Pick Your Power Interesting! - Page 59

[12:01] <kitaman27_> You running for mayor?
[12:01] <Meapak> hmm I'm thinking about it
[12:03] <Meapak> do you know anyone who's running?
[12:03] <kitaman27_> an inventor with bodyguards would be pretty imba
[12:03] <Meapak> my thoughts exactly
[12:03] <kitaman27_> lol seems like half the town
[12:04] <kitaman27_> mig, syllo, chaoser, dropbear, sandroba and a couple others I think
[12:04] <Meapak> what about them?
[12:04] <kitaman27_> they all mentioned they are running
[12:04] <Meapak> damn
[12:04] <Meapak> that's rough
[12:05] <Meapak> there's gotta be scum in the bundle though
[12:05] <kitaman27_> first pick probably helps your chances though
[12:05] <Meapak> there are at least three scum
[12:05] <kitaman27_> I'm more worried about the pardoner than mayor to be honest
[12:05] <Meapak> forgot about the pardoner
[12:05] <Meapak> and with so many people
[12:06] <Meapak> this is going to be an interesting election
[12:06] <kitaman27_> heh
[12:06] <Meapak> I figure syllo, dropbear, and sandroba lack name recognition
[12:06] <Meapak> they aren't new anymore
[12:06] <Meapak> but still
[12:06] <Meapak> people like chaoser have been around waaay longer
[12:06] <kitaman27_> Radfield or Foolishness could probably win without even campaigning
[12:06] <Meapak> however chaoser has a tendancy to not really campaign
[12:06] <Meapak> yeah they
[12:06] <Meapak> could
[12:07] <Meapak> radfield especially
[12:07] <kitaman27_> I'm not sure I would vote for either at this point though
[12:07] <Meapak> I'm not either
[12:07] <kitaman27_> Foolishness has done nothing to make me think he is town and Radfield has been writing novels of common sense
[12:07] <Meapak> I wouldn't vote for ropbear
[12:07] <Meapak> dropbear
[12:08] <Meapak> and you're right about the other two
[12:11] <kitaman27_> apparently syllo/mig are running together
[12:11] <kitaman27_> syllo says mig is "very town", but I'm not sure how he came up with that after half a day
[12:11] <Meapak> wtf
[12:11] <Meapak> tha's stupid
[12:14] <kitaman27_> lol what was the purpose of that list of names in the library thread that you posted a month ago?
[12:14] <Meapak> I'm trying to figure out how many games everyone has played
[12:14] <Meapak> needless to say it's going to be an ardous task
[12:14] <kitaman27_> ah, good luck sorting through that mess -_-
[12:15] <Meapak> I have all the games up through kurumi's game
[12:15] <Meapak> I think I'm going to have a chat with mig about mayor
[12:16] <kitaman27_> It seems pretty unlikely a pair of scumbuddies would run together on day one
[12:16] <Meapak> yeah
[12:16] <Meapak> but I think each of the houses will probably have someone running
[12:17] <Meapak> I'm just interested in mig because of syllo
[12:24] <Meapak> so ahh dropbear
[12:24] <Meapak> thoughts?

[12:16] <Mig__> meapak hello!
[12:17] <Meapak> a little bird tells me you're running for mayor
[12:17] <Mig__> that is what I hear
[12:17] <Mig__> I was gonna ask if you are running
[12:17] <Meapak> I haven't decided yet
[12:17] <Meapak> I'm still not sure what I'm picking lol
[12:18] <Mig__> lolll
[12:18] <Meapak> you're fifth?
[12:18] <Mig__> yea
[12:19] <Mig__> foolish says he may run for mayor also
[12:19] <Meapak> foolish will win if he runs
[12:19] <Meapak> doesn't matter who else is running
[12:25] <Mig__> yea possibly!
[12:25] <Mig__> syllo really wants me to run for mayor
[12:25] <Hentai> why?
[12:25] <Mig__> but I dont want to!
[12:26] <Hentai> then don't
[12:26] <Hentai> syllo may have an agenda or something
[12:26] <Mig__> what agenda can there possibly be lol
[12:26] <Hentai> idk
[12:26] <Mig__> he wants me to run because he is confident I am town
[12:26] <Hentai> oh ok
[12:26] <Hentai> I didn't know he had given you a reason
[12:27] <Mig__> yea we talk on skype a lot we have talked like 10 hours already

[18:24] <Meapak> let's talk
[18:24] <Meapak> since there seems to be some confusion
[18:25] <Radfield_> sure,
[18:25] <Meapak> I just PM'd you everything I remember
[18:25] <Radfield_> coo
[18:25] <Meapak> and the private convo I had with mig
[18:25] <Radfield_> cool
[18:29] <Radfield_> That makes sense with what he said. I do however think mig is very possibly scum.
[18:29] <Radfield_> and lol at you telling me you're taking inventor
[18:29] <Radfield_> after i specifically ask you not to tell anyone
[18:29] <Meapak> you told me not to tell?
[18:30] <Meapak> so you did
[18:30] <Meapak> doesn't matter
[18:30] <Radfield_> my first PM to you: Decide your role for yourself, tell no one, and live with the consequences
[18:30] <Radfield_> presumably not
[18:30] <Radfield_> unless you are telling others?
[18:30] <Meapak> I can't decide
[18:30] <Radfield_> how many people have you told you are taking inventor?
[18:30] <Meapak> I'm comfortable with you
[18:30] <Meapak> you so far
[18:30] <Meapak> I wouldn't have told you if I thought you were likely scum
[18:31] <Meapak> I think I'm gonna tell a few more people though
[18:31] <Meapak> can't decide
[18:31] <Radfield_> If anything, tell everyone you can that you are NOT taking inventor
[18:31] <Radfield_> or else you open yourself up to the thief and the role swapper
[18:31] <Meapak> I wanna sent a trap though
[18:32] <Meapak> oh
[18:32] <Meapak> fuck I hadn't even thought of that
[18:32] <Meapak> I wanted to make something that would tell me who went where at night but make it attach on to the person who kills me
[18:32] <Radfield_> Here's the thing, if you take inventor, the chances of you dying night 1 are extremely high
[18:32] <Meapak> that would reveal pretty much evrey scum
[18:33] <Meapak> ugh
[18:33] <Radfield_> but it allows you to get out 1 very pro-town invention
[18:33] <Radfield_> like a police radio
[18:33] <Meapak> maybe I should run for mayor now
[18:33] <Meapak> or list check
[18:33] <Radfield_> with a gf who can cover people, plus a framer
[18:33] <Radfield_> list check is less good than a Police Radio
[18:33] <Meapak> I'm trying to come up with ideas that reveal mafia regardless of cover
[18:34] <Meapak> so a motion detector that will show everyone who went somewhere is one idea
[18:34] <Radfield_> The great thing about the Police Radio, is it reveals a bunch of confirmed townies as well
[18:34] <Meapak> yeah good point
[18:34] <Meapak> I need to tell one more person
[18:34] <Radfield_> why?
[18:34] <Radfield_> ah
[18:34] <Radfield_> yes
[18:34] <Radfield_> in case i am scum
[18:34] <Meapak> yes
[18:34] <Meapak> haha
[18:35] <Meapak> I was writing out an explanation
[18:35] <Radfield_> lol
[18:35] <Radfield_> i guess i can't really recommend anyone else either
[18:35] <Meapak> well I've sent in my pick and I have to go for a bit, I'll be back in like an hour
[18:35] <Meapak> yeah
[18:35] <Meapak> I was thinking sandroba possibly
[18:35] <Radfield_> at any rate, i will recommend who NOT to tell
[18:35] <Meapak> pm me
[18:35] <Radfield_> that would be my pick
[18:35] <Meapak> i need to go
[18:35] <Radfield_> but.....
[18:36] <Radfield_> k
[18:36] <Radfield_> later

[19:12] <Jimbo> I'm back.
[19:54] <Meapak_away> hi
[19:56] <Jimbo> Hi.
[19:56] <Meapak> I sent in for rockstar
[19:56] <Jimbo> Just wanted to check and see if you had any questions before the deadline.
[19:56] <Meapak> nope I'm setup
[19:56] <Jimbo> kk
[19:56] <Jimbo> For the record,
[19:56] <Jimbo> The chances of us both being town arn't great.
[19:56] <Jimbo> And since I know I'm town,
[19:57] <Jimbo> I'm wary of you.
[19:57] <Jimbo> But only from a statisitcal point of view.
[19:57] <Jimbo> Which is to say,
[19:57] <Jimbo> I will beat myself up after the game if I get screwed over because of this.
[19:58] <Jimbo> Since it's null at this point anyways,
[19:58] <Jimbo> I'll say that I was going to go for Rockstar.
[19:58] <Jimbo> I was gonig to try to get five bodyguards, because then I would know five vanilla townies, and that's pretty huge info.
[19:59] <Meapak> how?
[19:59] <Meapak> would you get bgs
[19:59] <Meapak> and yeah I'm wary of you
[19:59] <Jimbo> Three from mayor,
[19:59] <Jimbo> Two from Rockstar.
[19:59] <Jimbo> They will all be vanilla,
[19:59] <Meapak> but the way our plans works, it's hard for you to fuck the town over
[19:59] <Jimbo> So I ask them what they tried to get,
[19:59] <Meapak> I'm rock star though
[19:59] <Jimbo> (That's the mark of a good plan)
[20:00] <Jimbo> I ask them what they asked for,
[20:00] <Meapak> did you send for inventor?
[20:00] <Jimbo> Yes
[20:00] <Meapak> ok
[20:00] <Jimbo> I'll double check b4
[20:00] <Jimbo> Check.
[20:00] <Jimbo> Lol,
[20:00] <Jimbo> Watch,
[20:00] <Jimbo> Kenpachi will take it.
[20:00] <Meapak> well we know if he does lol
[20:01] <Jimbo> yeah.
[20:01] <Jimbo> But it'll still suck for me.
[20:01] <Jimbo> =D
[20:01] <Meapak> this game is pretty insane lol
[20:02] <Jimbo> Oh hey.
[20:02] <Meapak> what
[20:02] <Jimbo> If I don't get inventor...
[20:02] <Jimbo> Hmm.
[20:02] <Jimbo> Nah,
[20:02] <Jimbo> I don't think there's any reason not to tell you.
[20:02] <Meapak> if you don't get inventor then we have a problem
[20:02] <Meapak> because people may PM me as the inventor
[20:02] <Meapak> and then I have to PM you to see what your powers are
[20:03] <Jimbo> Lol, yeah.
[20:03] <Jimbo> about that.
[20:03] <Meapak> If I don't know who the inventor is me picking rock star is moot
[20:03] <Jimbo> Do we want to keep in communique about what I'm making?
