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regading this
1st spoiler + explanation so if i post an entire quote and try to place it into context then "im being hard to read and scummy" and if i cut out parts not relevant to my point then im misrepresenting your post and being scummy? ...wow... I deliberately cut off the bit of wifom logic because it was totally fucking useless and was not relevant to the point i was making.
On December 09 2011 05:24 xtfftc wrote: Yes, albeit a short one that doesn't cover some bits. I feel uneasy about the way no one objects on lynching Jay. It feels like Day 1 all over again, which makes me wonder whether Jay might actually be town - even though mafia are probably just bussing him at this point. So my vote stays on EY to remind people that we have to catch the whole mafia team and not just one member of it.
your explanation for leaving your vote on eye215 makes no sense. feel free to ask your coaches if you don't believe me
sencond spoiler the above quote was in this post the above quote refered to this On December 09 2011 10:16 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote +
Here he even admits that Jay is more likely to be scum but his vote still remains on Ey215. . .
I stated my reasons for keeping my vote on EY. Your reasoning is pure WIFOM in this case. Jay was obviously going to be lynched hours before I posted the bit you quoted, so what could a townie do in this situation? Vote for Jay and be accused of sheeping after BH and bandwagonning (remember Tunkeg and his analysis of the Bbyte lynch?) Or vote for someone else and be accused of not voting for the obvious mafia.
i point out that grackaroni pointed out that you left your vote on eye and admitted that you thought jay was more likely to be scum than him (this have nothing to do with wifom logic)
i then refer to a long post of yours in which you wrote "You lynch your best read." AND "Town votes to lynch mafia." showing that you have acted in one way yet vocally opposed it in the thread and et you have not acknowledged or explained this
3 spoiler you wrote
layabout posted "you have a strong case on a player but you would rather not post it and you would rather vote for someone other than your best read? seriously?" Yet I never voted for Adam and the post layabout quoted was me saying that I don't hjave a good case on Adam.
cough its bolded and underlined that you have a stronger case on eye215 cough cough its blantantly obvious that that is what i was refering too cough [QUOTE]On December 11 2011 02:21 layabout wrote: [quote] On December 06 2011 06:20 xtfftc wrote: Pretty much all I have on Adam is based on two of his posts that push pro-mafia agenda. Now that I think about it, I have a much stronger case on ey215, even though I decided to leave him for day 2. I don't have enough to convince Adam on my own and it seems that most of the others are happy to lurk or to vote for lynching Bbyte.
Here's what I wrote on Adam earlier in case you're lazy and can't be bothered to check it out: + Show Spoiler +
I'll check the thread again before going to bed.[/quote]
+ you said "i never said jay was my best read" now im fairly sure that the player you think is more like to bbe scum than all your other scum reads is your best scum read + Show Spoiler +On December 11 2011 22:56 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 22:13 layabout wrote: why are you trying to add wifom logic?
if jay was your best read which you said he was then you should have voted for him, you even said so
the fact that you didn't and the fact that you had already said that players in general should lynch their best read is highly contradictory. how does that involve wifom? I never said that Jay was my best read. I said I consider a mafia team consisting of Jay, BKE, and EY or xsk more likely than the alternative. And I already explained the WIFOM perspective to you. Show nested quote +i attack you because you were happy to be on a day1 bandwagon but on day two when their was a much stronger case for a player being mafia and when you openly stated that you that that player was probably scum and yet you decided to vote for somebody else. and one of the reasons you gave was to "avoid sheeping". yet you had already been on a andwagon. You are a liar. I wasn't happy to be on the Day 1 bandwagon and it is obvious from all the effort I put in my attempts to prevent it. And where is my motive for not voting for Jay? Seriously? If I'm mafia, what is my motive? Are you saying that I knew that someone was mafia and outright refused to vote for him in order to look more suspicious after the red flip? Did I try to save Jay by not voting? Anyone with half a brain would know that he was dead a few hours into Day 2 - and yet I decided not to switch to him for ~36 hours in order to gain absolutely nothing out of it? Show nested quote +the bit i quoted was dated for me as "On December 06 2011 06:20 xtfftc wrote:" before then this is everthing you had to say on eye215: "Everything"? This isn't enough for early Day 1? I got called out for tunneling EY too much and you're acting like it was nothing. I