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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 18 2011 19:34 GMT
#1121
Oh and if Jimbo and I were scum do you honestly think I'd have outed him like that?

You should die for blatant mafia behavior. Now.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 18 2011 19:43 GMT
#1122
I am Ace...
♪♫♫ We all stand together! ♪♫♪
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 18 2011 19:44 GMT
#1123
On October 19 2011 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh and if Jimbo and I were scum do you honestly think I'd have outed him like that?

You should die for blatant mafia behavior. Now.


You should die for being mafia, that's even more scummy than behaving like mafia.
♪♫♫ We all stand together! ♪♫♪
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 18 2011 19:51 GMT
#1124
On October 19 2011 04:44 Arctocod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 04:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oh and if Jimbo and I were scum do you honestly think I'd have outed him like that?

You should die for blatant mafia behavior. Now.


You should die for being mafia, that's even more scummy than behaving like mafia.

Except for that awkward moment when I'm not mafia. I highly doubt that you're ace but on the outside chance you are, then you're still a completely safe shot for dreamflower.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
October 18 2011 20:15 GMT
#1125
I'm still rereading everyone's responses, but one thing I can do is confirm that I am indeed a VT, and one of meapak's bodygaurds. I was notified of such right after role selection.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 18 2011 20:48 GMT
#1126
Greymist can you explain what you did/thought when you found out Meapak is the bodyguard and not the inventor?

heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
October 18 2011 20:53 GMT
#1127
I think he's just given his role. Not who he's protecting.

If this "switcheroo" was solely kept between meapak and jimbo, how did this get leaked anyway?

How could Sandroba know to leak it to others?

A red check is a red check. Things aren't adding up. Jimbo conveniently forgetting to give us an invention. Meapak you could have picked from the entire drafting list as a replacement. Was jimbo the single most townie-looking person at the time?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
October 18 2011 21:05 GMT
#1128
Bodygaurds were told who the rockstar was, Meapak did not tell me who the other one was, so I cannot confirm if it is sandroba or not.

When i first talked with him he told me his plan, which is the same that he present now. However he left out the fact that he knew where the inventor is, It could be him as scum trying to hide his scumbuddy, or it could be him just not giving inventor to a potential scum (me). I did find it odd, however, that he would try to plant inventor with someone off of less than 1 day of analysis on a player. Its easy to appear protown when you dont have anything you need to lie about (Role, night actions, kp ect.)

As far as what i think about his aliengment, I am torn. On one hand he chose rockstar and not NRA. If I was scum I would have definatly choosen NRA over RS. you dont have bodygaurds checking into you and you get to kill as many people as possible before you are found out.

But as I mentioned his trying to manipulate the position of the inventor seems crazy weird, especially when he isn't sure jimbo is scum or not. If jimbo is scum he would have just single handedly fucked the town over with SO much WIFOM. I'm not sure if it has been mentioned in the PM logs linked, but It might be necessary for Jimbo to claim if he took inventor or not in thread, though i hope it doesn't come to this.

But at the moment I agree with the majority of the people here. Unless we get some answers from players fast (The DT that checked Meapak and the role of jimbo) I support lynching meapak. This entire senario could have been easily conceived by scum to occur, with meapak hoping that his bodygaurds will vouch for him in the case of his lynch, while keeping inventor in their hands. If meapak flips red, great we know where to go from here. If he flips green, we know that jimbo has got some explaining to do, and rad's DT check was bogus/Framer is in the game.

so for the time being ##Vote Meapak_Ziphh
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 18 2011 21:05 GMT
#1129
I mean meapak is the rockstar but you get the idea.

If we have a red check on meapak can someone tell us/me what family he's from?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
October 18 2011 21:07 GMT
#1130
Only NKVD reveals family, and kenpachi claimed to have used that on deconudo
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 18 2011 21:13 GMT
#1131
oh, right. Lame.