[20:03] <Jimbo> It really shouldn't mattter,
[20:03] <Jimbo> As any pro-town device will be evident.
[20:03] <Meapak> well I will want to be able to tell people what "I'm" making
[20:03] <Meapak> yeah
[20:04] <Meapak> I'm trying to spread it around that I'm the inventor without posting in the thread
[20:04] <Jimbo> Why?
[20:04] <Jimbo> I mean,
[20:04] <Meapak> well
[20:04] <Jimbo> Why would you spread that out, if you were the inventor?
[20:04] <Meapak> I want people to hit me
[20:05] <Jimbo> Ye.
[20:05] <Jimbo> *yes
[20:05] <Jimbo> Hell yeah.
[20:05] <Jimbo> Got it.
[20:05] <Meapak> what?
[20:05] <Jimbo> Obviously you will get yours.
[20:05] <Jimbo> Role.
[20:05] <Meapak> oh lol
[20:05] <Jimbo> Don't ask me why,
[20:05] <Jimbo> but I was worried.
[20:06] <Meapak> I really want to know what kenpachi took
[20:06] <Jimbo> (The really funny thing was that iwasn't worried about you)
[20:06] <Meapak> I wonder if he actually took vt
[20:06] <Jimbo> Rockstar, LAWL.
[20:06] <Jimbo> haha,
[20:06] <Jimbo> that would be funny.
[20:07] <Jimbo> Dayvig can't shoot first day, right?
[20:07] <Meapak> idk actually
[20:07] <Meapak> hm
[20:07] <Jimbo> (I.e, he can't kill the mayor right before he get's elected)
[20:07] <Meapak> apparently my bgs can be any alignment
[20:07] <Meapak> and I doubt it
[20:07] <Jimbo> yes.
[20:07] <Meapak> that would be imba
[20:07] <Jimbo> Yeah
[20:07] <Jimbo> that's what I'm thinking.
[20:07] <Meapak> they also know me
[20:07] <Jimbo> Yeah,
[20:08] <Meapak> which means I can't try and claim inventor without some people knowing I'm lying
[20:08] <Meapak> but the only reason the bg's would out me is if they were scum
[20:08] <Jimbo> Two people, yes.
[20:08] <Jimbo> yes.
[20:08] <Jimbo> So you go with it,
[20:08] <Jimbo> If scum don't hit you...
[20:08] <Jimbo> (within a day or two)
[20:09] <Meapak> I'm trying to come up wiht a good way to claim without making it seem impluasible
[20:09] <Meapak> the easiest would be to run for mayor but you need that
[20:10] <Jimbo> Mmm.
[20:10] <Jimbo> yes,
[20:10] <Jimbo> But I don't know taht you would be the reason I lose.
[20:10] <Jimbo> Rather, i don't think you running would have a big effect on me winning or loseing.
[20:10] <Jimbo> DUDE.
[20:11] <Jimbo> Me and you.
[20:11] <Jimbo> Mayor pardoner.
[20:11] <Meapak> let's do it
[20:11] <Jimbo> it's probably a terrible idea,
[20:11] <Meapak> wait
[20:11] <Meapak> analysis
[20:11] <Meapak> you are scum
[20:11] <Jimbo> But it made me smile, so let's do it.
[20:11] <Jimbo> Crap.
[20:11] <Meapak> you are mayor
[20:11] <Jimbo> make me pardoner!
[20:11] <Meapak> you have one lynch
[20:11] <Jimbo> Yes.
[20:11] <Meapak> you pretty much have to do what the town wants
[20:11] <Jimbo> Can't do much with it though,
[20:11] <Jimbo> right
[20:11] <Meapak> otherwise you get lynched
[20:11] <Meapak> beyond that you are unkillable at night
[20:11] <Meapak> but if we get a dt check on you
[20:11] <Meapak> we can lynch you
[20:12] <Meapak> you're scum
[20:12] <Meapak> you're pardoner
[20:12] <Jimbo> Wait.
[20:12] <Jimbo> No,
[20:12] <Meapak> you can pardon a scum buddy right before a lynch
[20:12] <Jimbo> Can't check the mayor.
[20:12] <Jimbo> Can't target him.
[20:12] <Meapak> oh you cant?
[20:12] <Meapak> ok
[20:12] <Jimbo> Dude, mayor is frikken invinciable.
[20:12] <Jimbo> Only think that can touch him is lynch.
[20:12] <Meapak> lemme finish running through this simulation
[20:12] <Jimbo> kk
[20:12] <Meapak> you are mafia
[20:12] <Meapak> you are scum
[20:12] <Meapak> lol
[20:12] <Jimbo> haha.
[20:13] <Meapak> you are pardnoer
[20:13] <Jimbo> Pardoner.
[20:13] <Jimbo> I pardon a buddy,
[20:13] <Meapak> you pardon your buddy at the last minute
[20:13] <Jimbo> i get lynched,
[20:13] <Meapak> reveals two scum for one
[20:13] <Meapak> confirms who's getting lynched
[20:13] <Meapak> and you
[20:13] <Meapak> as scum
[20:13] <Meapak> ok
[20:13] <Jimbo> half the team is gone.
[20:13] <Meapak> I'm scum
[20:13] <Meapak> I run for mayor
[20:13] <Jimbo> Uh,
[20:13] <Jimbo> btw,
[20:13] <Meapak> same restrictions as you
[20:13] <Jimbo> that scenario only one scum dies,
[20:13] <Jimbo> Cause i don't pardon my own team....wait.
[20:13] <Jimbo> nm.
[20:14] <Meapak> wait was that a scumslip?
[20:14] <Jimbo> That wouldn't screw me over less.
[20:14] <Meapak> wait what?
[20:14] <Meapak> I'm confused
[20:14] <Jimbo> I'm saying, that if I was pardoner scum,
[20:14] <Meapak> oh ok
[20:14] <Jimbo> I wouldn't pardon my own teammate.
[20:14] <Meapak> yeah
[20:14] <Jimbo> Cause that would out two of us.
[20:14] <Jimbo> I would pardon to deny info.
[20:14] <Jimbo> And cause confusion.
[20:14] <Meapak> but still, that mean's your worthless to your team in the pardoning situation
[20:14] <Jimbo> But eya,
[20:14] <Jimbo> I still lose inventor, and that's huge.
[20:15] <Meapak> yeah
[20:15] <Meapak> well ok here's the thing
[20:15] <Meapak> we're deep enough in this now
[20:15] <Meapak> and your inventions will tell your aligment fairly fast
[20:15] <Meapak> I say we do it
[20:15] <Jimbo> We can try,
[20:15] <Jimbo> but Honestly,
[20:15] <Jimbo> If I ever saw two people "running together"
[20:16] <Meapak> nonono
[20:16] <Meapak> we don't run together
[20:16] <Jimbo> RIght,
[20:16] <Jimbo> But we both try.
[20:16] <Meapak> we avoid attacking each other
[20:16] <Meapak> we take down everyone else
[20:16] <Jimbo> If it looks like we don't both make it,
[20:16] <Meapak> till we're the only choices
[20:16] <Jimbo> Uh...
[20:16] <Jimbo> That sounds bad.
[20:16] <Jimbo> hold on a sec.
[20:17] <Meapak> what
[20:18] <Meapak> LOOOOOOOOOOOL someone actually took puppateer
[20:18] <Jimbo> Sorry, Foolishness was bugging me.
[20:18] <Meapak> oh np
[20:20] <Jimbo> Ok,
[20:20] <Jimbo> So,
[20:20] <Jimbo> here's the thing.
[20:20] <Jimbo> I'm not convinced of your innocnece, right?
[20:21] <Meapak> yeah
[20:21] <Jimbo> I've talked with you a lot,
[20:21] <Jimbo> But I'm still not convinced.
[20:21] <Meapak> Similarly for me
[20:21] <Jimbo> Really, there's only one person who I'm kinda cloes to,
[20:21] <Jimbo> But at this point,
[20:21] <Meapak> at this point in the game I have no one who I fully trust
[20:21] <Jimbo> I don't think anyoen shold be sure of anyone.
[20:21] <Jimbo> lol,
[20:21] <Jimbo> sfp
[20:21] <Meapak> what?
[20:22] <Jimbo> sfp: Same freaking person
[20:22] <Meapak> oh haha
[20:22] <Meapak> hadn't heard that one before
[20:22] <Jimbo> It's a phrase I use when two people come to the same conclusion at the same time.
[20:22] <Jimbo> I think I invented it.
[20:22] <Meapak> put it on urban dictionary
[20:22] <Jimbo> Me and two other friends do it all the time.
[20:22] <Jimbo> Lol, yeah.
[20:22] <Meapak> you'd have started someting
[20:23] <Jimbo> Anyways,
[20:23] <Meapak> neither of us fully trust each other
[20:23] <Jimbo> I don't think that we know they other's alignment well enough to support eachother's campaings more than we would normally.
[20:23] <Jimbo> So I say we play it out,
[20:23] <Jimbo> Campaign, sure,
[20:23] <Meapak> sounds fair
[20:24] <Meapak> here's the bottom line
[20:24] <Jimbo> But I'm not going to tear down someone who I think is a legitimatly better candidate than you.
[20:24] <Meapak> I don't know if you took inventor
[20:24] <Meapak> you don't know I took rock star
[20:24] <Meapak> the only thing you can know is if I took inventor if you took it
[20:24] <Meapak> I think that's where we stand
[20:25] <Jimbo> The only thing that i know is that you and ken didn't take Inventor, the only thing you know is that nobody else got rockstar.
[20:25] <Jimbo> ea.
[20:25] <Jimbo> *yea
[20:26] <Jimbo> Tbh,
[20:26] <Jimbo> I'll bet that at LEAST one other person in the top 5-6 picks inventor.
[20:26] <Jimbo> In Personality, three people in the top 7 picked list checker.
[20:26] <Meapak> yeah
[20:26] <Jimbo> Cause it was that important.
[20:27] <Meapak> just so we're straight though, out of everyone in this game so far you're the one I trust most. Doesn't mean I think you're town but I'm just letting you know where I stand
[20:27] <Meapak> that's why I felt comfortable doing our deal
[20:27] <Jimbo> Gotcha.
[20:29] <Jimbo> What do you think of Sandroba?
[20:29] <Meapak> hmmm
[20:29] <Meapak> I like some of the stuff he's written in the thread
[20:30] <Meapak> several people have said good things about him to me
[20:30] <Meapak> I have never talked with him personally though
[20:30] <Meapak> why?
[20:30] <Jimbo> Who said good things about him, if I may ask?
[20:31] <Jimbo> I'm trying to build a web, centered on him.