had more on EY than other players had on all of us combined. As for the rest of your post, it's a gameplay opinion that I disagree with. But even though I think that you are wrong, I can see your point. All I have to add on the subject is that I explained my vote at the time and no one had an issue with it, so I think that the problem is in you - or you're trying to turn it into a problem because of your red alignment. + Show Spoiler +On December 09 2011 04:53 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 04:33 Blazinghand wrote:On December 09 2011 04:27 xtfftc wrote: Tunkeg, I consider spending time on analysing Jay inefficient now. And I can post my thoughts on why I consider some people to be town as well. Ran through your filter to fetch what we know about your stance on JB. Here's a summary of xtfftc's statements re: JB http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291067¤tpage=36#711On December 08 2011 04:05 xtfftc wrote:On December 07 2011 10:13 Blazinghand wrote: My Original Case for JB: On December 07 2011 10:13 Blazinghand wrote: THE NEW MATERIAL: Your original case was good, your new material was herp-derp. I think I am okay with a Jay lynch for now but I have to re-read his posts first. I was planing to make an analysis of him yesterday, so he's on my to-do list for tonight with Velinath. I am not happy with those jumping on the Jay lynch though. You know my case on Adam and Velinath is someone who warrants a good long look, considering his recent posts. Posting about how he's suspicious of people jumping on the Bbyte lynch (not to mention he didn't bother pointing out what actually happened in my case) and then jumping on the Jay bandwagon just like that: On December 07 2011 11:33 Velinath wrote: First off, I was roleblocked last night.
Secondly, yes, I agree with this lynch. Scummy posts after Night 1 and the analyses posted? No question. Hassy can be saved for tomorrow.
##Vote: jaybrundage How about posting his own views before voting? He goes on to add some stuff later which sound okay but that's not enough. Calls part of my case good, part of it bad. Said he's ok with a Jay lynch, but needs to re-read his post. Says he is not happy with those who are lynching him. Hedging. A page later: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291067¤tpage=37#724On December 08 2011 04:22 xtfftc wrote:On December 07 2011 16:09 Adam4167 wrote: It IS everyone’s fault that Bbyte ended up dead. We had 6 people follow BH’s invoking of a lurker lynch almost blindly, that is their failings and as BH has pointed out since, its also the failing of everyone else that none of us had put forward a compelling enough case to keep Bbyte off the hangman’s noose. Parroting what Veli said. Yes, it is everyone's fault that we couldn't consolidate on a proper case but no, we didn't have 6 people follow BH's invoking of a lurker lynch almost blindly. Sounds like mafia trying to make us think that this wasn't as bad of a loss as it was to me. On December 07 2011 16:09 Adam4167 wrote:On December 07 2011 10:56 jaybrundage wrote: Briefly looking over you new case its pretty shitty with no content.
Nice use of caps to make it seem like you have a point. Your "core of your argument. Is also dumb is stated multiple times i did not like the Bbyte case. I'm not gonna let you steamroll the townies into another mislynch.
Ill give people some time to read my case before i comment again. I was not expecting EB to get killed i was thinking either BH Veli maybe Grack even. I really wish he had posted his case on me instead of his empty comment that he thinks I'm mafia. Are you kidding? He’s spent hours looking at your filter and you “briefly look” at it. You might want to go back and examine the SHIT out of his case on you and start defending yourself properly. Calling his case “shit” is tantamount to saying “no u r”, it might have worked when you were 7, but its not flying here. This is a great point (Jay either scumslipped really badly or he spends more time writing his own posts than analysing others, which is pretty bad), but Adam sure likes adding fluff to his arguments. All he needed was the bolded bit, everything else is completely pointless. On December 07 2011 16:09 Adam4167 wrote: Is this a slip? “I'm not gonna let you steamroll the townies into another mislynch.”. You are part of the town… shouldn’t this read “im not going to let you steamroll us into another myslynch”, unless of course you don’t consider yourself part of the town. This is pretty bad. What is the right way to say it then? "I'm not going to let you steamroll me into mislynching myself"? I will revisit my suspicion from yesteyday when I thought that Adam might be bussing Jay. This is actually a discussion of Adam's post, but he notes that JB scumslipped, and suspects Adam may be bussing him (which is to say, Adam suspects JB of being scum) Finally, talking to ey215 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291067¤tpage=37#729On December 08 2011 04:56 xtfftc wrote:On December 08 2011 04:15 ey215 wrote: I'm not 100% sold that he's scum, but I'm sold his behavior has been anti-town.
