORSE, NOT BETTER. Apathy is NOT OKAY guys! Scum are NOT just going to tell us who they are, we have to KEEP TRYING NO MATTER HOW HOPELESS. Or give up. Does anyone just want to GIVE the game to scum? I don't. /rant Thanks for your thoughts bugs. I'm sure they'll be further illuminating come dawn.
How is that scummy? Why do you think I've trolled?
You've read Toad's posts. He has like a 70% chance of being town right now and he's said some of the weirdest things, things that just make me cringe and go wtf. You have no idea how demoralizing it is to make a case on someone and then later see something that makes them look town; it just tells you that you're pursuing someone who is legitimately playing so badly that they're helping the other team more than they're helping you.
That's what I feel every time I go back and reread prpl's, Dirkzor's, and BlazingHand's posts.
Look at Cwave/risknuke, Toad, Jitsu, layabout, Tyrran. At least two of them are town but none of them have actually played like town. Potentially 3 are town (if you or BC is scum).
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On March 03 2012 11:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 03 2012 11:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
The only thing I don't like about BC is that he's been inactive as hell, but as he's explained that and as I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game, I think it's understandable he has no motivation to post. GOD QUIT SAYING SCUMMY THINGS Saying shit like "I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game" is scummy as fuck bugs. Like, why? Why do you think it's okay to sign up for a game only to lose interest when people herp and derp around? THAT'S A FUCKING GIVEN IN THIS GAME! The community is growing, meaning we have a lot of new players who don't know what is and isn't indicative of alignment, and saying something like this only serves to breed apathy among the newer players, MAKING THE PROBLEM EVEN WORSE, NOT BETTER. Apathy is NOT OKAY guys! Scum are NOT just going to tell us who they are, we have to KEEP TRYING NO MATTER HOW HOPELESS. Or give up. Does anyone just want to GIVE the game to scum? I don't. /rant Thanks for your thoughts bugs. I'm sure they'll be further illuminating come dawn. Why do players expect players to invest time into a game when everyone else is herp derping? There is no logical reason a person would put their personal time into a game where people don't give a shit at all and spend all their time either purposely or not purposely pissing people off and ruining the fun of the game. Why would anyone invest their time and effort and attempt to do something that no one gives a shit about? Near no one, its fighting an uphill battle that near no one would want to deal with it. This game also included invites to respected vet players as well as respected newbies. Everyone was expected to play well and I only joined as palmar said this would be different from near every game where people act like retards and make the game unenjoyable. It so far has not been and has had worse overall play than in AC where i facepalmed as a host at both town and mafia near consistently. Players opting to just not play a game that no one cares about anyway is clearly logical and even if you say it continues the problem you mention in a game that had heavy invites with very little people let to sign up means players should not be herp derping period as that continues apathy far more than players just opting to say fuck it and do other things.
Because you signed up to play BC. I'm sorry the standard of play hasn't been to your liking. Seriously, I'm sorry we've disappointed you on the whole. But that does NOT excuse apathy. Seriously, it doesn't. Get replaced if you can't take the idiocy. Even if it results in a ban, you sound like that doesn't even matter to you. I'd rather have someone in here actually trying than someone in here constantly bitching about how stupid everyone is and how they shouldn't have signed up in the first place.
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Also, I'm not widely regarded as horrible am I? Dramatic I'd believe...but horrible?
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kitaman27
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lol don't let yourself get worked up VE, they are clutching at straws.
BC comes to make his largest post of the thread, explaining how I'm scum because I just led the lynch against the only red flip the entire game. Funny out of all the players who voted today, both BC and bugs decide I'm the one coming out looking the worst. RoL was on his scum list the entire game and toad he never commented on, yet when it came down to voting, he was on the wrong side, even after my green check.
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On March 03 2012 12:11 kitaman27 wrote:
lol don't let yourself get worked up VE, they are clutching at straws.
BC comes to make his largest post of the thread, explaining how I'm scum because I just led the lynch against the only red flip the entire game. Funny out of all the players who voted today, both BC and bugs decide I'm the one coming out looking the worst. RoL was on his scum list the entire game and toad he never commented on, yet when it came down to voting, he was on the wrong side, even after my green check.