[20:31] <Meapak> lol
[20:31] <Meapak> lemme check
[20:31] <Meapak> loooooooool
[20:31] <Meapak> it's radfield
[20:31] <Meapak> who I told I was inventor
[20:32] <Meapak> and then I told him I needed to tell someone else incase I died, insurance against him being sum
[20:32] <Meapak> scum
[20:32] <Meapak> he sent me a list of names
[20:32] <Meapak> no offense but I wont give you the whole list
[20:33] <Jimbo> Interesting.
[20:33] <Meapak> however I'll let you know that you are on the "do not tell you are inventor" list
[20:33] <Jimbo> Rad and Sandro were apparently going to run together.
[20:33] <Meapak> sandroba is on the "tell about inventor" list
[20:33] <Jimbo> Right.
[20:33] <Meapak> I thought that was syllo and sandro
[20:33] <Jimbo> Hmm.
[20:33] <Meapak> I'd rather you not confront radfield about this
[20:33] <Jimbo> Sandro trust Syllo.
[20:33] <Jimbo> No problem.
[20:33] <Meapak> syllo trusts sandro
[20:34] <Meapak> wait
[20:34] <Jimbo> Right.
[20:34] <Meapak> back to the irc logs
[20:34] <Meapak> wait no
[20:34] <Jimbo> I'm not going to bring this up for a little while.
[20:34] <Meapak> syllo and mig were going to run together
[20:34] <Meapak> Make sure you catch that
[20:34] <Jimbo> Because I want the web to spread as far as I can get it.
[20:34] <Jimbo> Yeah,
[20:34] <Jimbo> I got that
[20:34] <Meapak> ok
[20:34] <Jimbo> Sandro was endorsign that.
[20:34] <Meapak> you probably have a lot more info than i do tbh
[20:35] <Jimbo> Right, But again,
[20:35] <Meapak> I haven't been as active as I'd like
[20:35] <Jimbo> It's the info that I don't have that i need, obviously.
[20:35] <Meapak> ugh
[20:35] <Meapak> I want to trust you
[20:35] <Meapak> we could trade info
[20:36] <Jimbo> Don't.
[20:36] <Jimbo> Not yet.
[20:36] <Jimbo> It's tempting, and I've fallen for it before,
[20:36] <Meapak> let's let a day or so go by
[20:36] <Jimbo> But any infor you give me can at LEAST wait till night.
[20:36] <Jimbo> Because I don't think I'll get lynched.
[20:36] <Meapak> in the meantime I'll pump radfield some more
[20:36] <Jimbo> And I doubt you will either.
[20:36] <Jimbo> Awesome.
[20:36] <Meapak> well I'll announce my candidacy and meantion I'm inventor
[20:37] <Meapak> that'll stop me from getting lynched
[20:37] <Jimbo> Lol,
[20:37] <Jimbo> Just make sure it's believable.
[20:37] <Meapak> yeah
[20:37] <Meapak> I'll do it very "reluctantly"
[20:37] <Jimbo> mafia have laready shown themselves capable of calling bluffs.
[20:38] <Meapak> yeah
[20:38] <Jimbo> make a machine that will dt check you, and only you.
[20:38] <Jimbo> Then claim Bill Murry.
[20:38] <Jimbo> =D
[20:38] <Meapak> looool
[20:39] <Meapak> I'd be down
[20:39] <Meapak> I still think I need an award as the person who modkilled bm the second time
[20:39] <Meapak> in my first game as cohost
[20:40] <Jimbo> hahahaha
[20:40] <Jimbo> Epic modkill.

Drkbane: hey
Drkbane: finally got this account verified so i can talk
Meapak_Ziphh: one sec, I'm gonna have to visit the thread to figure out who this is lol
Drkbane: grey
Meapak_Ziphh: oh ok cool
Meapak_Ziphh: day post is up... you're dead
Drkbane: for serious
Meapak_Ziphh: JKJK
Drkbane: haha
Meapak_Ziphh: sorry
Meapak_Ziphh: I had too
Drkbane: lol
Drkbane: you have tf2?
Meapak_Ziphh: yeah
Meapak_Ziphh: not on this comp though
Drkbane: want to learn me it?
Drkbane: ah ok
Meapak_Ziphh: LOL
Meapak_Ziphh: I'm the wrong person to ask
Meapak_Ziphh: I suuuuuuck at tf2
Meapak_Ziphh: just play as a heavy
Meapak_Ziphh: right click to charge up your gun
Drkbane: i play a medic
Meapak_Ziphh: left to fire when you see badies
Drkbane: :D
Meapak_Ziphh: oh lol
Meapak_Ziphh: if you're a medic then just heal the heavies
Drkbane: haha
Drkbane: i just heal whoever needs the healing
Meapak_Ziphh: 'scuuuse me
Meapak_Ziphh: as a heavy
Meapak_Ziphh: I demand healings
Meapak_Ziphh: whenever I want
Drkbane: well shit
Meapak_Ziphh: day post is up
Meapak_Ziphh: holy shit
Meapak_Ziphh: three red kills
Meapak_Ziphh: plus two blue kills
Meapak_Ziphh: for real
Drkbane: well me and my little pm group were 2 for 2 on reads
Drkbane: it seems
Drkbane: :D
Meapak_Ziphh: nice!
Meapak_Ziphh: time to reread the thread
Meapak_Ziphh: ok today I'm gonna try and get either hiro protagonist or heist lynched
Meapak_Ziphh: both have been pretty scummy in the thread
Drkbane: those are both good targets to look into for today
Meapak_Ziphh: I have to ask you something
Drkbane: what
Meapak_Ziphh: did you tell anyone I was rock star?
Meapak_Ziphh: with so much KP, I find it hard thinking I took a hit
Meapak_Ziphh: which was what I was trying to do
Drkbane: this is a bit less than i was expecting
Drkbane: was bumatlarge your other one>
Drkbane: ?
Meapak_Ziphh: no
Meapak_Ziphh: but did you tell anyone?
Drkbane: hmm interesting
Meapak_Ziphh: people know who I didn't want to know
Drkbane: i indicated that you roleclaimed to me in a PM
Drkbane: before you claimed inventor
Drkbane: i didnt tell that to people who were scummy
Meapak_Ziphh: did you indicate what what I claimed?
Drkbane: no
Meapak_Ziphh: ok
Drkbane: seems like your other gaurd is not as tight lipped though
Meapak_Ziphh: I need to talk to him
Drkbane: becuase some people had ideas that you were RS
Drkbane: dont think too much about it though. they only claimed to people who i honeslty would have claimed to as well
Meapak_Ziphh: I've been pm'd about it by people I really don't trust
Drkbane: i think your little "slip" that you were inventor was too obvious of a fake
Meapak_Ziphh: that's how one person claimed to know
Meapak_Ziphh: they just "figured it out"
Meapak_Ziphh: but they also figured out who the real inventor is
Meapak_Ziphh: which I gave ZERO clues to
Drkbane: a real inventor would have either laid low, or full out claimed and tried to be as active as possible
Drkbane: you did neither, so
Drkbane: so you know the other inventor?
Meapak_Ziphh: yeah, and I was going to try and be as active as possiible but shit happened saturday
Drkbane: sry if you told me that already
Meapak_Ziphh: yeah I know him
Drkbane: how?
Drkbane: did you guys plan picks before?
Meapak_Ziphh: here's what happened
Meapak_Ziphh: I really didn't want inventor to go somewhere town couldn't find it
Meapak_Ziphh: I took someone higher up on the picking list who I felt comfortable with
Meapak_Ziphh: and approached them with the plan that I would take rock star and try to draw hits and they would take inventor
Meapak_Ziphh: if they were scum and let inventor slip to a teammate I'd just out them and lynch them
Meapak_Ziphh: if they were town, I would have succeded in protecting the inventor indefinetly
Drkbane: how would you indentify that they did not take inventor?
Meapak_Ziphh: they wouldn't make me what I wanted
Meapak_Ziphh: I would claim to make stuff and they would have to make it for me
Meapak_Ziphh: and it worked
Drkbane: well i mean he doesnt know that you are town either
Meapak_Ziphh: there's no risk for him though
Meapak_Ziphh: if he dies night one
Drkbane: of course its unlikely for scum to approach you with that plan
Meapak_Ziphh: he was supposed to have a safe person to tell
Meapak_Ziphh: and if he died
Drkbane: well the other concern is that he is just making you what you want to mislead you
Meapak_Ziphh: they would lynch me
Meapak_Ziphh: yes
Drkbane: and will try to convince you later to do what he wasnts
Drkbane: wants*
Meapak_Ziphh: but even still the inventions can't lie
Drkbane: all i can say is just let someone know the second he tries to not do what you want
Drkbane: because that will most likely be scum trying to make an excuse to fufill a scum agenda
Meapak_Ziphh: yes
Meapak_Ziphh: god this is fucked up
Meapak_Ziphh: fuck
Meapak_Ziphh: ok
Meapak_Ziphh: I'm feeling comfortable with you
Meapak_Ziphh: I need to talk to my other bg
Drkbane: see why people wanted me elected?
Drkbane: lol
Meapak_Ziphh: lol
Drkbane: in any case
Drkbane: prp brought up an interesting point
Meapak_Ziphh: in the thread?
Drkbane: yea
Drkbane: kita got roleswap at 23 on draft list
Drkbane: oh and i just realized something mighty interesting
Meapak_Ziphh: what does Jackal mean about hiro being NRA
Drkbane: not sure how much i can reveal atm
Meapak_Ziphh: if you don't trust me at this point I completely understand lol
Drkbane: i think you could obviously be more pro town, but in honeslty if you were scum trying to do the plan you are doing, there are much more simple ways to do it
Drkbane: like just pick NRA
Drkbane: of course you didnt, and you ran the risk of bodygaurds looking into you closely
Meapak_Ziphh: yeah
Meapak_Ziphh: I should have told you this whole plan right off the bat though
Drkbane: doesnt matter really
Meapak_Ziphh: so you would either buy into it or if something went really wrong I could lynch you
Meapak_Ziphh: but now I have no idea where the leak came from
Meapak_Ziphh: since I didn't start with evrything on the table
Drkbane: anyway, i trust you enough with this
Drkbane: and regarding the leak, it might have come from me or the other bodygaurd. like i implied, i had to indicated to some degree that i knew your role. and people might have made educated guesses
Meapak_Ziphh: I don't think it came from you
Drkbane: anyways, onto the interesting thing
Drkbane: it is in regards to foolishness
Meapak_Ziphh: do I need to give an opinion on him before we continue?