##vote: jaybrundage ... Town does not vote to punish bad play. Town votes to lynch mafia. On December 08 2011 04:15 ey215 wrote: Fuck, I can't believe I'm jumping on the bandwagon but at the moment I don't see a better lynch option. ... How about making a case or pushing the discussion further with some analysis? I know I said I'm going to look at Jay and Velinath like 10 minutes ago but I can't allow ey215 to stay under the radar like this for another day. It sounds like you don't think JB is mafia. You've admitted he scumslips, you suspect Adam is bussing him, and you found my initial case on him convincing. Where do you stand? I've posted more on Jay, look at Day 1 but it's mostly one off remarks (such as pointing out how Jay justified not voting for a lurker by saying that we shouldn't lynch a lurker because a lurker isn't around to defend himself) and I don't see how the last quote was me suggesting that he is probably town. It was me pointing out the scumminess of EY's reasoning, and at that moment it was to be expected that mafia would jump on the Jay bandwagon. At the moment I think that Jay is more likely to be scum because if he's not, we have EY, xsk, and Adam left, and I consider Adam to be the worst lynch out of the players I am suspicious of (Adam, Jay, EY, xsk, BKE)
regarding LAL and you accusing me of lying i have shown that you have lied and additionally you have not directly explained yourself, you have evaded the points i have made you have been misleading and you have posted fluff but you are instead trying to OMGUS me, your reason? that i said "you were happily on a bandwagon" well guess what, you were on a bandwagon and if you were unhappy about it or you felt that there was a better other option you should not have been on it, regardless of what you say you were on itand you did lynch a town.
+your case on eye215 is mostly day 1 stuff and the whole i made 5 posts in a short space of time...tunneling... how can you say i did have a case? - is pure nonsense the first time you put together a case was " December 08 2011 07:30." (near the bottom of page 3 of your filter.
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my take on BKEXE strenghts of the case against him: he lurked quite a bit early on, apparantly he was busy but lurking doesn't help town he has referred to the fact that he is new repeatedly, this only serves to lower our expectations of him (and perhaps ignore him( or to forgive scummy or anti-town moves because he is new and made a mistake.
a new town player should not keep calling themselves bad or new it provides an excuse for Mafia as new players you (we) should try to contribute not remind people that we might fuck up (the game is also exclusively made up of new players so being new does give you free license to be bad).
he has made a lot of mistakes with formatting and his post are very hard to read. this makes him appear to be contributing whilst actually just clogging up the thread it also reinforces that he is new and might make mistakes
"buddying with jay"
by this point you had all voted for and condemned him it is also worth noting this post
On December 11 2011 02:29 BroodKingEXE wrote: I do not have anymore time to defend myself as I need to study for finals. I urge everyone to come up with a plan when I do not turn up mafia. I say do not blame the players that created the case against me, but blame the people who used their cases and did not check for errors.
I need to develop my skills about gathering evidence in the game and was not active enough in the scum hunt. I know that the case against me was pretty solid though, as I was not good in double checking my evidence.
Well,GG BroodKingEXE this is incredibly anti town, it doesn't help in any way and a post like this is almost volunteering to be the lynch. he has had 1 vote since then
he later posted that he had the dealine wrong. /doh
Weaknesses in his case being inept is independent of alignment - he is definately new he is making mistakes
adam made a post showing how BKEXE and jaydunbridge were defending each other
[+ Show Spoiler +QUOTE] On December 08 2011 13:37 Adam4167 wrote:On December 08 2011 12:01 Velinath wrote: And of course RIGHT after I post that, BKEXE comes back with some decent reasoning and also steps up and votes. Guhhhhhhhhhhh I don't see what you see at all. I see BKEXE quote BH's book that he wrote on jay, ramble on about policy (a bit late in the piece for this really..), then dump his vote on jay after calling him an idiot. Oh and don't forget declaring how new he is... again. Your case on BKEXE was exactly where I was heading with the next day (assuming I survive the night.). It was well done and did a good job of highlighting exactly how BKEXE has been playing thus far, however I am going to highlight something you missed: BKEXE and jay have been defending each other this entire game: Here BKEXEHere jayHere jayHere jayHere jayBKEXE's more recent posts aimed at jay are nothing more than distancing because we have shifted focus onto them. It is just a smokescreen, do not buy into this nonsense. [/QUOTE] notice a pattern, bk was the 1st to "defend" jay and from then on jay was "defending" BKEXE we cannot know for sure and it may be that after 10 mins looking i could find the post that contradicts this BUT it is entirely possible that jay purposely created a connection between himself and BK knowing that when he flipped red the pitchforks would be hunting BK. we cannot be certain of how they act and this can be WIFOM'ed to death but it is important to remeber that jay's flip does not tell us a lot about BK's alignment.