I didn't "decide" anything, you're the one who said there was a poisoner before a poisoner flipped.
You're also the one who fished for "other protective roles" after I claimed weak doctor to you (and you claimed coward)
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I don't truly understand why everyone is dogging on me specifically as to not playing like town. It's actually pretty strange for me, and kind of frustrating, but I guess that is better discussed in post-game.
As for right now, it's time to hunt some maf.
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BUDDY THIS KITAMAN I CAN'T TRUST ANYONE!!!
Nah, I'm not worked up. Just wanted to get that out of my system before the game ended. In spite of hitting red, with scum KP being uncertain and the looming threat of a third party, we still might lose this before the night is over. Even if we've nailed the final scum.
Just venting, nothing to see here.
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kitaman27
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On March 03 2012 12:13 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 12:11 kitaman27 wrote:
lol don't let yourself get worked up VE, they are clutching at straws.
BC comes to make his largest post of the thread, explaining how I'm scum because I just led the lynch against the only red flip the entire game. Funny out of all the players who voted today, both BC and bugs decide I'm the one coming out looking the worst. RoL was on his scum list the entire game and toad he never commented on, yet when it came down to voting, he was on the wrong side, even after my green check. I didn't "decide" anything, you're the one who said there was a poisoner before a poisoner flipped.
Option A:
Kita saw that there were no hits on night one and figured there might be a poisoner.
Option B:
Kita knew his scumbuddy RoL just poisoned someone so he decided to tip off town to what they had in store.
Hey bugs, remember in the quicktopic how you mentioned there was 1 kp on night one and 2 kp on night two? When I asked you what you meant, you said you didn't realize nobody died night one.
Guess what, you're the one that has knowledge of the poisoner, not me 
Wait a minute, did you trick me into responding again? Sneaky
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On March 03 2012 12:20 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 12:13 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 03 2012 12:11 kitaman27 wrote:
lol don't let yourself get worked up VE, they are clutching at straws.
BC comes to make his largest post of the thread, explaining how I'm scum because I just led the lynch against the only red flip the entire game. Funny out of all the players who voted today, both BC and bugs decide I'm the one coming out looking the worst. RoL was on his scum list the entire game and toad he never commented on, yet when it came down to voting, he was on the wrong side, even after my green check. I didn't "decide" anything, you're the one who said there was a poisoner before a poisoner flipped. Option A: Kita saw that there were no hits on night one and figured there might be a poisoner. Option B: Kita knew his scumbuddy RoL just poisoned someone so he decided to tip off town to what they had in store. Hey bugs, remember in the quicktopic how you mentioned there was 1 kp on night one and 2 kp on night two? When I asked you what you meant, you said you didn't realize nobody died night one.
Guess what, you're the one that has knowledge of the poisoner, not me Wait a minute, did you trick me into responding again? Sneaky
you saw there were no hits on n1 after being given a healing potion...
right, so you go and assume there's a poisoner instead of assuming...I dunno, that you took a hit?
also, wtf at the bolded?
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kitaman27
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On March 03 2012 12:26 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 12:20 kitaman27 wrote:On March 03 2012 12:13 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 03 2012 12:11 kitaman27 wrote:
lol don't let yourself get worked up VE, they are clutching at straws.
BC comes to make his largest post of the thread, explaining how I'm scum because I just led the lynch against the only red flip the entire game. Funny out of all the players who voted today, both BC and bugs decide I'm the one coming out looking the worst. RoL was on his scum list the entire game and toad he never commented on, yet when it came down to voting, he was on the wrong side, even after my green check. I didn't "decide" anything, you're the one who said there was a poisoner before a poisoner flipped. Option A: Kita saw that there were no hits on night one and figured there might be a poisoner. Option B: Kita knew his scumbuddy RoL just poisoned someone so he decided to tip off town to what they had in store. Hey bugs, remember in the quicktopic how you mentioned there was 1 kp on night one and 2 kp on night two? When I asked you what you meant, you said you didn't realize nobody died night one.