Drkbane: not really, but go ahead
Meapak_Ziphh: foolishness has lurked suuuper hard this game and as someone of his caliber I would have expected more out of him
Meapak_Ziphh: I don't really know what this means since he's been town and scum under the same playing style but if he's town I'd have thought he'd be more out in the open
Meapak_Ziphh: so final verdict is I am suspicious of him
Meapak_Ziphh: oh
Meapak_Ziphh: and I've heard that he thinks something is "off" with me this game
Drkbane: alright here is what i have discovered so far about him due to the flip
Drkbane: still working on the interpretation
Drkbane: right after we all got our roles, foolishness told me he tried to go for puppeteer but it failed
Drkbane: chaoser just flipped puppeteer, and he is before foolishness in the draft order
Meapak_Ziphh: so foolishness could have been telling the truth
Meapak_Ziphh: or knew it had already been taken
Drkbane: right
Drkbane: if he is lying about that statement, he is for sure on the same team as chaoser
Drkbane: and knew it would be safe to claim it had been taken
Drkbane: doesnt tell me as much as i initally thought it would
Drkbane: becuase i keep forgetting there are multiple teams
Drkbane: but its still sometihng
Meapak_Ziphh: ok
Meapak_Ziphh: notice I just claimed rb'd in the thread
Meapak_Ziphh: that is because the retarded inventor forgot to send in an invention
Meapak_Ziphh: It is verifiable that no invention has been made
Meapak_Ziphh: otherwise there would be something in the day post
Meapak_Ziphh: my concern now is that the inventor is scum and is trying to avvoid inventing
Meapak_Ziphh: please don't say anything in the thread yet
Meapak_Ziphh: I need to talk with some people
Drkbane: tnow i
Drkbane: why the fuck
Drkbane: did it type backwards
Drkbane: i wont
Meapak_Ziphh: lol
Meapak_Ziphh: fuck my life
Meapak_Ziphh: god
Drkbane: haha have fun
Drkbane: ill just sit here bodygaurding
Meapak_Ziphh: lol
Meapak_Ziphh: holy shit I just realized
Meapak_Ziphh: I didn't die n1
Meapak_Ziphh: first time in like 4 games lol
Drkbane: nice
Meapak_Ziphh: wow
Meapak_Ziphh: bum got vanilla at 11
Meapak_Ziphh: wonder what he went for
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Drkbane: idk
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[19:49] <Kenpachi> Meeeaaapaaak
[19:49] <Kenpachi> What have you been up to?
[19:49] <Meapak> My favorite body bag!
[19:49] <Meapak> lots of shit
[19:49] <Kenpachi> coo coo
[19:49] <Meapak> I have a math midterm tuesday and I had shit on saturday
[19:49] <Meapak> anyway how's your life?
[19:50] <Kenpachi> lol, sucks to be you.
[19:50] <Kenpachi> Busy, but can't complain.
[19:50] <Meapak> -_-
[19:50] <Meapak> thats good
[19:51] <Meapak> so who are you looking at for the lynch tomorrow?
[19:52] <Kenpachi> Hmm.
[19:52] <Kenpachi> There are a few people that wouldn't be bad.
[19:53] <Kenpachi> Scumdroba dissapeared.
[19:53] <Kenpachi> he might be good
[19:54] <Kenpachi> Syllo too, actually.
[19:54] <Kenpachi> lol
[19:54] <Meapak> yeah I can see that
[19:54] <Meapak> what about heist?
[19:55] <Kenpachi> I donno,
[19:55] <Kenpachi> tbh,
[19:55] <Kenpachi> I skimmed over the case against him.
[19:55] <Meapak> It's decent
[19:55] <Kenpachi> Cause I wanted to see the day post,
[19:55] <Meapak> me too
[19:55] <Kenpachi> Who are you looking at?
[19:56] <Meapak> well tbh
[19:56] <Meapak> I'm gonna take a long hard look at bumatlarge
[19:56] <Meapak> his play fits his scum meta to a T atm
[19:57] <Kenpachi> Lol, what play?
[19:57] <Meapak> exactly
[19:57] <Meapak> take a look at drh's minigame
[19:57] <Meapak> he's playing nearly identical
[19:58] <Kenpachi> Lurk, sheep vote, lurk?
[19:58] <Kenpachi> Or,
[19:58] <Kenpachi> Guess his first vote wasn't sheeping,
[19:58] <Kenpachi> But the other one was.
[19:59] <Meapak> day post in one minute
[20:03] <Meapak> oh wow
[20:03] <Meapak> guess bum was town
[20:03] <Kenpachi> Wow.
[20:03] <Kenpachi> That...
[20:03] <Kenpachi> Went pretty well I think
[20:09] <Meapak> hmmm
[20:09] <Meapak> my reads just got shot to shit
[20:10] <Kenpachi> Which reads?
[20:11] <Kenpachi> Did you think that Chaoser was town?
[20:11] <Kenpachi> Or just Bum?
[20:12] <Meapak> just that bum was scum
[20:34] <Kenpachi> So...What happened to the invention?
[20:36] <Meapak> roleblocked -_-
[20:37] <Kenpachi> Smart move, really
[20:37] <Kenpachi> Since medics were probably on you.
[20:37] <Meapak> yeah, it still sucks though
[20:37] <Kenpachi> Suck balls
[20:37] <Meapak> we could have checked the mig list
[20:37] <Kenpachi> Yeah

[18:57] <Wiggles> Hey, you should post more.
[18:58] <Meapak> yeah
[18:58] <Meapak> I'm gonna try too tomorrow
[18:58] <Meapak> I was gone for most of saturday so I didn't really get an oppertunity to influence the mayor election
[18:58] <Meapak> anyway
[18:59] <Meapak> how about dat bumatlarge?
[18:59] <Wiggles> lol, yeah
[18:59] <Wiggles> Lurking like a boss.
[18:59] <Meapak> Unless something by the way of dt checks or something comes up I'm gunning for him tomorrow
[19:00] <Meapak> his play is identical to drh's minigame
[19:00] <Wiggles> I'd agree.
[19:00] <Wiggles> He's really not playing like town right now,
[19:01] <Wiggles> And someone like him shouldn have been allowed to get this far with doing so little.
[19:01] <Meapak> I understand why people want to go after heist but from a personal perspective I have no idea what his meta is so I'm gonna wait a bit there
[19:01] <Meapak> yup
[19:02] <Wiggles> Lol, what about dropbear?
[19:02] <Meapak> he wants to kill me
[19:02] <Meapak> basically because I said if I was elected I'd kill him
[19:02] <Meapak> I think Chaoser(?) sums it up nicely
[19:02] <Meapak> aka I'd be fine to lynch him
[19:03] <Wiggles> Yeh.
[19:03] <Wiggles> Hopefully vig's catch on to him and kill him tonight.
[19:03] <Meapak> dropbear's one saving grace is ironically just how retarded his play has been
[19:03] <Meapak> yeah
[19:04] <Wiggles> Honestly, I don't know how chaoser didn't get lynched yesterday
[19:04] <Meapak> wait you think he should have been lynched?
[19:04] <Wiggles> Uh...He looks pretty dang scummy.
[19:05] <Meapak> I agree to a certain extent but I though there were way better targets
[19:05] <Wiggles> Really?
[19:05] <Wiggles> It actually made me suspicious of Rad that he didn't lynch him.
[19:05] <Meapak> I thought his case against heist was good
[19:06] <Meapak> I was surprised when rad didn't lynch heist
[19:06] <Wiggles> Lol,
[19:06] <Wiggles> Just becaues someone brings up a good case against scum,
[19:06] <Wiggles> Doesn't mean that they themselves aren't scum.
[19:06] <Meapak> regardless, node was a lucky lynch and I kinda doubt it'll be that easy again
[19:06] <Meapak> yeah
[19:07] <Meapak> you're right
[19:07] <Meapak> I keep forgetting that
[19:07] <Wiggles> Heh, you never know. it's still more mafia then town
[19:07] <Wiggles> Random chance and all, we might hit another one if they aren't active about redirecting stuff.
[19:07] <Meapak> it's gonna be interesting to see how much kp is out there
[19:08] <Wiggles> Yeah.
[19:08] <Wiggles> Lol,
[19:08] <Meapak> 50 minutes to go
[19:08] <Wiggles> And how good medics and such are.
[19:08] <Meapak> I have this sinking feeliing I'm gonna have my role stolen lol
[19:09] <Wiggles> Well you did claim...
[19:09] <Meapak> yeah but at the start of the day I thought I'd be active enough to mount a real campaign
[19:09] <Meapak> plus I assumed most people would guess I'd gone for it
[19:10] <Wiggles> ?
[19:10] <Meapak> as the number one spot
[19:10] <Wiggles> Oh yeah.
[19:10] <Wiggles> Right.
[19:11] <Meapak> ugh wbg really pisses me off
[19:11] <Meapak> he's just really abbrassive
[19:11] <Wiggles> Yeah.
[19:12] <Wiggles> He made some good points about Sandroba when that came up,
[19:12] <Wiggles> But abbrasive is the right word.
[19:15] <Meapak> lol what do you think of prplhz
[19:16] <Wiggles> I don't know to be honest.
[19:16] <Wiggles> He's been quiet,
[19:16] <Meapak> all I know is I'm pretty sure I modkilled him in the game I hosted
[19:17] <Wiggles> Lol, a current game?
[19:25] <Meapak> it was a few months ago
[19:25] <Meapak> man
[19:25] <Meapak> do you watch football?
[19:27] Channel names begin with # (corrected automatically).
[19:28] <Wiggles> Not much, no.
[19:28] <Meapak> ah
[19:28] <Meapak> chibears vs viks on monday night
[19:28] <Meapak> devon hester is an absolute beast
[19:29] <Meapak> just had his millionth td kickoff return
[19:29] <Wiggles> Nice!
[19:29] <Wiggles> Dude, how long has he been playing?
[19:30] <Meapak> idk
[19:30] <Meapak> he's been in the league for a while
[19:30] <Meapak> he had a kickoff return in the superbowl a few years ago
[19:30] <Meapak> Hester, Josh Cribbs, and Ted Ginn are amazing to watch
[19:31] <Meapak> oh a Lesean McCoy but I hate the eagles so...
[19:31] <Meapak> *and
[20:03] <Meapak> wow...
[20:03] == No such nick: Wiggles

[20:58] <Meapak> good sir
[20:59] <Meapak> you have been strangely silent this game
[20:59] <Meapak> what gives?
[21:22] <Foolishness> no sir
[21:22] <Foolishness> I assure you there's more to me than you think
[21:22] <Meapak> fascinating sir
[21:23] <Foolishness> yes sir, you wouldn't believe it actually
[21:23] <Foolishness> although the night kills bummed me out a bit
[21:24] <Meapak> why?