his posts in the last 24 hours may be him trying to help or simply him trying to seem town and change the vote but i feel that lynching him is a very reasonable move because his behaviour has been plain anti-town and there is an okay chance of him flipping scum. personally i think he is bad town + Show Spoiler +I still think we should lynch xtfftc
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Layabout,
Why are you using Grack's evidence to defend your case? Layabout's info: + Show Spoiler +On December 11 2011 02:21 layabout wrote:Show nested quote + On December 06 2011 06:20 xtfftc wrote: Pretty much all I have on Adam is based on two of his posts that push pro-mafia agenda. Now that I think about it, I have a much stronger case on ey215, even though I decided to leave him for day 2. I don't have enough to convince Adam on my own and it seems that most of the others are happy to lurk or to vote for lynching Bbyte.
Here's what I wrote on Adam earlier in case you're lazy and can't be bothered to check it out: + Show Spoiler +
I'll check the thread again before going to bed.
you have a strong case on a player but you would rather not post it and you would rather vote for someone other than your best read? seriously? so you vote for BByte Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 07:26 xtfftc wrote: I'm going to bed, so I'm voting for Bbyte. It's not ideal but it's better than some unpleasant last minute surprise.
##Unvote: xsksc
##Vote: BByte
why? "its better than a last minute suprise" you just jump on a bandwagonShow nested quote +On December 09 2011 05:24 xtfftc wrote: Yes, albeit a short one that doesn't cover some bits. I feel uneasy about the way no one objects on lynching Jay. It feels like Day 1 all over again, which makes me wonder whether Jay might actually be town - even though mafia are probably just bussing him at this point. So my vote stays on EY to remind people that we have to catch the whole mafia team and not just one member of it. another contradiction it also doesn't make sense that "to remind people that we have to catch the whole mafia team" could be a reason for a vote i also think your case against eye is weak i shall soon explain why.
Grack's info: + Show Spoiler +On December 12 2011 03:55 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 04:20 xtfftc wrote: I think we have two good targets: xsk and Adam (and possibly Jay) but at least there's just one lurker in the game, so lynching Bbyte is somewhat okay.
I've been very vocal about my views on policy lynches and starting another discussion on LAL won't do town any good, so I won't repeat myself. But I really think that it gives mafia an easy ride. Look at how happy xsk was to jump on it - and he's going to be asleep until the deadline, so he won't be changing his vote for a proper lynch.
Obviously, I'm a minority on policies, so you can do it - but I have no reasons to consider Bbyte mafia and lynching mafia is my priority. Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 05:49 xtfftc wrote: So, I want to lynch xsk for reprimading Blazinghand when Blazinghand was pushing the town forward; for switching from calling out Blazinghand on being too aggressive to being really aggressive himself with no proper reason (and without pushing the town agenda forward); for "pressuring" people but making sure they know that he is happy to unvote them; for jumping on the Bbyte lynch (the easy lynch at the time) after he saw that no one is happy with going after one of the players who looks a lot like town, Tunkeg. I didn't like how he defended himself yesterday (claiming that it's unfair to accuse him of not chasing mafia because he's been doing analysis... just not sharing it with us) but what followed was even worse: tunneling on EB, trying to discredit Tunkeg, and then going after the lurker. Where are his other reads?
I'll post on Adam in a bit.
Also, I think that if you consider one of the lynch candidates to be mafia, you should go for him. If you think that we are unlikely to catch some mafia tonight, by all means do vote for Bbyte the lurker. Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 07:26 xtfftc wrote: I'm going to bed, so I'm voting for Bbyte. It's not ideal but it's better than some unpleasant last minute surprise.
