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On March 03 2012 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote:At least we don't have to worry about Toad misfiring tonight, AMIRITE?  I kid, I kid...you're still a bro Toad.
That's not going to happen :p
I still think it is the very same Situation we were in in TL Mafia XLVIII (@VE and obs-Jackal). They all-ined yesterday like we all-ined to defend Annul the last day. Just that we're awesome and able to pulling that off and WBG & friends are not.
The resemblances are terrifying. Of course terrifying for Mafia now that everything is figured out.
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And basicly if this really was a mafia masterplan to bus RoL and what wbg said is right we still just lost the game and nothing has changed yesterday.
If there REALLY were 2 townies stupid enough to vote me yesterday we can't win this anyways. So it's either all 6 townies voted RoL or we've got a bunch of morons who voted me yesterday and people like Kita/VE/Jitsu are playing the safe option, bussing their teammember while knowing that there's a bunch of people who voted wrong and therefore are an easy mislynch while getting massively towncred.
I still think bugs looks awful even without what happened yesterday. Look at his filter and especially pay attention to what he said to others about other people. Eg. Talking about VE to me. Talking about how Risk has to be mafia given that replacement. Talking about how RoL is a confirmed mafia in his opinion but people like BH, prpl and myself are even more confirmed. That guy is just plain mafia. Nothing to add here.
I also highly doubt that jitsu would have the balls to fake counterclaim Layabout, especially given that layabout seems to have given up and hasn't even responded in a "HEY NO WAY; I AM THE TOWN OPERATOR"-fashion. But surly wbg will come in here and tell everyone that that's just wifom. And I will tell you that the term wifom is the cheapest, and most stupid defense there is. Yes it may be possible and that's essentially the reason for this very post but what are the odds or that? Sure it could be Jitsu fake-CC-ing but it sounds WAY more reasonable/plausible/likely to me that he just IS the one telling the truth.
Sure VE could maybe be a mafia who went for towncred last second unvoting me but I somehow think he would do what he did as a townie given how much I attacked him. I'd say he'd be pretty pissed and raging about me if he's a townie and I was wrong about him. But then again, who's the one guy that is supposed to be wrong to make way for VE being mafia?
WBG and Laya desperatly need to die. BC as well.
Honestly I'd say the chances are somewhat like 90% for mafiateam to be: WBG + Laya + BC
10% for mafiateam to be WBG + Laya + someone else who's playing according to a mafia masterplan (like VE, Jitsu, Kita)
The first explanation seems way more likely and I'd be happy to stick with it just for the odds. Furthermore I think that if it's the latter one town already/still lost imo. But sure I'll reread some filters tomorrow.
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On March 03 2012 20:58 Toadesstern wrote:
And basicly if this really was a mafia masterplan to bus RoL and what wbg said is right we still just lost the game and nothing has changed yesterday.
If there REALLY were 2 townies stupid enough to vote me yesterday we can't win this anyways. So it's either all 6 townies voted RoL or we've got a bunch of morons who voted me yesterday and people like Kita/VE/Jitsu are playing the safe option, bussing their teammember while knowing that there's a bunch of people who voted wrong and therefore are an easy mislynch while getting massively towncred.
I still think bugs looks awful even without what happened yesterday. Look at his filter and especially pay attention to what he said to others about other people. Eg. Talking about VE to me. Talking about how Risk has to be mafia given that replacement. Talking about how RoL is a confirmed mafia in his opinion but people like BH, prpl and myself are even more confirmed. That guy is just plain mafia. Nothing to add here.
I also highly doubt that jitsu would have the balls to fake counterclaim Layabout, especially given that layabout seems to have given up and hasn't even responded in a "HEY NO WAY; I AM THE TOWN OPERATOR"-fashion. But surly wbg will come in here and tell everyone that that's just wifom. And I will tell you that the term wifom is the cheapest, and most stupid defense there is. Yes it may be possible and that's essentially the reason for this very post but what are the odds or that? Sure it could be Jitsu fake-CC-ing but it sounds WAY more reasonable/plausible/likely to me that he just IS the one telling the truth.
Sure VE could maybe be a mafia who went for towncred last second unvoting me but I somehow think he would do what he did as a townie given how much I attacked him. I'd say he'd be pretty pissed and raging about me if he's a townie and I was wrong about him. But then again, who's the one guy that is supposed to be wrong to make way for VE being mafia?
WBG and Laya desperatly need to die. BC as well.
Honestly I'd say the chances are somewhat like 90% for mafiateam to be: WBG + Laya + BC
10% for mafiateam to be WBG + Laya + someone else who's playing according to a mafia masterplan (like VE, Jitsu, Kita)
The first explanation seems way more likely and I'd be happy to stick with it just for the odds. Furthermore I think that if it's the latter one town already/still lost imo. But sure I'll reread some filters tomorrow.