[21:24] <Foolishness> dropbear put his bomb on cyber cheese
[21:24] <Meapak> I'll admit I was surprised bum flipped town
[21:24] <Foolishness> alas a waste!
[21:24] <Meapak> Oh I see now
[21:24] <Meapak> well that would have been an epic bomb
[21:24] <Foolishness> yes, unfortunately cyber was killed by other means, which I'm still figuring out
[21:25] <Meapak> wow foolishness
[21:26] <Meapak> way to just shut me up lol
[21:26] <Foolishness> hm?
[21:26] <Foolishness> lol what do you mean?
[21:26] <Meapak> I'm not bugging you about not paying attention anymore
[21:26] <Meapak> you're clearly on top of things
[21:27] <Foolishness> ahh yes
[21:27] <Foolishness> if you need to know anything else I may know
[21:27] <Foolishness> there's probably quite a bit else I could shut you up with
[21:27] <Foolishness> =D
[21:27] <Meapak> I have no doubt
[21:28] <Foolishness> but you know
[21:28] <Foolishness> you can't claim to be roleblocked forever
[21:28] <Meapak> I'm eager to hear
[21:28] <Meapak> what all do you know about me?
[21:28] <Foolishness> I know you're not the inventor
[21:28] <Foolishness> which means there probably isn't an inventor in this game
[21:29] <Meapak> The reason I'm not the inventor
[21:29] <Meapak> was to protect it
[21:29] <Meapak> I'm fairly sure there is an inventor
[21:29] <Meapak> and if there's not
[21:29] <Foolishness> no invention in the day post?
[21:29] <Meapak> I have caught a scum
[21:29] <Meapak> my friend
[21:30] <Meapak> I know you are suspicious of me
[21:30] <Meapak> I must say the feeling is mutual
[21:30] <Meapak> I still trust the inventor
[21:30] <Foolishness> errr
[21:30] <Foolishness> why isn't there an invention in teh day post?
[21:31] <Meapak> The inventor has given me a reason for that
[21:31] <Meapak> I'll let it pass once
[21:31] <Foolishness> o.O
[21:32] <Foolishness> that implies the reason is sketchy? lol
[21:32] <Meapak> foolishness I take back what I said earlier
[21:32] <Meapak> you need to expand your PM circle
[21:32] <Meapak> I think a lot of people don't think I'm the inventor
[21:32] <Meapak> but there are people who found out who it is
[21:33] <Foolishness> if I said I knew your actual role would that suffice? lol
[21:33] <Meapak> I bet you do know my role
[21:33] <Foolishness> or is that common knowledge as well?
[21:33] <Meapak> I don't know
[21:33] <Meapak> some people know
[21:33] <Meapak> some people I told
[21:33] <Meapak> someone know because somewhere in my plan there is a scum
[21:34] <Meapak> I just need to find out where
[21:34] <Foolishness> somewhere in your plan there is scum?
[21:34] <Meapak> that's my guess
[21:34] <Meapak> since things fell apart so fast
[21:34] <Meapak> what role am I?
[21:34] <Foolishness> rockstar
[21:35] <Meapak> yeah
[21:35] <Meapak> so the leaks could come from my bgs
[21:35] <Meapak> the inventor
[21:35] <Meapak> so far the list of people who I know have figured it out is around 4
[21:35] <Foolishness> are you able to tell me what alerted you to the fact there's a leak?
[21:35] <Meapak> someone pm'd me calling me out
[21:36] <Meapak> up till that point I was fairly certain
[21:36] <Foolishness> err what kinda of call out
[21:36] <Foolishness> like
[21:36] <Foolishness> YOUR FOOL YOUR NOT THE INVENTOR IMMA KILL YO ASS
[21:36] <Meapak> he named my role
[21:36] <Meapak> even worse
[21:36] <Meapak> here's the thing
[21:36] <Meapak> I'm pretty sure the inventor is town
[21:36] <Meapak> there's really no reason for a mafia to do what he's done with me
[21:37] <Meapak> there's too much uncertainty involved
[21:37] <Foolishness> so that means a bodyguard is mafia?
[21:37] <Meapak> and in this game 1 1 trades aren't good
[21:37] <Meapak> yes
[21:37] <Foolishness> hummm okay
[21:37] <Meapak> and judging from the person who PM'd me I think I know which one
[21:37] <Meapak> plus I already talked to the other one tonight
[21:37] <Foolishness> hmmm
[21:38] <Meapak> not only did he mention being part of a town circle which netter a scum kill but I had a townie read on him since late day 1
[21:38] <Meapak> however
[21:38] <Meapak> I haven't talked to my other bg yet
[21:38] <Foolishness> wait wait
[21:38] <Meapak> yes yes?
[21:38] <Foolishness> which scum kill?
[21:38] <Foolishness> do you know?
[21:38] <Foolishness> because I know how chaoser died
[21:38] <Meapak> he chose not to tell me
[21:39] <Meapak> we trust each other but we're not stupid
[21:39] <Foolishness> hmm
[21:39] <Foolishness> well I know how chaoser died
[21:39] <Foolishness> I knew that cheese was mafia in the same family as him
[21:39] <Foolishness> chaoser died from Radfield
[21:40] <Foolishness> (whether Radfield performed the actual hit or not, I don't know, but he ordered it)
[21:40] <Meapak> are you sure it was rad personally
[21:40] <Meapak> yeah
[21:40] <Foolishness> yeah
[21:40] <Foolishness> it's very possible that the Radfield group knew that cheese was his mafia buddy
[21:40] <Foolishness> but
[21:40] <Foolishness> that information came from my group
[21:40] <Meapak> clever of radfield to not kill chaoser by the lynch
[21:40] <Foolishness> err it would have necessarily come from my group
[21:40] <Foolishness> apparently whoever is dreamflower shot chaoser
[21:41] <Meapak> mkay
[21:41] <Foolishness> the chaoser kill was also influenced by my group
[21:41] <Foolishness> kitaman is the one mafia I can't explain
[21:41] <Meapak> so in a sense it's one big group?
[21:41] <Foolishness> so if you're BG knows how kitaman died then it's legit, otherwise he probably didn't do anything
[21:42] <Foolishness> the Radfield group is huge
[21:42] <Foolishness> and there's most definitely mafia invovled in that group
[21:42] <Foolishness> involved*
[21:42] <Meapak> wait do you know how bum died?
[21:42] <Foolishness> no I do not
[21:42] <Meapak> I was gonna post a case against him today
[21:42] <Meapak> I was pretty sure he was scum
[21:42] <Meapak> and then he flipped town
[21:42] <Foolishness> most likely the mafia hits were: bum, kitaman, dropbear
[21:42] <Foolishness> at least that makes the most sense
[21:43] <Meapak> db seems like a stupid mafia hit
[21:43] <Meapak> unless they knew chaoser would die
[21:43] <Foolishness> then bum, kitaman, cyber
[21:43] <Foolishness> it's possible they did
[21:43] <Meapak> kita also makes no sense
[21:43] <Foolishness> the Radfield group is not good at keeping secrets
[21:43] <Meapak> and neither does cyber
[21:43] <Foolishness> cyber is at least high up on the list
[21:43] <Meapak> then my guess would be that the inventor secret is gonna be out by the end of today
[21:44] <Foolishness> or as I said, it's possible the Radfield group knew about cyber from us
[21:44] <Foolishness> I don't really care about the inventor, if one of your BGs is mafia that's of utmost importance to me
[21:44] <Meapak> I'll be talking to my other bg sometime tomorrow
[21:45] <Foolishness> k
[21:45] <Meapak> as I said, I'm comfortable with one of them
[21:45] <Meapak> -_-
[21:45] <Meapak> If there was one piece of information you could have most what would it be?
[21:46] <Meapak> I don't want to reveal stuff needlessly
[21:46] <Meapak> but I want to help you
[21:46] <Foolishness> yes
[21:46] <Foolishness> I need to find a mafia from either the Lancester's or the York's
[21:47] <Meapak> isn't kenpachi claiming greymist is york?
[21:47] <Meapak> in the thread
[21:47] <Foolishness> I don't really believe that
[21:47] <Foolishness> err I mean I think greymist is town
[21:47] <Meapak> I do too
[21:48] <Meapak> I'm thinking the decon check is probably correct
[21:48] <Meapak> but I don't know if kenpachi is town either
[21:48] <Foolishness> I think kenpachi is telling the truth
[21:48] <Foolishness> doesn't say anything about deconduo or greymist though
[21:49] <Meapak> framer -_-
[21:49] <Meapak> I'm actually still trying to understand how greymist fits into this
[21:49] <Foolishness> cause greymist asked that mod question
[21:49] <Foolishness> although if he was mafia he probably wouldn't have made it public like that
[21:50] <Meapak> oh ok
[21:50] <Meapak> well I don't beleive that at all
[21:50] <Meapak> that grey mist is scum
[21:51] <Meapak> wait
[21:51] <Meapak> I think kenpachi is lancaster
[21:51] <Meapak> he calls decon tudor
[21:51] <Meapak> calls greymist york
[21:51] <Meapak> he claims he knows decon from the check
[21:51] <Meapak> how does he know greymist?
[21:52] <Foolishness> cause greymist asked that mod question?
[21:52] <Foolishness> I don't know I tend to shake off anything kenpachi says as lolol
[21:57] <Meapak> wait how does he know then?
[21:58] <Meapak> I'm gonna take a showe, back in five or ten
[22:00] <Foolishness> kk
[22:13] <Meapak> back
[22:14] <Foolishness> good
[22:15] <Meapak> how does kenpachi know greymist is york
[22:15] <Foolishness> he doesnt
[22:15] <Meapak> when he's writting the post
[22:15] <Meapak> what is his thought process
[22:15] <Meapak> so if you're kenpachi
[22:15] <Meapak> you think
[22:15] <Meapak> "decon is tudor
[22:15] <Meapak> "
[22:15] <Meapak> and I found another scum
[22:16] <Foolishness> hmmmm
[22:16] <Meapak> what alignment are the"
[22:16] <Meapak> here's what I'm trying to say
[22:16] <Meapak> This is all what he thinks
[22:16] <Meapak> decon is scum tudor
[22:16] <Meapak> greymist is also scum
[22:16] <Meapak> what family is greymist
[22:17] <Meapak> how does he decide york
[22:17] <Meapak> that's the million dollar question
[22:18] <Foolishness> flip a coin? lol
[22:18] <Foolishness> but yeah I see what you mean
[22:18] <Meapak> I'm gonna reread his post
[22:19] <Foolishness> I mean his posting is very spontaneous
[22:19] <Meapak> yeah
[22:19] <Meapak> but that lends credibility
[22:19] <Meapak> he's not thinking what a huge scumtell it is
[22:22] <Meapak> gonna ask him in the thread
[22:22] <Foolishness> nuke's off
[22:23] <Meapak> um
[22:23] <Meapak> didn't america die?
