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On November 16 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:MVP vs JjakjiMap is crossfire In the bottom left is MVP While in the top right is JJakji
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both players getting barracks + gas
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On November 16 2011 20:20 Fionn wrote: There was no Code A spot for the tournament. Coca did what he did literally because him and Byun were goofing off and wanted to continue fucking around in the third game. It wasn't some master scheme to get Byun a Code A spot. It was just two eighteen-year-old kids taking a tournament non-seriously. Yeah TT They shouldn't have done this but it was not that bad.
anyway, TvT on Crossfire, bad news :D
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On November 16 2011 20:16 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:12 s3rp wrote:On November 16 2011 20:09 Mithridates wrote:On November 16 2011 20:07 rushian wrote:On November 16 2011 20:06 OMGKEI wrote: Sigh when will MC learn and change up his style...he had plenty of time to improve.. It's not style. He just isn't playing as well as the newer protosses. His unit control hasn't improved as it should and he's been passed by players who have improved This so called better newer protoss havent won anything yet. They are struggling code A Oz and Puzzle played ALOT better then MC and got into Ro8 , Huk and Killer also looked better to be frank. He's right though. The so called Protoss hopes have failed to make ANY significant splash on the scene. People like to bash MC because of how damn brilliant he can be compared to now, but they don't realize the zealot is still sad, and protoss doesn't have a good hero yet. Why do people need a "Hero" of any sort? It's like some of the posters in this board are like pre-teen children reading about tales of white knight. All I care about is a good/skilled player advancing and proving themselves. So far, the quality of games this season has been somewhat lacking to be honest. I assume it's due to the new maps and the new system. I keep a positive outlook, though.
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On November 16 2011 20:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:17 Pipeline wrote: Artosis makes me so disappointed. He said he didnt want to comment on PPSL and Gus because "his tournament was just awesome great, bla bla bla" and now he comments freely of the Byun and Coca scandal without any additional info. What a douche Um, he has to explain why one of his players isn't actually playing in his own tournament. You think they're not going to mention Coca as he doesn't play in the games they're casting? Way to call him a douche when the situations are completely different lol. Just makes you look silly.
There is NO connection with the Korean Weekly with the new GSL system at all. So how the BEEP is it related to the GSL?
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On November 16 2011 20:21 Vorenius wrote: Wait what? What the fuck did Byun do? He was joking around, and obviously never expected CoCa to go and fucking leave the game...
Man, I wish they would just stick to talking about the game if they don't wanna actually figure out what happened. So much missinformation going on on stream right now. The threads about this were already full of this, from people skimming through the OP and then posting their opinion on page 60, ignoring everthing in between. Sad to see Tastosis doing the same on stream. Apparently they discussed it before just the plz leave part that they would play all 3 games because Coca needed vT practice and all his teammates were unavailable
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On November 16 2011 20:19 KingPaddy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:18 Koshi wrote:On November 16 2011 20:17 Pipeline wrote: Artosis makes me so disappointed. He said he didnt want to comment on PPSL and Gus because "his tournament was just awesome great, bla bla bla" and now he comments freely of the Byun and Coca scandal without any additional info. What a douche He works for GSL... And Coca cheated in a GSL related tournament, well not related but there is a free Code A spot in the weekly, so Artosis HAS to comment. There is NO Code A spot in the ESV since the new GSL system
Yes, but seriously. They used the ingame chat for such stupid things. If they would have done this over Skype, none would care. But since they talked about it in the replays, GOMTV can't just ignore it and be silent about it.
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It would make more sense if they gave the highest seed (MVP) the free win, but oh well.
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On November 16 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:MVP vs JjakjiMap is crossfire In the bottom left is MVP While in the top right is JJakji 2:20
both players getting barracks + gas
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Tech lab for JJ
Both players getting an orbital
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On November 16 2011 20:21 Amestir wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:19 Fubi wrote:On November 16 2011 20:18 Koshi wrote:On November 16 2011 20:17 Pipeline wrote: Artosis makes me so disappointed. He said he didnt want to comment on PPSL and Gus because "his tournament was just awesome great, bla bla bla" and now he comments freely of the Byun and Coca scandal without any additional info. What a douche He works for GSL... And Coca cheated in a GSL related tournament, well not related but there is a free Code A spot in the weekly, so Artosis HAS to comment. There was no Code A spot involved, Artosis was just plain out wrong about that part. The winner of the whole thing gets seeded in Code A. Sure the code A spot wasn't directly on the line, but it was in sight.
No, the winner does not get seeded into Code A since the new GSL system.
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On November 16 2011 20:21 Amestir wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:19 Fubi wrote:On November 16 2011 20:18 Koshi wrote:On November 16 2011 20:17 Pipeline wrote: Artosis makes me so disappointed. He said he didnt want to comment on PPSL and Gus because "his tournament was just awesome great, bla bla bla" and now he comments freely of the Byun and Coca scandal without any additional info. What a douche He works for GSL... And Coca cheated in a GSL related tournament, well not related but there is a free Code A spot in the weekly, so Artosis HAS to comment. There was no Code A spot involved, Artosis was just plain out wrong about that part. The winner of the whole thing gets seeded in Code A. Sure the code A spot wasn't directly on the line, but it was in sight.
Please stop trying to argue this, MrChae even came out and said there wasn't one this month because they are waiting to evaluate the new format with teams.