Guess what, you're the one that has knowledge of the poisoner, not me Wait a minute, did you trick me into responding again? Sneaky you saw there were no hits on n1 after being given a healing potion... right, so you go and assume there's a poisoner instead of assuming...I dunno, that you took a hit?
Nope, if you read the post that I quoted, I said that the most likely scenario is that the mafia missed their hits. But again, I'm arguing with a scum -_-
On March 03 2012 12:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
also, wtf at the bolded?
you know exactly what I'm talking about.
By the way, you know that cryptogram I posted when I informed you that toad was town?
If you unscramble it, it reads "lolz bugs isnt voting RoL" :p
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On March 03 2012 12:34 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 12:26 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 03 2012 12:20 kitaman27 wrote:On March 03 2012 12:13 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 03 2012 12:11 kitaman27 wrote:
lol don't let yourself get worked up VE, they are clutching at straws.
BC comes to make his largest post of the thread, explaining how I'm scum because I just led the lynch against the only red flip the entire game. Funny out of all the players who voted today, both BC and bugs decide I'm the one coming out looking the worst. RoL was on his scum list the entire game and toad he never commented on, yet when it came down to voting, he was on the wrong side, even after my green check. I didn't "decide" anything, you're the one who said there was a poisoner before a poisoner flipped. Option A: Kita saw that there were no hits on night one and figured there might be a poisoner. Option B: Kita knew his scumbuddy RoL just poisoned someone so he decided to tip off town to what they had in store. Hey bugs, remember in the quicktopic how you mentioned there was 1 kp on night one and 2 kp on night two? When I asked you what you meant, you said you didn't realize nobody died night one.
Guess what, you're the one that has knowledge of the poisoner, not me Wait a minute, did you trick me into responding again? Sneaky you saw there were no hits on n1 after being given a healing potion... right, so you go and assume there's a poisoner instead of assuming...I dunno, that you took a hit? Nope, if you read the post that I quoted, I said that the most likely scenario is that the mafia missed their hits. But again, I'm arguing with a scum -_- you know exactly what I'm talking about. By the way, you know that cryptogram I posted when I informed you that toad was town? If you unscramble it, it reads "lolz bugs isnt voting RoL" :p
oh kita you troll, telling me third parties can't be roleblocked
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just fyi the wink face was totally unnecessary
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kitaman27
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On March 03 2012 12:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
just fyi the wink face was totally unnecessary
It was revenge for the liquidbet. :D
I missed CJ/Woongjin and KT/STX matches though so I'm probably going to drop behind
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On March 03 2012 12:43 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 12:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
just fyi the wink face was totally unnecessary It was revenge for the liquidbet. :D I missed CJ/Woongjin and KT/STX matches though so I'm probably going to drop behind
<3
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On March 03 2012 11:55 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 11:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On March 03 2012 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 03 2012 11:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
The only thing I don't like about BC is that he's been inactive as hell, but as he's explained that and as I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game, I think it's understandable he has no motivation to post. GOD QUIT SAYING SCUMMY THINGS Saying shit like "I see no reason for anyone to actually want to play this game" is scummy as fuck bugs. Like, why? Why do you think it's okay to sign up for a game only to lose interest when people herp and derp around? THAT'S A FUCKING GIVEN IN THIS GAME! The community is growing, meaning we have a lot of new players who don't know what is and isn't indicative of alignment, and saying something like this only serves to breed apathy among the newer players, MAKING THE PROBLEM EVEN WORSE, NOT BETTER. Apathy is NOT OKAY guys! Scum are NOT just going to tell us who they are, we have to KEEP TRYING NO MATTER HOW HOPELESS. Or give up. Does anyone just want to GIVE the game to scum? I don't. /rant Thanks for your thoughts bugs. I'm sure they'll be further illuminating come dawn. Why do players expect players to invest time into a game when everyone else is herp derping? There is no logical reason a person would put their personal time into a game where people don't give a shit at all and spend all their time either purposely or not purposely pissing people off and ruining the fun of the game. Why would anyone invest their time and effort and attempt to do something that no one gives a shit about? Near no one, its fighting an uphill battle that near no one would want to deal with it. This game also included invites to respected vet players as well as respected newbies. Everyone was expected to play well and I only joined as palmar said this would be different from near every game where people act like retards and make the game unenjoyable. It so far has not been and has had worse overall play than in AC where i facepalmed as a host at both town and mafia near consistently. Players opting to just not play a game that no one cares about anyway is clearly logical and even if you say it continues the problem you mention in a game that had heavy invites with very little people let to sign up means players should not be herp derping period as that continues apathy far more than players just opting to say fuck it and do other things. Because you signed up to play BC. I'm sorry the standard of play hasn't been to your liking. Seriously, I'm sorry we've disappointed you on the whole. But that does NOT excuse apathy. Seriously, it doesn't. Get replaced if you can't take the idiocy. Even if it results in a ban, you sound like that doesn't even matter to you. I'd rather have someone in here actually trying than someone in here constantly bitching about how stupid everyone is and how they shouldn't have signed up in the first place.