##Unvote: xsksc
##Vote: BByte
lol, you said that you fought vigorously against the BByte lynch? This is just an outright lie. before the lynch you make several statements such as: there's just one lurker in the game, so lynching Bbyte is somewhat okay. If you think that we are unlikely to catch some mafia tonight, by all means do vote for Bbyte the lurker. Then in your last post you even vote for him. "fought vigorously against the BByte lynch" is just complete and utter bullshit. You were completely willing to vote for him.
If you really think xtfftc is more scummy, use your own evidence not the evidence of another. Careful Grack!! Do not let him pin a bad lynch on you if the XFT lynch goes bad.
Adam, You also refer to a spoiler that does not exist. Trying to mislead us?
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@BK if you look carefully BK you will see that is is a formatiing error (im ashamed that you of all people have pointed this out) but that the reference to adam was in a quote i quoted and the spoiler was from xtfftc but its contents were not the part of the post i was refering to
im using gracks "info" (a quote that he quoted) because the he highlighted a contradiction and because it is such a major contradiction when looked at in the context of his actions as a whole that he needs to explain it.
xtfftc has said "he thinks x is most likey to be mafia and then voted for y" and the reason he gave "to remind everyone that we have to catch 2 scum so im leaving my vote on eye215"(loosely i must have quoted it 2 times already) make absolutely no sense for someone whose priority is to catch mafia. when you combine this with the way he has evaded the actual points made against him but still posted a ton of stuff (so it looks like he is trying to help) he is very likely to be scum.
rather than not so subtly calling me mafia how about you post proper usable analysis to help town when you flip (if your town) or just dont post (if you are scum)
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Blazinghand
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While you can't discount the possibility of him being colossally bad town, I refuse to believe that anyone could play so poorly. His excuse for the walls of text was "where is the preview button"
There's NO WAY you miss the preview button.
The fact of the matter is, he didn't add anything of value via analysis, and in fact actively hindered town debate with his posting, until the last 24ish hours. Honestly, in the past day since people have piled onto him he (despite some initial anti-town sentiment) has made several posts, some of which had lies and/or "misreading" in them, and some of which may have value, and some of which suffered from "quote tag syndrome" whereby the entire post is illegible.
My case on him is long and is not, in fact, based entirely off of his defending JayBrundage-- if you take a look, the vast majority of the analysis is on stuff he did before he made a singular post defending JB. For the most part, I'm noting that he's posting lots of fluff but no analysis, not helping the town, headnodding, and trying to stay low-- and when he gets called out for this a couple times, he makes crappy retorts and waits until something else springs up and ignores counterarguments.
Even without his statements on JB, BKEXE is our best lynch today.
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As a side note, I have some good news! Our blues are probably Doctor + DT/Watch, because there's no other reason I'd get roleblocked last night. They think I'm DT/Watcher, and as long as they keep roleblocking me our blues are free to do what they want (since they'll probably think I'm bluffing to get them to stop roleblocking me).
I guess we'll know at the end of tonight. At this point, I just want to see the BKEXE flip so I can either be extremely pleased or extremely mad.
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Okay guys, This is going to be my last post for real. Here is my final read on the situation:
EY and layabout are mafia.
Grack has pointed out EY and XTF are highly unlikely, so I looked at other players. LA fits the bill for me, as he has used Grack's evidence as his own and puts up quotes and spoilers worse than mine. They can lack information on who posted and some spoilers do not have anything in them at all. While LA has been making accusations his above post feels to me more like a reason for him to vote for XTF, than a read on me (BKE). He makes an attempt at scum hunting XTF, but his argument about XTF thinking "JB was more likely to be mafia" is shit. XTF said out of the choices JB was most likely, so why would he not vote for him? I also find it wierd that he is digging into Turnkeg, but does nothing to accuse him.
I feel EY is more likely mafia, because he has bandwagoned on all his votes. XTF only had, at most two, and they have both lied somewhat. I feel XTF though is more willing to scum hunt and provide info. EY has stated that he has info, but will not share it until he has to (scummy behavior in my view).
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Blazinghand
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Final note for BKEXE: In the unbelievably unlikely event that you are Blue and didn't claim already, tell us what your night actions were before you die, or indicate that there are breadcrumbs. Or something.