[22:23] <Foolishness> copycat ")
[22:23] <Foolishness>
[22:23] <Foolishness> **
[22:23] <Meapak> oh wow
[22:23] <Meapak> gosu play
[22:26] <Meapak> this is great
[22:26] <Meapak> it means we don't waste a day lynching decon
[22:31] <Meapak> his response
[22:31] <Meapak> "because kitaman was a york"
[22:31] <Foolishness> this makes no sense lol
[22:32] <Meapak> I know
[22:40] <Meapak> hang on
[22:41] <Meapak> kenpachi might be right
[22:41] <Meapak> well
[22:41] <Meapak> his logic flows
[22:41] <Meapak> wait
[22:41] <Meapak> nvm
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[22:58] <Foolishness> hmm I feel that you should know some information
[22:58] <Foolishness> about me
[22:59] <Foolishness> I'm vanilla
[22:59] <Foolishness> and I tried to pick the puppeteer role
[22:59] <Foolishness> whatever face value you want to take that as is fine by me
[22:59] <Foolishness> but it should make sense in the near future why I tried to take that role
[22:59] <Foolishness> and it wasn't for the same reasons that chaoser took it
[23:01] <Foolishness> I need to sleep now so I will ttyl
[23:02] <Meapak> alright
[23:02] == No such nick: Foolishness

[10/14/2011 6:26:36 PM] Meapak Ziphh: Hi sandro.maculan! I’d like to add you on Skype. Meapak Ziphh
[10/14/2011 6:26:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: Sandro Maculan has shared contact details with Meapak Ziphh.
[10/14/2011 6:26:50 PM] Sandro Maculan: hey
[10/14/2011 6:27:17 PM] Meapak Ziphh: hey
[10/14/2011 6:27:32 PM] Meapak Ziphh: can you please explain this whole mess with Mig and Syllo?
[10/14/2011 6:27:41 PM] Sandro Maculan: yes
[10/14/2011 6:27:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: what do you want to know
[10/14/2011 6:27:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: specifically
[10/14/2011 6:28:21 PM] Meapak Ziphh: why will syllo follow mig to the moon
[10/14/2011 6:28:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: for starters
[10/14/2011 6:28:35 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and why won't they release skype logs
[10/14/2011 6:28:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: let me just ask you
[10/14/2011 6:29:10 PM] Sandro Maculan: do you think syllo is town from that log of me and him
[10/14/2011 6:29:14 PM] Meapak Ziphh: no
[10/14/2011 6:29:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: exactly
[10/14/2011 6:29:22 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but not only from that log
[10/14/2011 6:29:26 PM] Sandro Maculan: that only means something
[10/14/2011 6:29:28 PM] Meapak Ziphh: there are other logs people have posted
[10/14/2011 6:29:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: to someone who you know well
[10/14/2011 6:29:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: and have meta from previous game
[10/14/2011 6:29:53 PM] Sandro Maculan: me/syllo/mig know each other pretty well
[10/14/2011 6:29:59 PM] Meapak Ziphh: right
[10/14/2011 6:30:13 PM] Sandro Maculan: and I know he wouldn't do that as mafia on that spot
[10/14/2011 6:30:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: you played personality where I could pm people
[10/14/2011 6:30:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: he lurked heavily on skype
[10/14/2011 6:31:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: talked to me the bare minimum
[10/14/2011 6:31:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: and even considered suicide bombing me night one because of the pressure
[10/14/2011 6:31:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: he couldn't lie, he dodged and avoided questions
[10/14/2011 6:32:23 PM] Sandro Maculan: I mean syllo btw
[10/14/2011 6:32:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: than mig I wasn't sure at first
[10/14/2011 6:32:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: but I hadn't talked to him a lot earlier
[10/14/2011 6:33:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: and syllo was pretty sure he was town
[10/14/2011 6:33:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: but right now
[10/14/2011 6:33:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm confident as fuck he is town
[10/14/2011 6:33:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: from skype convos
[10/14/2011 6:34:19 PM] Meapak Ziphh: ok skpe decided to die
[10/14/2011 6:34:23 PM] Meapak Ziphh: sorry
[10/14/2011 6:34:26 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lemme read this
[10/14/2011 6:34:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: did you get my msgs?
[10/14/2011 6:34:46 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:34:48 PM] Meapak Ziphh: just read them
[10/14/2011 6:35:04 PM] Meapak Ziphh: ugh
[10/14/2011 6:35:12 PM] Meapak Ziphh: there's one thing I hate doing
[10/14/2011 6:35:23 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it's blind faith
[10/14/2011 6:35:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's not blind
[10/14/2011 6:35:30 PM] Meapak Ziphh: from me
[10/14/2011 6:35:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: from me
[10/14/2011 6:35:39 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's based on analysis
[10/14/2011 6:35:42 PM] Sandro Maculan: well yeah
[10/14/2011 6:35:43 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yes
[10/14/2011 6:35:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: you should talk to them
[10/14/2011 6:35:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: too
[10/14/2011 6:35:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: analysis which you had experience collecting
[10/14/2011 6:36:02 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I don't have the same frame you do
[10/14/2011 6:36:18 PM] Meapak Ziphh: if syllo said to me what he said to you I'd be ready o lynch him now
[10/14/2011 6:36:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: well yeah
[10/14/2011 6:36:35 PM] Sandro Maculan: I have no such strong read on other players
[10/14/2011 6:37:02 PM] Sandro Maculan: hmm well you guys have no raport
[10/14/2011 6:37:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: taht makes no sense to say to another player
[10/14/2011 6:37:34 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:37:41 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I understand that
[10/14/2011 6:37:49 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and I understand why you think he's town
[10/14/2011 6:37:54 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and I respect your read
[10/14/2011 6:37:58 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but put yourself in my shoes
[10/14/2011 6:38:19 PM] Meapak Ziphh: to an outsider that looks like lynchable material
[10/14/2011 6:38:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: It's very hard for me just to take someone's word because of previous meta
[10/14/2011 6:38:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: that would be stupid as fuck to do as mafia
[10/14/2011 6:38:50 PM] Sandro Maculan: though lol
[10/14/2011 6:38:55 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what would
[10/14/2011 6:39:05 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what syllo did?
[10/14/2011 6:39:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: what he is doing
[10/14/2011 6:39:24 PM] Sandro Maculan: what mig is doing
[10/14/2011 6:39:32 PM] Meapak Ziphh: true and true
[10/14/2011 6:39:41 PM] Sandro Maculan: tieing themselves toghether this early
[10/14/2011 6:39:44 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but it's the same thing with dropbear
[10/14/2011 6:40:03 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I got an angry pm from him when I said I'd lynch him because I thought he claimed scum
[10/14/2011 6:40:26 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I didn't read his post close enough, but he'd done enough earlier shananegins with framer that I was already suspicious of him
[10/14/2011 6:40:35 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he used the "that would be retarded as mafia" line
[10/14/2011 6:40:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: dropbear is doing retarded shit despite alignment
[10/14/2011 6:40:58 PM] Sandro Maculan: but he was trying to get attention
[10/14/2011 6:41:10 PM] Meapak Ziphh: idk what his problem is
[10/14/2011 6:41:22 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but it's things like that which make me nervous
[10/14/2011 6:41:37 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I don't like letting people get away with "that'd be retarded as mafia"
[10/14/2011 6:42:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: well that normally works though
[10/14/2011 6:42:17 PM] Sandro Maculan: like mafia doesn't do random shit
[10/14/2011 6:42:25 PM] Sandro Maculan: that pulls a ton of suspicion
[10/14/2011 6:42:27 PM] Sandro Maculan: for no reason
[10/14/2011 6:42:35 PM] Meapak Ziphh: well I beg to differ... RoL...
[10/14/2011 6:42:37 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:42:38 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol
[10/14/2011 6:42:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: I was pretty convinced he was scum
[10/14/2011 6:42:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: in Insane 2?
[10/14/2011 6:42:56 PM] Sandro Maculan: when he claimed to be picking framer
[10/14/2011 6:43:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: no I mean dropbear
[10/14/2011 6:43:06 PM] Meapak Ziphh: oh db
[10/14/2011 6:43:08 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:43:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: to me it seemed like a mafia trying to explain a future rolechekc
[10/14/2011 6:43:36 PM] Sandro Maculan: I made a post to why there is no townie reasoning to doing that
[10/14/2011 6:43:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: especially on his # and even more so claim that you are doing it
[10/14/2011 6:44:08 PM] Sandro Maculan: but when I thought about it
[10/14/2011 6:44:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: it seemed retarded from a mafia angle aswel
[10/14/2011 6:44:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:44:35 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol
[10/14/2011 6:44:41 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what do you think of radfeild?
[10/14/2011 6:44:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm leaning town right now
[10/14/2011 6:45:00 PM] Sandro Maculan: but not as strongly as syllo/mig
[10/14/2011 6:45:11 PM] Sandro Maculan: but between the other candidates
[10/14/2011 6:45:27 PM] Sandro Maculan: I would rather it be him than the others
[10/14/2011 6:45:42 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I think he's town too
[10/14/2011 6:45:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: if syllo/mig is not possible
[10/14/2011 6:45:53 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but I think he's doing a pisspoor job leading it
[10/14/2011 6:46:11 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he reminds me of drh where drh was constantly second guessing himself
[10/14/2011 6:46:14 PM] Sandro Maculan: well right now
[10/14/2011 6:46:17 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he just pulled his second 180
[10/14/2011 6:46:25 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I don't think changing your mind makes you scum
[10/14/2011 6:46:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: people seem confused about the me/syllo/mig deal
[10/14/2011 6:46:38 PM] Sandro Maculan: and I'm sure scum are riding it
[10/14/2011 6:46:44 PM] Sandro Maculan: since there are plenty
[10/14/2011 6:46:46 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but it doesn't make you a good decider of the first lynch
[10/14/2011 6:46:49 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and yeah I agree with that
[10/14/2011 6:46:52 PM] Sandro Maculan: and radfield is suportig us
[10/14/2011 6:46:56 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it's a perfect wedge issue
[10/14/2011 6:46:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: so yeah
[10/14/2011 6:47:25 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what do you think about jimbo?
[10/14/2011 6:47:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm pretty sure he is scum
[10/14/2011 6:47:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: look at the page he acuses me
[10/14/2011 6:48:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: and see him back pedalling when I call him out on his poor logic
[10/14/2011 6:48:14 PM] Meapak Ziphh: which one?