I assume the switch got out because one of greymist/sandro told people that meapak was bodyguard. Simple logic.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 18 2011 21:14 GMT
#1132
omfg I gotta stop saying bodyguard, I meant RS.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
October 18 2011 21:18 GMT
#1133
On October 19 2011 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 04:03 Jackal58 wrote:
On October 19 2011 03:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Sandroba lied about being methman, he's one of my BGs and thus vt.

Rock Star -
You have two bodyguards to protect you from angry fans and mafia because you’re just that rich. You know them and they know you! Rock Star bodyguards are taken from vanilla players who did not select or obtain a role and may be any alignment. Bodyguards do not know each other. Bodyguards will protect the Rock Star no matter what alignment they are or he is. The bodyguards protect the Rock Star from both day and night kills but not lynches (including the king's), zombie hits, or nukes.

No he's not.

What does this even mean?

It means he's vanilla. Not townie.
Life can only kill you once.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 18 2011 21:18 GMT
#1134
okay this is stupid

why aren't we lynching jimbo? if he's the real inventor then he doesn't have an excuse for not inventing anything. it's more reasonable to think that meapak was framed than it is to think that jimbo FORGOT to invent something. i mean come on if you take a role like inventor and orchestrate something as big as this switcheroo, it's because you are going to invent stuff. also meapak chose rockstar, why wouldn't he choose NRA if he was scum? then he would have taken at least framer and a DT with him to the grave instead of this.

also he acted his inventor role out pretty well imo except for outing in thread that he was gonna pick inventor before he did it. jimbo is a lot better target for a lynch today. meapak can be lynched tomorrow but right now we know that he's rockstar and he's not dangerous to town at all. jimbo could be anything, nra, KP, or protective role, and that's infinitely more dangerous than a dude who can just sit there and wait for his execution unless he can prevent it by being town.

that said he is doing a terrible job of that so far, he's said a lot but he's still not talking.

##Unvote Meapak_Ziphh
##Vote JimboSilvers


@heist sandroba knew because he is meapak's bodyguard
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
October 18 2011 21:33 GMT
#1135
##unvote

OK, something is very wrong. There are only two roles that can get guilty checks on night one. One of them was Ken, who outed decon, whos about to die.

the other did not check Mepak...

so rad, care to explain?

"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 18 2011 21:35 GMT
#1136
I'd advice you to simply trust this hiro
♪♫♫ We all stand together! ♪♫♪
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
October 18 2011 21:39 GMT
#1137
I'd advice you to tell me what the fuck is going on. feel free to PM, other wise a heath does of suspicion would go along way towards having some actual conversation in the thread.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 18 2011 21:40 GMT
#1138
On October 19 2011 05:53 heist wrote:
I think he's just given his role. Not who he's protecting.

If this "switcheroo" was solely kept between meapak and jimbo, how did this get leaked anyway?

How could Sandroba know to leak it to others?

A red check is a red check. Things aren't adding up. Jimbo conveniently forgetting to give us an invention. Meapak you could have picked from the entire drafting list as a replacement. Was jimbo the single most townie-looking person at the time?

Sandroba didn't know who the inventor was, but he did know I didn't take it.

Again, there is no dt, scum in Rad's circle (probably sandroba) are trying to get me lynched since they can't night kill me.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 18 2011 21:42 GMT
#1139
On October 19 2011 06:35 Arctocod wrote:
I'd advice you to simply trust this hiro

Holy shit please read this everyone, he just admitted there's no dt.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
October 18 2011 21:56 GMT
#1140
Ok hold on I know why hiro is confused. We have a bullet bill that checked if meapak has a gun aka mafia or kp role. And it came back that meapak does. So the idea that there are only 2 red checks possible is incorrect.

The only way Meapak is not red is if he was framed, at this point I am not even sure there is a framer in the game. Even if there was a framer they would have had to frame Meapak instead of protecting one of their own players. There is 0 reason not to lynch Meapak. His play has been scummy, the fact that role swapper swapped kenpahci's role (who had posted 0 times and nobody knew his role) instead of meapaks is hella suspect. And we have a red check! We cannot say for sure whether jimbo is scum it is stupid to try and lynch him, we do know with almost 100% certainty that meapak is scum.
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