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off to bed, thanks for the laughs BK
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Blazinghand
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I suppose it's fitting that I be the final nail in the man's coffin.
Anyways, I delayed my actual vote action in order to get people to bandwagon less, talk more. Man, BKEXE, we hardly knew ye.
Don't be so sad; it seems you figured out how to format posts, near the end there. Onwards then-- go into the blackness, past the precipice of death that is like unto shadow fading to darkness. Care not for us then, for when darkness gives way to void, and void to abyss, what will be left of these earthly wants?
Nothing.
##Vote: BKEXE
If he's scum, we've basically got this wrapped up.
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- Night 3 -
Zona watched as the somewhat smaller class continued to converse, trying to identify the wolves among the sheep. After making sure no one was paying attention, Zona discreetly turned on the computer and starting working on what was really important...grant applications.
Hmm...looks like I qualify for this one. Let's see...a new method to engage and teach secondary students the fundamental components of human interaction, with case studies. That sounds good. The quiet tapping of keys continued to serve as the ambient atmospheric sound as the students continued on their class.
A subtle ding! brought Zona's attention back to the students in the room.
"Time's up, class. Who are you going to vote to expel from the group today?"
The vast majority of those present confidently identified BroodKingEXE as the target for the day.
Zona smiled at their choice. "The third expulsion, let's find out how accurate your collective judgement is!"
The students smiled in anticipation.
"Very well. BroodKingEXE, please reveal to the class the card you were provided at the beginning of the exercise."
jaybrundage slowly pulled out his card and turned it over slowly. It was blank.
"Oh, I don't think that was part of the plan. Well, maybe it was, for the remaining pair of conspirators. You are dismissed for the day!
BroodKingEXE, the Vanilla Townie was kicked out by the class!
Vote count for the Day 3 lynch
BroodKingEXE (6): Velinath, ey215, Grackaroni, Bluelightz, Tunkeg, xtfftc
ey215 (1): BroodKingEXE
xtfftc (1): layabout
Night 3 ends in 23.65 hours, at exactly 10.00 KST the 13th of December.
For those of you who have night actions, send PMs to both Forumite and myself to indicate how you wish to use them!
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Blazinghand, since we're utilizing a bot to count votes, you need to vote for a player's exact username. (Capitalization doesn't matter though.) In this case though, it didn't make a difference in the end.
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Goodbye GL, BroodEXE
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Blazinghand is going to be pissed lol. On a friendlier note. @BKEXE : I think you played pretty well on your last day, you figured out how to format your posts, you came back and contributed to the game at the end and gave us your reads. (instead of the post the day before when you gave up without realizing there was over a day left.) Your play at the start was poor but you improved
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Also a wierd fact. BKEXE/BByte/Adam4167/EB Were the people I considered the lurkers from the start of the game. All of them have flipped and they were all vanilla townies. It seems like lurkers tend to be bored townies more often than scum trying to avoid detection.
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Blazinghand
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On December 12 2011 10:34 Grackaroni wrote: Blazinghand is going to be pissed lol.
Yes. I am very upset. I will be having some very, very choice words with BKEXE after this game, should I be scheduled to encounter him in another.
There's nothing to be gained from be badmouthing BKEXE at this point, though.
On December 12 2011 10:40 Grackaroni wrote: Also a wierd fact. BKEXE/BByte/Adam4167/EB Were the people I considered the lurkers from the start of the game. All of them have flipped and they were all vanilla townies. It seems like lurkers tend to be bored townies more often than scum trying to avoid detection.
So it seems.
If the doctor could bail me out again tonight that would be great. Maybe he's busy, though, so I'm going to crank out some analysis.
Assuming our doctor is shitty, after tonight, we'll be at 5 townies 2 mafia. If we still have both blues we should be looking reasonably solid, but we need a good lynch tomorrow. If the doctor is shitty/dead, we'll drop down to 3 townies, 2 mafia, and then we need hella solid lynching.
Let's get it right tomorrow, guys.
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Whoops, lazy copy-pasta error.
In the night post, it should be "BroodKingEXE slowly pulled out his card and turned it over slowly. It was blank." (not "jaybrundage")
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Its ok Zona lets just call it a Cameo Appearance.
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Quiet night so far.
What do you guys think about what layabout's put together on xtfftc so far, and xtfftc's reaction to that?
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