[10/14/2011 6:48:27 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'll find it gimme a sec
[10/14/2011 6:49:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&currentpage=29
[10/14/2011 6:49:42 PM] Meapak Ziphh: boy though, back to rad, he really is doing his best drh impression
[10/14/2011 6:49:48 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he has soooo many post
[10/14/2011 6:50:09 PM] Sandro Maculan: he is pretty much always like that no?
[10/14/2011 6:50:18 PM] Sandro Maculan: at least on the games I've played with him
[10/14/2011 6:50:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: idk I only played pypinsane with him
[10/14/2011 6:51:13 PM] Meapak Ziphh: you know it's interesting
[10/14/2011 6:51:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: well from past experience he is just being radfield
[10/14/2011 6:51:24 PM] Sandro Maculan: he does that despite alignment
[10/14/2011 6:51:25 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I actually agree with a lot of what Jimbo said
[10/14/2011 6:51:28 PM] Meapak Ziphh: the bad part is
[10/14/2011 6:51:34 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he sounds so weak once you start pussing
[10/14/2011 6:51:43 PM] Meapak Ziphh: pushing*
[10/14/2011 6:51:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he brought up some decent points
[10/14/2011 6:52:02 PM] Sandro Maculan: which are
[10/14/2011 6:52:03 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but you pushed back and he almost completely folded
[10/14/2011 6:52:13 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lemme c/p
[10/14/2011 6:52:50 PM] Meapak Ziphh: To quote a conversation I had with Syllo,


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Syllo: that's how mafia tends to work though, people sheep opinions of others.
Jimbo: And you are OK with them sheeping you???
Syllo: Yes. Of course if I want someone elected, I need support .
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This is terrible play. You should NEVER rely on sheep to help you elect people, (to say nothing of the people sheeping). You don’t get a reaction that can help you gauge the situation, you effectively half the information that you should be basing your decisions off of. People NEED to form opinions of their own. Especially this early in the game, NOBODY should be trusting people enough to base decisions as important as mayor on another person. When Sandro and Arcto began saying things like “I trust syllo’s read on Mig” HUGE red flags went up in my head. We haven’t even had a flip/claim/information event yet, and already people trust someone that much!? It doesn’t make sense for smart townies to play this way, and I KNOW that sandro and Syllo are smart players.
[10/14/2011 6:53:13 PM] Meapak Ziphh: at that point, without a lot know yet about you, syllo and company he has a point
[10/14/2011 6:53:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: how so?
[10/14/2011 6:53:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: don't you think scum/town votes on a townie mayor
[10/14/2011 6:53:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: is equaly as valuable right now
[10/14/2011 6:54:09 PM] Sandro Maculan: If I can pummel people down
[10/14/2011 6:54:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: until they give in voting to who I think it's best for town
[10/14/2011 6:54:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: I don't mind at all
[10/14/2011 6:54:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol
[10/14/2011 6:55:01 PM] Meapak Ziphh: sorry had to let my sister in the house
[10/14/2011 6:55:11 PM] Sandro Maculan: or you mean the trust part
[10/14/2011 6:55:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: I did explain that to him previously
[10/14/2011 6:55:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: the trust part and the sheeping part
[10/14/2011 6:55:32 PM] Sandro Maculan: and he told me on that same convo he posted
[10/14/2011 6:55:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: that he may be willing to step down
[10/14/2011 6:55:56 PM] Meapak Ziphh: hmm
[10/14/2011 6:56:14 PM] Meapak Ziphh: well anyway, I understand the "get elected at all costs" mentality
[10/14/2011 6:56:18 PM] Sandro Maculan: of course he could be town lying to try to extract info
[10/14/2011 6:56:30 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but it isn't particularly townie one
[10/14/2011 6:56:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: anyway
[10/14/2011 6:56:37 PM] Meapak Ziphh: this is all kinda moot
[10/14/2011 6:56:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: do you understand that doesn't prevent us from finding scum
[10/14/2011 6:56:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: we just don't want to scare people off
[10/14/2011 6:56:59 PM] Meapak Ziphh: Jimbo's responses to what you said makes his earleier argumetns null
[10/14/2011 6:57:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: of voting afraid of being auto lynched
[10/14/2011 6:57:07 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:57:26 PM] Sandro Maculan: there are 12 freaking scum this game man
[10/14/2011 6:57:32 PM] Meapak Ziphh: you're gonna have problems getting elected
[10/14/2011 6:57:35 PM] Sandro Maculan: you pretty much need scum to vote you
[10/14/2011 6:58:04 PM] Meapak Ziphh: unless you can talk with every single person in the game 1 on 1 people are still gonna be uncomfortable
[10/14/2011 6:58:26 PM] Meapak Ziphh: the only reason I'm not trying to lynch syllo is because of what you've told me
[10/14/2011 6:58:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: I've talked to a fuckton of people
[10/14/2011 6:58:37 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it's gonna take 1on1 explanations
[10/14/2011 6:58:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: ok
[10/14/2011 6:58:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: good
[10/14/2011 6:59:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: read the exchange between wherebugsgo and prhplz and tell me what you think
[10/14/2011 6:59:41 PM] Meapak Ziphh: second to last page
[10/14/2011 6:59:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm caught up
[10/14/2011 7:00:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: well wbg thinks I'm scum
[10/14/2011 7:00:04 PM] Meapak Ziphh: wbg sounds way to defensive
[10/14/2011 7:00:15 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I don't even know where prphlz came from
[10/14/2011 7:00:28 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but wbg got waay to rilled up
[10/14/2011 7:00:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: I think he is suspcious yes
[10/14/2011 7:00:45 PM] Sandro Maculan: but I'm not confident on him
[10/14/2011 7:00:56 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol I'm not saying he's 100% scum
[10/14/2011 7:01:06 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I was just making sure I wasn't the only one seeing something wierd
[10/14/2011 7:01:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: well from our conversations
[10/14/2011 7:01:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: I can tell you that he is not reading the thread carefully
[10/14/2011 7:01:56 PM] Meapak Ziphh: well he's been banned before for inactivity
[10/14/2011 7:02:04 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it wouldn't surprise me if that happens again
[10/14/2011 7:02:07 PM] Sandro Maculan: and refuses to back off when called out on some of his bad logic
[10/14/2011 7:02:20 PM] Meapak Ziphh: oh wait are you talking about wbg?
[10/14/2011 7:02:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: yes
[10/14/2011 7:02:34 PM] Sandro Maculan: who are you talking about
[10/14/2011 7:02:42 PM] Meapak Ziphh: prplhz
[10/14/2011 7:02:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I think I modkilled him in the game I hosted lolol
[10/14/2011 7:02:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: prplhz
[10/14/2011 7:02:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: tbh
[10/14/2011 7:03:07 PM] Sandro Maculan: I don't bother much to read his posts carefully until late game
[10/14/2011 7:03:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: because he doesn't provide much despite alignment
[10/14/2011 7:03:48 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 7:03:56 PM] Sandro Maculan: he can vote for townies to be lynched the whole game
[10/14/2011 7:04:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: without failing
[10/14/2011 7:04:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: and be town in the end
[10/14/2011 7:04:10 PM] Sandro Maculan: easily
[10/14/2011 7:04:23 PM] Sandro Maculan: so I don't eve try to analyse him
[10/14/2011 7:04:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol
[10/14/2011 7:04:27 PM] Meapak Ziphh: ugh
[10/14/2011 7:04:33 PM] Meapak Ziphh: bumatlarge is giving me that feeling he did during drh's mingame
[10/14/2011 7:04:42 PM] Meapak Ziphh: the worst part is
[10/14/2011 7:04:54 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I could dissect his posts and not find anything obviously wrong
[10/14/2011 7:04:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: man
[10/14/2011 7:05:08 PM] Sandro Maculan: like I'm pretty sure mig/syllo are town
[10/14/2011 7:05:15 PM] Sandro Maculan: I think rad is town
[10/14/2011 7:05:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: your inventor shenaningans make you seem town to me
[10/14/2011 7:05:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: as I don't think mafia would bother with that
[10/14/2011 7:06:06 PM] Sandro Maculan: so that leaves
[10/14/2011 7:06:10 PM] Meapak Ziphh: for a second I forgot why you knew and I was like FUCK
[10/14/2011 7:06:13 PM] Sandro Maculan: most other vets
[10/14/2011 7:06:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: as scum
[10/14/2011 7:06:33 PM] Meapak Ziphh: was that an oblique way of agreeing with me on bum
[10/14/2011 7:06:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: like wiggles/chaoser/bum/jimbo etc
[10/14/2011 7:06:45 PM] Sandro Maculan: hahaha yeah
[10/14/2011 7:06:51 PM] Meapak Ziphh: who is jimbo's main
[10/14/2011 7:06:54 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it's driving me nuts
[10/14/2011 7:07:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: I believe it to be kav
[10/14/2011 7:07:09 PM] Meapak Ziphh: really
[10/14/2011 7:07:12 PM] Meapak Ziphh: fascinating
[10/14/2011 7:07:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: well
[10/14/2011 7:07:26 PM] Sandro Maculan: didn't you read the logs?
[10/14/2011 7:07:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: which ones?
