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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#1061
I still think that Xtfftc is scum.
Additional Info from night kills
Both EB/Adam before they died were suspicious of xtfftc.
xtfftc was accusing EB of smurfing so it may help to explain EB's early death.
Nothing concrete just something that strengthens my views in my own eyes.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
December 12 2011 17:30 GMT
#1062
@ the thread - please be active and contribute

i think at this stage it is reasonable to state that blues (cop and tracker) may have some information and that there is a considerable chance that you might get shot tonight (2blues out of 6 town) i hope that you realise that if you die sitting on information then town does not benefit from it.
i think that it is worth thinking about claiming immediately before the nightpost (please use common sense)
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 12 2011 17:47 GMT
#1063
On December 13 2011 02:30 layabout wrote:
@ the thread - please be active and contribute

i think at this stage it is reasonable to state that blues (cop and tracker) may have some information and that there is a considerable chance that you might get shot tonight (2blues out of 6 town) i hope that you realise that if you die sitting on information then town does not benefit from it.
i think that it is worth thinking about claiming immediately before the nightpost (please use common sense)


How do you know blues are cop and tracker this game?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 12 2011 17:49 GMT
#1064
On December 13 2011 02:47 Velinath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 02:30 layabout wrote:
@ the thread - please be active and contribute

i think at this stage it is reasonable to state that blues (cop and tracker) may have some information and that there is a considerable chance that you might get shot tonight (2blues out of 6 town) i hope that you realise that if you die sitting on information then town does not benefit from it.
i think that it is worth thinking about claiming immediately before the nightpost (please use common sense)


How do you know blues are cop and tracker this game?

I don't really agree with them claiming, if they had information its probably been bread crumbed.
Cop/tracker are the only blues who could have information to claim. (no doc saves)
It would be really bad if a doctor claimed.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 12 2011 17:52 GMT
#1065
On December 13 2011 02:49 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 02:47 Velinath wrote:
On December 13 2011 02:30 layabout wrote:
@ the thread - please be active and contribute

i think at this stage it is reasonable to state that blues (cop and tracker) may have some information and that there is a considerable chance that you might get shot tonight (2blues out of 6 town) i hope that you realise that if you die sitting on information then town does not benefit from it.
i think that it is worth thinking about claiming immediately before the nightpost (please use common sense)


How do you know blues are cop and tracker this game?

I don't really agree with them claiming, if they had information its probably been bread crumbed.
Cop/tracker are the only blues who could have information to claim. (no doc saves)
It would be really bad if a doctor claimed.

kk, it just seemed awkwardly worded
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 12 2011 18:33 GMT
#1066
On December 12 2011 10:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 10:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Blazinghand is going to be pissed lol.


Yes. I am very upset. I will be having some very, very choice words with BKEXE after this game, should I be scheduled to encounter him in another.

There's nothing to be gained from be badmouthing BKEXE at this point, though.

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 10:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Also a wierd fact.
BKEXE/BByte/Adam4167/EB Were the people I considered the lurkers from the start of the game.
All of them have flipped and they were all vanilla townies.
It seems like lurkers tend to be bored townies more often than scum trying to avoid detection.


So it seems.

If the doctor could bail me out again tonight that would be great . Maybe he's busy, though, so I'm going to crank out some analysis.

Assuming our doctor is shitty, after tonight, we'll be at 5 townies 2 mafia. If we still have both blues we should be looking reasonably solid, but we need a good lynch tomorrow. If the doctor is shitty/dead, we'll drop down to 3 townies, 2 mafia, and then we need hella solid lynching.

Let's get it right tomorrow, guys.


Why is it you think you are the one the doctor (if there is one) should save? It's great to have an ego, but in the end you are just another player in the game, and there is no reason for a doc to prioritize you over anyone else. Hell, you might even be scum trying to get the doc to waste all his saves on you...
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
December 12 2011 18:42 GMT
#1067
On December 13 2011 01:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Both EB/Adam before they died were suspicious of xtfftc.

I couldn't recall Adam being suspicious of me, so I decided to re-read his posts... All I found was him saying that "When I was reading xtfftc's analysis, I couldn't help but find myself unconvinced. I was wondering if it was because he himself was unconvinced, which by the sound of it, he is."

Is this the evidence you are talking about?


On December 13 2011 01:20 Grackaroni wrote:
xtfftc was accusing EB of smurfing so it may help to explain EB's early death.

Great logic... How about mafia realising that EB is a smurf and killing him for the same reason? Can this help to explain EB's early death? Or does the fact that I was open with my read on EB mean that I was the only one who could possibly read his posts and figure it out?


On December 12 2011 10:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Also a wierd fact.
BKEXE/BByte/Adam4167/EB Were the people I considered the lurkers from the start of the game.
All of them have flipped and they were all vanilla townies.
It seems like lurkers tend to be bored townies more often than scum trying to avoid detection.