It was Tyrran.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
If I die, don't throw things away. Don't fall for an appeal to emotion or fear mongering. I wouldn't be surprised if the scum team comes up with some sort of convenient role claim tomorrow to somehow prove they are town or prove that another player must be scum. Even if the scum team were to use a kp on themselves, I probably wouldn't buy it.
Here are the facts:
bugs claimed to be a weak doctor protecting me. As he lived, he would know 100% that I am town. I roleclaimed to him in the thread informing that toad was green. In response, he refused to move his vote despite the role claim. He tried to argue that the player he admitted couldn't be scum was lying to him. Upon RoL's flip, he comes up with some conspiracy story how he was roleblocked and came to the conclusion that I must be scum, not the people who were refusing to kill RoL.
He claims to be a weak doctor, but never breadcrumbs his role. Knowing that he could flip weak doctor, he tells us to kill DrH upon death, not his target syllo. He scum slipped in the quicktopic, revealing that mafia only had 1 kp on night one. He clearly states that he thinks RoL is scum, yet refuses to vote for him even after the green check.
BC has been pushing mislynch after mislynch jumping on bandwagons for really weak reasons. After saying he would be willing to vote RoL yesterday, he refuses at LYLO. Look at the day one events how all his scumbuddies had to vote together to save him. That is why red's flip was masked. I expect he will put more effort into the game now to defend himself, than to actually hunt for scum the previous 4 days.
Save Layabout for last. Remember that the qt partners can be guessed or that a mafia could pass along the correct pairing.
I have a green check on cwave. He is confirmed town.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
I also didn't hide last night if the scum team somehow tries to use that as a reason for my death.
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Day 5![[image loading]](http://lissgallery.com/gallery/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Storm-Cloud-at-Dawn-40x60.jpg) You have 48 hours to vote for the lynch
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Interesting.
If the mafia that was send to kill one of us was roleblocked, will that stop the kill?
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Japan10647 Posts
I was either roleblocked or VE was shot.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
So at 6v3 as a weak doctor you decided to use your power knowing that if VE was scum, you would die and the two mafia kp would end the game with 3v3. You were so confident on your read (a person that you told me you thought was scum in the quicktopic) that you decided that submitting a medic action was worth risking the game?
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Japan10647 Posts
On March 04 2012 07:27 kitaman27 wrote:
So at 6v3 as a weak doctor you decided to use your power knowing that if VE was scum, you would die and the two mafia kp would end the game with 3v3. You were so confident on your read (a person that you told me you thought was scum in the quicktopic) that you decided that submitting a medic action was worth risking the game?
actually I wanted to die, because this game is driving me insane.
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so I guess we have a medic after all? Who dies first?
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On March 04 2012 07:34 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 07:27 kitaman27 wrote:
So at 6v3 as a weak doctor you decided to use your power knowing that if VE was scum, you would die and the two mafia kp would end the game with 3v3. You were so confident on your read (a person that you told me you thought was scum in the quicktopic) that you decided that submitting a medic action was worth risking the game? actually I wanted to die, because this game is driving me insane.
oh so you're now on RoLs level. Guess what happened to him after telling people he wants to die?
I am not referring to the fact that he straight up survived 3 days because I seriously hope town has learnt from this mistake.
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I masoned Cwave and Jitsu. I chose the player that had neutral alignement ,and that had few chances of being killed by scum.
I dont see why we should keep layabout for last. He has not even tried to defend himself yet. Look at his post claim : "I am town, vote with me". He openly admitted he was trying to influence the vote to save a scum. This alone should make him confirmed scum.
Killing a confirmed scum is always the best move. Lets kill him now and decide between WBG and kita tomorrow.
## vote Layabout.
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Japan10647 Posts
On March 04 2012 07:38 Toadesstern wrote:
so I guess we have a medic after all? Who dies first?
herp derp I am a doctor herp derp
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Last night i masoned Jitsu and cwave.
last night Tyrran did not because he is not the operator.
Tyrran is scum. This is confirmed to me.
##Vote Tyrran
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On March 04 2012 07:43 layabout wrote:
Last night i masoned Jitsu and cwave.
last night Tyrran did not because he is not the operator.
Tyrran is scum. This is confirmed to me.
##Vote Tyrran
funny move. I'd say we wait another night and let you announce the next one first. How do you think he knew about the 2 people masoned?
In the meantime WBG looks like a decent target.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 04 2012 07:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 07:43 layabout wrote:
Last night i masoned Jitsu and cwave.
last night Tyrran did not because he is not the operator.
Tyrran is scum. This is confirmed to me.
##Vote Tyrran funny move. I'd say we wait another night and let you announce the next one first. How do you think he knew about the 2 people masoned? In the meantime WBG looks like a decent target.
Exactly.
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Oh and NEXT time you guys announce who got masoned BEFORE the deadline...
Like 1 minute before the deadline. What you did proves nothing because if you really picked a mafia they could have told their mafiabuddie... However they can't do that before the deadline because Palmar probably won't send them the link before he makes the next night post...
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EPT