[10/14/2011 7:07:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: between me/jimbo
[10/14/2011 7:08:05 PM] Meapak Ziphh: not the entirity
[10/14/2011 7:08:09 PM] Meapak Ziphh: just skimmed it
[10/14/2011 7:08:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: he is pretty much kav or gm
[10/14/2011 7:08:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: well then he's scum
[10/14/2011 7:08:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: and since gm is on the round tabble
[10/14/2011 7:08:50 PM] Meapak Ziphh: because kav is someone who I can almost always tell when he's town
[10/14/2011 7:09:07 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm pretty sure he is
[10/14/2011 7:09:27 PM] Meapak Ziphh: hmmm well I've talked with him a bit
[10/14/2011 7:09:33 PM] Meapak Ziphh: time to put all that in a new context
[10/14/2011 7:09:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: =)
[10/14/2011 7:11:05 PM] Meapak Ziphh: as a complete tangent, I love the GOGO VER @MLG thread
[10/14/2011 7:12:18 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah man
[10/14/2011 7:12:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: ver is pretty baller =P
[10/14/2011 7:12:58 PM] Sandro Maculan: he is a sick nerd baller lol
[10/14/2011 7:12:59 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I played BGH with him, RoL, and foolishness one time
[10/14/2011 7:13:09 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he was like the easy button
[10/14/2011 7:13:20 PM] Meapak Ziphh: one game RoL and I started team killing each other
[10/14/2011 7:13:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: we still facerolled them
[10/14/2011 7:13:35 PM] Sandro Maculan: hahaha
[10/14/2011 7:13:38 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he would have like three bases on BGH
[10/14/2011 7:13:44 PM] Meapak Ziphh: RoL are derping around
[10/14/2011 7:13:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: bgh times man
[10/14/2011 7:13:51 PM] Meapak Ziphh: foolishness is doing his own thing
[10/14/2011 7:13:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: those were the best
[10/14/2011 7:14:02 PM] Sandro Maculan: so much shit talking going on
[10/14/2011 7:14:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: that gif
[10/14/2011 7:14:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: describes it pretty accurately
[10/14/2011 7:14:27 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol
[10/14/2011 7:14:46 PM] Meapak Ziphh: heist lol
[10/14/2011 7:14:54 PM] Meapak Ziphh: we've got a ninja voter
[10/14/2011 7:16:59 PM] Sandro Maculan: heist is on my ignore list too
[10/14/2011 7:17:09 PM] Sandro Maculan: so I don't mind much taht he didn't explain his vote lol
[10/14/2011 7:17:47 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he's on my "most likely gonna get modkilled" list
[10/14/2011 7:19:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: greymist/sinani/hero/heist/prpl
[10/14/2011 7:19:24 PM] Sandro Maculan: those guys are hard to tell appart
[10/14/2011 7:19:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: scum from town
[10/14/2011 7:19:42 PM] Sandro Maculan: they are scummy as fuck no matter what
[10/14/2011 7:19:45 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 7:19:58 PM] Meapak Ziphh: they're all like kenpachi juniors
[10/14/2011 7:20:06 PM] Sandro Maculan: hahaha
[10/14/2011 7:20:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: but kenpachi kinda has his tells
[10/14/2011 7:20:53 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but you can only see them after having played a million games with him
[10/14/2011 7:21:04 PM] Sandro Maculan: I've played like 5
[10/14/2011 7:21:22 PM] Sandro Maculan: I think I can get him right after a couple days
[10/14/2011 7:21:43 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I wonder if he actually took vt
[10/14/2011 7:22:07 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol prob not
[10/14/2011 7:22:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: as scum or town
[10/14/2011 7:22:18 PM] Sandro Maculan: I can't see that happening
[10/14/2011 7:22:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: he just claims vt every game
[10/14/2011 7:22:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: I can't recal him doing it this game though
[10/14/2011 7:24:01 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he already has
[10/14/2011 7:24:05 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he said he'd take it
[10/14/2011 7:24:09 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and then with his mayor post
[10/14/2011 7:24:13 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he put his name in greeen
[10/14/2011 7:26:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: you mean veteran
[10/14/2011 7:26:39 PM] Sandro Maculan: or vanilla
[10/14/2011 7:27:32 PM] Sandro Maculan: doesn't mean anything to me though
[10/14/2011 7:28:10 PM] Meapak Ziphh: vanilla
[10/14/2011 7:31:38 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm off to bed man
[10/14/2011 7:31:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: ttyl
[10/14/2011 7:31:59 PM] Meapak Ziphh: alright
[10/14/2011 7:32:03 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I'm glad we had this talk
[10/14/2011 7:32:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: me too
[10/14/2011 7:32:16 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I feel slightly better about this whole syllo mig thing now
[10/14/2011 7:32:23 PM] Sandro Maculan: =P
[10/14/2011 7:32:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: gnight man
[10/14/2011 7:32:30 PM] Meapak Ziphh: night
[10/15/2011 6:02:23 PM] Meapak Ziphh: sorry man
[10/15/2011 6:02:25 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I can't do it
[10/15/2011 6:03:11 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I'm not gonna blindly take someone else's gut choice over my own
[10/17/2011 9:46:30 PM] Meapak Ziphh: let me guess
[10/17/2011 9:46:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: you had a little talk with palmar
[10/17/2011 9:46:45 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and let slip that you're a bg
[10/17/2011 9:46:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what I'm still trying to find out though is why

[Discussion for PickYourPowerInteresting]
[16:44] <@chaosers> you got bad luck jackal
[16:44] <@derpladee> but that was also ages ago i assume
[16:44] <Jackal58> So sorry I'm not a fan of plans at this point
[16:44] <@derpladee> maybe we've all learned something
[16:44] <Jackal58> Somebody will fuck it all up
[16:45] <Jackal58> Ya right
[16:45] <@jimbosilvers> Jackal: The plan wasn't nearly as stupid as your lynch. Don't just blame the town.
[16:45] <@derpladee> how about revising our plans once we know who gets 1st pick etc
[16:45] <@jimbosilvers> NO
[16:45] <@derpladee> if they're trustworthy then we can go ahead with it
[16:45] <@kitaman27> My plan is to lynch jackal if he refuses to follow a plan
[16:45] <@hiro_pro> lol
[16:45] <@MrWiggles> How do you tell if someone's trusworthy this early, haha?
[16:45] <@derpladee> my plan is to lynch people who lynch people who aren't scum
[16:45] <@derpladee> well jack isn't
[16:45] <@jimbosilvers> Revising picking plans after you draft is a really bad idea.
[16:45] <Jackal58> I'm taking day vig and blowing away kita..
[16:45] <@MrWiggles> mhmm
[16:46] <@MrWiggles> let's switch 2nd and 3rd roles, so my buddy gets the better one!
[16:46] <@jimbosilvers> Because it's super suspetable to meddleing, and the only people who can effectivly meddle, are mafia.
[16:46] <@chaosers> no changing the plan
[16:46] <@derpladee> but kinda, top3 after draft decide if the plan will go through
[16:46] <@chaosers> affter draft is revealed
[16:46] <@derpladee> but you're talking about "we can't change a plan that noone will follow"
[16:46] <@derpladee> that makes no sense
[16:46] <@MrWiggles> huh?
[16:46] <@chaosers> go read previous PYP games please
[16:46] <Jackal58> The problem is the people that say fuck the plan and pick what they want
[16:47] <@MrWiggles> No plans after draft is released, only guidelines
[16:47] <@chaosers> yeah
[16:47] <@chaosers> we're jsut saying top three
[16:47] <@chaosers> pick this shit
[16:47] <@MrWiggles> and even those are kind've sketchy if they get too specific
[16:47] <@chaosers> why would people say fuck that shit?
[16:47] <@hiro_pro> yeah, ther good roles
[16:47] <Jackal58> I can get behind 2 or 3 roles taken first
[16:47] <@derpladee> because they're the goddamn batman
[16:47] <Jackal58> After that It's not a plan
[16:48] <@chaosers> yeah
[16:48] <@hiro_pro> cool
[16:48] <@MrWiggles> inb4 town ackbar :p
[16:48] <@chaosers> i'm ok with 3 top draft people
[16:48] <@MrWiggles> as first pick
[16:48] <@chaosers> picking specific roles
[16:48] <Jackal58> which roles?
[16:48] <Jackal58> inventor? assasin?
[16:48] <@MrWiggles> Inventor/Thief/Swapper, people are saying?
[16:49] <@MrWiggles> and then maybe assassin
[16:49] <@MrWiggles> those 4 seem to be the focus
[16:49] <@hiro_pro> swaper is the same as framer right?
[16:49] <@MrWiggles> forgot framer -_-
[16:49] <@derpladee> btw, since mayer election is before anything and mayor has to pick a lynch target
[16:49] <@derpladee> how does that work?
[16:49] <Jackal58> Scum need to be denied assassin
[16:49] <@MrWiggles> swapper is like theif, but re-usable
[16:49] <@MrWiggles> mayor is day 2
[16:49] <@MrWiggles> day 1*
[16:49] <@hiro_pro> oh, kk
[16:49] <@MrWiggles> after roles are picked
[16:49] <@derpladee> during day1?
[16:49] <Jackal58> That + DT will kill
[16:49] <@MrWiggles> yeah
[16:49] <@MrWiggles> and he picks day 1 lynch
[16:49] <@jimbosilvers> If I got pick 1,
[16:50] <@jimbosilvers> I think that framer could totally be used in a pro-town way.
[16:50] <@derpladee> are there multiple elections?
[16:50] <@jimbosilvers> Now that I think about it
[16:50] <@derpladee> i mean another mayor day2? or after mayor dies
[16:50] <@MrWiggles> It's basically a one-way bus-driver, isn't it?
[16:50] <@hiro_pro> 1st gets mayor, 2 gets pardoner
[16:50] <@MrWiggles> no, just one elecetion
[16:50] <Jackal58> 1 mayor
[16:50] <@jimbosilvers> Cause it's really more of a redirector, with the framer thing tacked on.
[16:50] <@MrWiggles> yeah
[16:50] <Jackal58> pardoner needs to die fast
[16:50] <@MrWiggles> mhmm
[16:51] <@MrWiggles> Is there even pro-town ways to use pardoner that don't rely on counteing vote-rigger or saving an imba role that you believe is town?
[16:51] <@jimbosilvers> We already discussed the Pardoner a while back.
[16:51] <Jackal58> mayor is cool and all but pardoner is the real power role
[16:51] <@MrWiggles> ahhh
[16:51] <@chaosers> yes
[16:51] <@chaosers> pardoner needs to die
[16:51] <@hiro_pro> If pardoner is ackbar that would be good for town haha
[16:51] <@MrWiggles> mind querying or pming me the logs?
[16:51] <@jimbosilvers> Here's the problem with that.
[16:51] <@jimbosilvers> I'll explain it here:
[16:52] <@jimbosilvers> Pardoner cannot be lynched day 1
[16:52] <@chaosers> yeah i know
[16:52] <@jimbosilvers> Rules.
[16:52] <@jimbosilvers> Pardoner cannot be shot till BGs are gone.
[16:52] <@jimbosilvers> That means that the fastest we can kill the Pardoner is a day 2 policy lynch
[16:52] <@chaosers> it'd have to be a day two policy lynch
[16:52] <@chaosers> yeah
[16:52] <Jackal58> he can be lynched
[16:52] <@chaosers> which makes no sense
[16:52] <@chaosers> he can't be lynched day 1
[16:52] <@jimbosilvers> And a day 2 policy lynch will be REALLY bad for town.
[16:52] <@chaosers> mayor can't lynch him
[16:52] <Jackal58> mayor can lynch him day 1
[16:52] <@jimbosilvers> Policy lynches stagnate discussion
[16:53] <@chaosers> we jsut have to be sure we're voting a townie into pardoner
[16:53] <@MrWiggles> Can he pardon his own lynch?
[16:53] <@jimbosilvers> No
[16:53] <@chaosers> no he can't
[16:53] <@MrWiggles> kk
[16:53] <@MrWiggles> good
[16:53] <Jackal58> dont think so
[16:53] <@chaosers> but if he's hero
[16:53] <@chaosers> he's basically unkilalble
[16:53] <@jimbosilvers> But again, policy lynches should be avoided at all costs.
[16:53] <Jackal58> or vig
[16:53] <Jackal58> sorry vet