I don't think that we can read anything into this though... There's mafia in the active players but this doesn't mean that Blue is necessarily town. Going over those who were in favour of lynching lurkers won't help either. Most townies love policies, including ineffective ones, and so it's easy for mafia to jump on something like Lynch All Lurkers and appear to be "pro-town". Ironically, even Bbyte himself was in favour of LaL.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
December 12 2011 18:42 GMT
#1068
Velinath, what do you think of my posts on layabout, especially the last one?
ey215
Profile Joined June 2010
United States546 Posts
December 12 2011 20:44 GMT
#1069
I'm struggling where to specifically go from here. I'll do some more filtering and see what I can come up with. I'm just seriously irritated at BK being town. That was such a wasted lynch (that he brought on himself) and I really don't think there's much new we can go off of.

layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
December 12 2011 23:01 GMT
#1070
vers xxx analysis
have a look at tree huggers contradiction and vers analysis of it
it is almost perfect match for what xtfftc wrote (i have linked it enough times already)

+the thread is worth reading if you have time
i think he fits lots of the behaviours outlined by Ver as mafia motivated

(i don't know which blues are in the game i just think they need to consider that they could die soon)
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 12 2011 23:28 GMT
#1071
I find tunkeg and grackaroni suspicious at the moment.

I have a final in an hour and a half and am unable to do the analysis I'd like to between now and the day post. I hope I don't get killed. Be back in a bit.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
December 13 2011 00:02 GMT
#1072
did you know that it is optimal play for town to not post?
oh wait...
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 13 2011 00:03 GMT
#1073
On December 13 2011 09:02 layabout wrote:
did you know that it is optimal play for town to not post?
oh wait...


Say it straight or don't say it at all.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 13 2011 00:04 GMT
#1074
On December 13 2011 09:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 09:02 layabout wrote:
did you know that it is optimal play for town to not post?
oh wait...


Say it straight or don't say it at all.


Like, I'm completely serious. I have final exams, and it turns out that this particular one is a bit more taxing than I thought it would be. If you're gonna call me mafia, come out and say it. If you're going to say "this posting habit is sub-optimal", come out and say that. If you beat around the bush you're a) being a dick and b) not actually helping me, or the town.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
December 13 2011 00:12 GMT
#1075
i don't mean you im just frustrated that since joining the game i have made a very large proportion of the posts the posts i have made have been largely unadressed, that after voting for BK people went quiet and that people really aren't offering opinions of the points raised or providing analysis or discussion. i joined a game 3 days ago and there have been 5 pages of posts. if town isn't active it is difficult to be productive and we need to be more focused.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 01:07:32
December 13 2011 01:01 GMT
#1076
- Day 4 -

[image loading]

Grackaroni was sunbathing on the university lawn, like many other students like him. He was late for class, and he didn´t care. Lying back in the sun, he thought about the mysterious note he had gotten the previous evening. "Miss Truth 101 tomorrow, and I´ll make it up to you." True enough, the money had followed, and so here he was. He didn´t mind, he had been waiting for a reason to drop out for a while, and someone had picked up on it. It was a win-win situation, but he couldn´t shake the feeling that someone else won more...

The discussion had allready started in class, under the watchfull gaze of Professor Zona. The participants were slowly dwindling, but those remaining showed no signs of relenting.



Grackaroni, the Vanilla Townie, succumbed to tempation.



Day 4 ends in 48 hours, at 01:00 GMT (+00:00), or 10:00 KST the 15th of December
:3
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
December 13 2011 01:06 GMT
#1077
Damn me and my temptations!
GG all. GL townies, bring it home
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 13 2011 03:41 GMT
#1078
Well, at least they didn't hit a blue. Was anyone roleblocked last night?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
December 13 2011 05:38 GMT
#1079
On December 13 2011 09:12 layabout wrote:
i don't mean you im just frustrated that since joining the game i have made a very large proportion of the posts the posts i have made have been largely unadressed, that after voting for BK people went quiet and that people really aren't offering opinions of the points raised or providing analysis or discussion. i joined a game 3 days ago and there have been 5 pages of posts. if town isn't active it is difficult to be productive and we need to be more focused.

And yet you still want to lynch me for trying to get the town to discuss things... Go figure.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
December 13 2011 05:47 GMT
#1080
On December 13 2011 14:38 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 09:12 layabout wrote:
i don't mean you im just frustrated that since joining the game i have made a very large proportion of the posts the posts i have made have been largely unadressed, that after voting for BK people went quiet and that people really aren't offering opinions of the points raised or providing analysis or discussion. i joined a game 3 days ago and there have been 5 pages of posts. if town isn't active it is difficult to be productive and we need to be more focused.

And yet you still want to lynch me for trying to get the town to discuss things... Go figure.

I want to lynch you because of what layabout's actually brought up and you haven't addressed. Weak justifications - those with WIFOM logic - responding to some legitimate concerns? Your voting pattern has yet to be adequately explained to me, and layabout's case on you does indeed concern me - to the point of me being extremely suspicious. I think you're scum at this point.
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