There's also only 2 weeklies scheduled this month.
In sight would be a huge stretch too, even if there had been one available.
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Anyway, let's have MVP cheer us all up (please?)
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On November 16 2011 20:20 9001 wrote: they shouldn't have removed coca from code s imo. maybe fine him, but removing him from code s, especially during this time when he's showing so much improvement, is just killing his career.
he killed his career when he decided to matchmake. well not killed but certainly harmed.
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On November 16 2011 20:22 Pipeline wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 16 2011 20:17 Pipeline wrote: Artosis makes me so disappointed. He said he didnt want to comment on PPSL and Gus because "his tournament was just awesome great, bla bla bla" and now he comments freely of the Byun and Coca scandal without any additional info. What a douche Um, he has to explain why one of his players isn't actually playing in his own tournament. You think they're not going to mention Coca as he doesn't play in the games they're casting? Way to call him a douche when the situations are completely different lol. Just makes you look silly. There is NO connection with the Korean Weekly with the new GSL system at all. So how the BEEP is it related to the GSL? The only thing is player image. There was something else about Mr Chae being upset about profanity in a broadcasted match as well
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On November 16 2011 20:19 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:16 mordk wrote:On November 16 2011 20:12 s3rp wrote:On November 16 2011 20:09 Mithridates wrote:On November 16 2011 20:07 rushian wrote:On November 16 2011 20:06 OMGKEI wrote: Sigh when will MC learn and change up his style...he had plenty of time to improve.. It's not style. He just isn't playing as well as the newer protosses. His unit control hasn't improved as it should and he's been passed by players who have improved This so called better newer protoss havent won anything yet. They are struggling code A Oz and Puzzle played ALOT better then MC and got into Ro8 , Huk and Killer also looked better to be frank. He's right though. The so called Protoss hopes have failed to make ANY significant splash on the scene. People like to bash MC because of how damn brilliant he can be compared to now, but they don't realize the zealot is still sad, and protoss doesn't have a good hero yet. Maybe but Worshiping players that don't have any recent archivements doesn't help either. Even IF the others haven't won anything they at least play better then the current MC.
But that's not true. Puzzle with his performance today has shown the most promise of this. Sage also deserves the moniker but lets watch how far Oz goes before we get too bold.
MC's play was not as bad as some are making out. His error of the night was the 1 emp. Everything else didn't look that questionable. The nex defense was still a decision away from being defended and likely the prep for a drop that didn't happen was what was costly.
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On November 16 2011 20:22 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:On November 16 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:MVP vs JjakjiMap is crossfire In the bottom left is MVP While in the top right is JJakji 2:20
both players getting barracks + gas 3:00Tech lab for JJ Both players getting an orbital
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Reaper on the way for JJ
Factory and a second gas for MVP
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On November 16 2011 20:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:17 Pipeline wrote: Artosis makes me so disappointed. He said he didnt want to comment on PPSL and Gus because "his tournament was just awesome great, bla bla bla" and now he comments freely of the Byun and Coca scandal without any additional info. What a douche Um, he has to explain why one of his players isn't actually playing in his own tournament. You think they're not going to mention Coca as he doesn't play in the games they're casting? Way to call him a douche when the situations are completely different lol. Just makes you look silly.
Plus in the case of the former more information could elborate what was going on. In the Byun/Coca incicent we know what happend, there is absolutely nothing that could come out that could make what happend okay.
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On November 16 2011 20:21 Vorenius wrote: Wait what? What the fuck did Byun do? He was joking around, and obviously never expected CoCa to go and fucking leave the game...
Man, I wish they would just stick to talking about the game if they don't wanna actually figure out what happened. So much missinformation going on on stream right now. The threads about this were already full of this, from people skimming through the OP and then posting their opinion on page 60, ignoring everthing in between. Sad to see Tastosis doing the same on stream.
Because people can't spend 3-4 hours reading a thread. That's often why controversial subjects should have updated OP by someone, but the very fact he asked is still wrong.
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On November 16 2011 20:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:17 Pipeline wrote: Artosis makes me so disappointed. He said he didnt want to comment on PPSL and Gus because "his tournament was just awesome great, bla bla bla" and now he comments freely of the Byun and Coca scandal without any additional info. What a douche He works for GSL... And Coca cheated in a GSL related tournament, well not related but there is a free Code A spot in the weekly, so Artosis HAS to comment. God dammit.
Learn to fucking read...
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On November 16 2011 20:20 Fionn wrote: There was no Code A spot for the tournament. Coca did what he did literally because him and Byun were goofing off and wanted to continue fucking around in the third game. It wasn't some master scheme to get Byun a Code A spot. It was just two eighteen-year-old kids taking a tournament non-seriously.
Yeah, but sadly when the news first broke out that was the information that was being tossed around and what stuck around. Plus, most people don't understand the new Code A spot (I mean, how many people actually know who goes into Up and Down?).
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On November 16 2011 20:22 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 20:22 Drazerk wrote:On November 16 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:On November 16 2011 20:21 Drazerk wrote:MVP vs JjakjiMap is crossfire In the bottom left is MVP While in the top right is JJakji 2:20
both players getting barracks + gas 3:00Tech lab for JJ Both players getting an orbital 3:40Reaper on the way for JJ Factory and a second gas for MVP
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Command centre on the way for JJ along with a ghost academy
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