Apathy isn't a valid replacement reason nor is what I feel as bad play or a bunch of trolls reason either. Essentially once the bad play began I had no choice but to stay. Do you understand what I mean? Out of how many people in this game how many have you read posts from and gone "wow that guy is being logical and intelligent, he might be wrong but at least hes trying" I have seen that from only a few people this game. In the case of yourself that was not what I was expecting and was very surprised and very happy to see. However players who (much like myself) had the expectations of far more did near nothing but troll or basically say fuck this game im out.
The only game I have ever seriously tried as town in this atmosphere was not fun to play. It was not fun for me, it was not fun for mafia, it was not fun for anyone else in the town. Why would I push myself to play a game to the level required to attempt to counterbalance the wtfness of a game when all it might net me in the end is a win in a game that I no longer enjoyed nor anyone else did purely because I wanted to win. If there is no joy in doing so there is no point in actually doing it.
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On March 03 2012 12:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Also, I'm not widely regarded as horrible am I? Dramatic I'd believe...but horrible?
You're reads much like drH's are known to be suspect based on how easily you guys tend to have your opinions swayed by others.
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On March 03 2012 12:11 kitaman27 wrote:
lol don't let yourself get worked up VE, they are clutching at straws.
BC comes to make his largest post of the thread, explaining how I'm scum because I just led the lynch against the only red flip the entire game. Funny out of all the players who voted today, both BC and bugs decide I'm the one coming out looking the worst. RoL was on his scum list the entire game and toad he never commented on, yet when it came down to voting, he was on the wrong side, even after my green check.
So? I was one of the first people in the game to ever add pressure to him thus putting him in the spotlight ultimately that got him lynched. This does in no way confirm my alignment. Pushing a lynch on a player behaving as RoL was does not make you town either. You have a super pro town role that based on actions in thread was no used in said fashion, and you have, much like myself, cared near 0 for the outcome of this game overall. Do either of these things make you scum? Not necessarily however they don't make you town either.
I am saying that the timing of your claim + the overall lack of townlike use of it + being so inactive are things that do make you suspect. You essentially claimed a role to divert a lynch to your selection with no actual proof aside from one post that could mean a breadcrumb to your role or not. You play this game has been less than stellar and overall based on your attitude the sudden return to thread and become a near confirmed townie in 1 day is staggering. Look at yourself in the mirror based on all you have done and realize why I would suspect you at all. I am no outright saying "kita is scum" I am however saying the possibility is there given your play up till this day. Do you not think that is basically logical way to look at it?
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as a note I am heading to bed now as I have to be up for work in 5.5 hours. I will be gone from 6am est - early to mid afternoon and should be around then barring unforseen circumstances. I will attempt to make my thoughts clear given the situation we are in and depending on how the game continues will determine how much effort i put in.
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kitaman27
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On March 03 2012 13:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You have a super pro town role that based on actions in thread was no used in said fashion, and you have, much like myself, cared near 0 for the outcome of this game overall. Do either of these things make you scum? Not necessarily however they don't make you town either.
Lets not make baseless assumptions about how much effort I've put into the game.
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