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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Tyrran submits a team that isn't what layabout announces. Problem solved. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
since i cannot mason myself and i would never mason somebody that is confirmed scum to me there where about 21 combinations that either he or i could pick. that he posted that before i hit post is ridiculous. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
WBG said risk.nuke (aka Cwave nowadays) looks really bad and basicly is a confirmed mafia due to the replacement. Probably suggesting something along the lines "Palmar said there are no replacement yet he got replaced. Has to be a mafia because 1/4 of the team dead is pretty bad". So that already made cwave looking pretty good considering I thought wbg is mafia, now that we got a green check on him it's making wbg look pretty bad. Like all game, this was supposed to be another easy lynch he was linging up to save RoL with a counter-wagon. Sure again bad logic, or at least it proves very little because MAYBE wbg really would think like that as townie (although I doubt it consider he kept telling me I'm stupid for bringing those wifom arguments all the time and he then does one like that himself) but it's just another peace of the puzzle that fits pretty nicely. | ||
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
I like how it took you 24 hours to point out that you were counter-claimed and you have failed to comment on the aftermath of yesterday's lynch. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
if you're actually what you say you are why wouldn't you check syllo n1? Why not syllo n2? Why not me? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On March 04 2012 06:59 kitaman27 wrote: If I die, don't throw things away. Don't fall for an appeal to emotion or fear mongering. I wouldn't be surprised if the scum team comes up with some sort of convenient role claim tomorrow to somehow prove they are town or prove that another player must be scum. Even if the scum team were to use a kp on themselves, I probably wouldn't buy it. Here are the facts: bugs claimed to be a weak doctor protecting me. As he lived, he would know 100% that I am town. I roleclaimed to him in the thread informing that toad was green. In response, he refused to move his vote despite the role claim. He tried to argue that the player he admitted couldn't be scum was lying to him. Upon RoL's flip, he comes up with some conspiracy story how he was roleblocked and came to the conclusion that I must be scum, not the people who were refusing to kill RoL. He claims to be a weak doctor, but never breadcrumbs his role. Knowing that he could flip weak doctor, he tells us to kill DrH upon death, not his target syllo. He scum slipped in the quicktopic, revealing that mafia only had 1 kp on night one. He clearly states that he thinks RoL is scum, yet refuses to vote for him even after the green check. BC has been pushing mislynch after mislynch jumping on bandwagons for really weak reasons. After saying he would be willing to vote RoL yesterday, he refuses at LYLO. Look at the day one events how all his scumbuddies had to vote together to save him. That is why red's flip was masked. I expect he will put more effort into the game now to defend himself, than to actually hunt for scum the previous 4 days. Save Layabout for last. Remember that the qt partners can be guessed or that a mafia could pass along the correct pairing. I have a green check on cwave. He is confirmed town. You do realize I have yet to push a lynch? The only one you could say I pushed was prpl as I was the first person to vote for him, however I never "pushed" his lynch as in I was not the one heavily trying to get him lynched. I did not push the redff lynch, although I did join it as his play was terrible. I was on the bh lynch and again because he screamed scum. I however have not orchestrated these lynches, nor was I pushing mislynch after mislynch. You are using the wrong choice of words. I was on mislynches, you were on 1 yourself, claimed your #1 scum read in the thread was someone you made a case on then didn't vote for. (prpl). As for actually scum hunting? You have yet to scum hunt correctly as RoL is someone no single player can take credit of. How many people called him out for his behaviour? Any mafia would want him dead as he would be dead weight at this point in time, and any town would want him dead. You make some comment about wbg never crumbing his role, guess what, you "crumbed" once and then opted to never do so thereafter. You also only released your check on a player who had already died and flipped green which is far to convenient. As for your argument upon if i was scum and it required my entire team to save me, what would it matter if mafia could hide a flip? Town would be in the same place day 1 as my alignment would never have been revealed. However, the case could have been exactly as some of us analyzed where redff was actually mafia and mafia chose to hide his flip to keep town confused. I am town so it would make sense to cover my flip as well to keep town guessing. You cannot make an alignment based decision around the case of "well the only reason x was covered was to keep x alive" That is wifom. Why do you make such flimsy arguments against me? Your behaviour this game is as bad as mine is. I am not saying "everyone believe me I am town" because honestly based on my play there is not reason to unless I step it up, however you are guilty of the same shit if not worse. Hell, you were so certain based on your voting pattern that RoL was scum but you never once confirmed this with your power, you believe myself to be mafia but for all you have claimed in thread you have not checked me. It stands to reason using very simple logic that you would be (if town) willing to trade yourself to confirm one of the more well respected players as either red or town. If you confirmed someone in thread as town mafia is then forced into a situation in how to deal with the claims / confirmation. If you ever flipped you're flip would be all the proof required. Instead you have claimed a check on jackal, toad, and cwave. Why would anyone with the power to take out one of the best mafia players / confirm a solid town player opt to choose for a player who is lurking like cwave or acting erratically like toad? Why is it that if you were so sure of you're own reads that you didn't confirm a new player last night or get a mafia killed for sure? Also with the fact that cwave and jitsu at this moment in time don't have a pm from palmar saying they are mason'd then it seems there is most likely a roleblocker in this game. Yet you discount that you could have ever been roleblocked and thus all your checks are 100% accurate. You say that wbg is scummy since he used his power on ve when he could have died and then mafia would have killed bugs + used 2kp? How do you know for a fact they have 2 kp? I saw 0 deaths last night, 0 deaths night 1, 2 night 2, and 1 night 3. How do you know their full kp if no one else does? You talk about the poisoner before the poisoner flipped, you talked about a roleblocker before it was essentially outted in thread (well before), you then discount that roleblocker would ever target you. You then use your role in a very wtf manner given how good it is. You display far more knowledge than you should in this setup, you talk about roles that were not confirmed and talk in absolutes in regards to mafia kp and the like yet ignore the lack of kills to support your claims. Based on all this the only conclusion I can come to is that you are not town. If you can somehow refute this and change my mind then I will be likely to believe you but as things stand now I cannot. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On March 04 2012 09:05 Toadesstern wrote: looking for mafia in this situation (6v4 yesterday) would be stupid if what kita says is to be true. Better claim 10 secs before deadline who you checked and search for townies. Not that it's going to be something big either because he can always be RB'ed but I doubt we can afford kita to die if he really is town right now. whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat so basically you're saying, if he's town, since the only way to confirm his checks is for him to die, you don't want him to die. the fuck are you on dude? or you're just scum. Like wtf? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 04 2012 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote: kita, please answer the question you never answered in the QT: if you're actually what you say you are why wouldn't you check syllo n1? Why not syllo n2? Why not me? Because I chose to check jackal instead. On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You do realize I have yet to push a lynch? You do realize that isn't something that makes you pro-town right? It's day five and you have yet to push a lynch. Even in this post, you are more interested in defending yourself than suggesting who we should target moving forward. On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You have yet to scum hunt correctly as RoL is someone no single player can take credit of. How many people called him out for his behaviour? Any mafia would want him dead as he would be dead weight at this point in time, and any town would want him dead. Then why were you and bugs so dedicated to keep him alive? If everyone wanted him dead, why did you refuse to vote for him? Instead, you're voting for a player who you have never commented over the player you indicated you found as scum. On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You make some comment about wbg never crumbing his role, guess what, you "crumbed" once and then opted to never do so thereafter. You also only released your check on a player who had already died and flipped green which is far to convenient. I released my check before he died. It was only safe once to crumb because from then on I was open to roleblock. Yes, I could have been roleblocked on day one, but the risk/reward made it worth it. I've revealed my green check on cwave last night. On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your behaviour this game is as bad as mine is. I am not saying "everyone believe me I am town" because honestly based on my play there is not reason to unless I step it up, however you are guilty of the same shit if not worse. lol On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Hell, you were so certain based on your voting pattern that RoL was scum but you never once confirmed this with your power, you believe myself to be mafia but for all you have claimed in thread you have not checked me. Checking RoL would have resulted in my death. There is little reason for me to sacrifice myself, when I can get him lynched during the day. Why would I check a scum suspect? I am looking to confirm town players, not kill myself off. I don't need to check you to confirm you as mafia. On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why would anyone with the power to take out one of the best mafia players / confirm a solid town player opt to choose for a player who is lurking like cwave or acting erratically like toad? Why is it that if you were so sure of you're own reads that you didn't confirm a new player last night or get a mafia killed for sure? That's not a serious question right? If I checked a player and died it would have been 3v3 if hits went through. You would have liked that, wouldn't you. On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also with the fact that cwave and jitsu at this moment in time don't have a pm from palmar saying they are mason'd then it seems there is most likely a roleblocker in this game. Yet you discount that you could have ever been roleblocked and thus all your checks are 100% accurate. It's really annoying to have to deal with confirmed townies isn't it. Your scumbuddy bugs is saying that he got roleblocked when protecting me as a weak doctor. Can't have it both ways. On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You say that wbg is scummy since he used his power on ve when he could have died and then mafia would have killed bugs + used 2kp? How do you know for a fact they have 2 kp? I saw 0 deaths last night, 0 deaths night 1, 2 night 2, and 1 night 3. How do you know their full kp if no one else does? Lets not play dumb. Are you saying you can't look at the setup and say scum has at least 1kp + RoL's poison from last night? On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You talk about the poisoner before the poisoner flipped, you talked about a roleblocker before it was essentially outted in thread (well before), you then discount that roleblocker would ever target you. You then use your role in a very wtf manner given how good it is. Yep confirming the player that was about to get lynched at lylo is an extremely wtf manner of use. On March 04 2012 08:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: If you can somehow refute this and change my mind then I will be likely to believe you but as things stand now I cannot. I don't need to refuse this. My actions and yours already have. The biggest question left to town today is if bugs or BC has the better mafia role to get rid of. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 04 2012 09:08 wherebugsgo wrote: whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat so basically you're saying, if he's town, since the only way to confirm his checks is for him to die, you don't want him to die. the fuck are you on dude? or you're just scum. Like wtf? you do realize that it took us everything we had yesterday to stop you from lynching me? I am happy the way we are right now and don't want to be in another "town has to get 100% of their votes right" situation. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 04 2012 10:39 Toadesstern wrote: I'd say bugs tbh but I really don't want to ruin another game :p You can't lose when both choices are correct | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 04 2012 12:29 kitaman27 wrote: although it might be more likely that BC is the roleblocker if bugs is trying so hard to prove he is the scum medic yeah but I'd say if one of those 3 is to be wrong it's BC. As mentioned, Laya and bugs are a 99% call for me right now, BC is more like 90% :p | ||
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