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JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
October 18 2011 23:00 GMT
#1181
On October 19 2011 07:54 hiro protagonist wrote:
jimbo... thats against the rules i think.

I looked over them, and I can't find any mention of that sort of thing. I didn't think it was against the rules at the time, and I still don't.

I do think it's a little cheep tbh, so I stopped doing it.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 18 2011 23:03 GMT
#1182
well at least then there's not consensus among hosts about it 'cause i asked kitaman (host) in xlv and he said that it was against the rules but i guess that might not apply to this game ..

i cannot wait another second for the new model op 'cause the current one is ... i need to do some push ups right now
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
October 18 2011 23:04 GMT
#1183
The problem with that is what if a scum team member contacted you for a chat thinking you were on their team?
That seems pretty game ruining to me.
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
October 18 2011 23:05 GMT
#1184
Well, i think we found are "leak"

sense there was no actual mention about it in the OP, I think we should let it slide for now. just dont do it anymore lol.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
October 18 2011 23:08 GMT
#1185
On October 19 2011 08:04 GreYMisT wrote:
The problem with that is what if a scum team member contacted you for a chat thinking you were on their team?
That seems pretty game ruining to me.


IP check everyone, or use skype. Essentially.

I didn't expect it to work, and when it did, I stopped. The ONLY reason I did it was to find scum buddies of the person who I was impersonating. Again, once I realized how easy it is (nobody checks ips) I decided that I needed to stop, so I did.
JACCUZISPLAT
Profile Joined October 2011
Uzbekistan76 Posts
October 18 2011 23:12 GMT
#1186
lol i feel like there might be a modkill inc.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 18 2011 23:14 GMT
#1187
hahaha if this is true this is hilarious.

Jimbo is right though, gotta use IP checks or skype. If someone got impersonated it's the other party's fault for not being careful enough.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
October 18 2011 23:15 GMT
#1188
I mean what did you do exactly? wait for them to contact you or just message random people saying "Sup Broham? I lost the link to the QT you dig?"
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 18 2011 23:16 GMT
#1189
If Jimbo isn't lying then I would guess that what he did is very similar to the wiggles log that meapak posted
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 18 2011 23:18 GMT
#1190
this is a game about behavioral analysis

game

behavioral analysis

this isn't a game about technical shit like ips. you are not supposed to gain an edge from knowing stuff about ips. likewise, you are not supposed to gain an edge from the ability of breaking into people's houses and hold their pets hostage for their alignment, EVEN THOUGH there's not technically anything in the rules about this. why? because this is a game about behavioral analysis. ip checks? jesus christ i cannot possibly express myself right now.
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JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
October 18 2011 23:27 GMT
#1191
On October 19 2011 08:18 prplhz wrote:
this is a game about behavioral analysis

game

behavioral analysis

this isn't a game about technical shit like ips. you are not supposed to gain an edge from knowing stuff about ips. likewise, you are not supposed to gain an edge from the ability of breaking into people's houses and hold their pets hostage for their alignment, EVEN THOUGH there's not technically anything in the rules about this. why? because this is a game about behavioral analysis. ip checks? jesus christ i cannot possibly express myself right now.


It's easy. type /whois playernamehere. It'll give you an ip and other stuff. Irc hacking has always been allowed in mafia, and has been used in more than one game in the past to defeat mafia teams. Behavioral analysis is the core of the game, but there will always be sneaky things going on. If you honestly expect the town to ignore avenues like posing as scum in this game, I don't know what to day. I'm not a tech wizard, I just know how to click a name, then click whois in irc.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
October 18 2011 23:28 GMT
#1192
A conversation for another time. What's done is done.

On October 19 2011 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Talk about over reliance on blues.


Taking a red check at face value is not 'over reliance on blues'. Sitting back today and not trying to out scum would be that. I sat on this for 36 hours, and tried to see what i could make of it.

You are scum. You have a gun. Consider that if you were framed, the framer would have to have made you one of these roles: Bad Santa, Vig, Day Vig, Capitalist, JOAT, Ace, BC, Dreamflower, NRA Member.

If the framer chooses to have his target show up as any of the roles listed above, then he counts as having a gun for Bullet Bill


That is the only way you could have shown up as having a gun. Bad Santa, Vig, Day Vig, Capitalist, Ace, BC and Dreamflower are all stupid frames, since #1 pick would never take them, and none of them are inherently scummy.

That leaves only JOAT and NRA member. NRA member doesn't make sense, since presumably the detective may be able to figure out if they should be dead depending on the nightkills(if the dead players are vanilla or non-visitors). That would run the risk of completely wasting your frame. So that leaves JOAT. Tell me Meapak, why did the framer want you to look like the JOAT?

I can see why the framer may want to change your role to something more scummy. Both Role Cop and Capitalist rely on finding scum based on role. But JOAT!? That isn't scummy at all, it's basically a null-read as it is great for Town or Scum.

Assassin, Vote Rigger, CPR Doc, HERO are all exceptional and believable frames if you want the first pick to look red. Not to mention, half the thread already believed you were the inventor, and the other half already KNEW you were rockstar, so why bother framing you and changing your role?

You are scum Meapak.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 18 2011 23:34 GMT
#1193
On October 19 2011 07:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Kita+ Show Spoiler +
[12:01] <kitaman27_> You running for mayor?
[12:01] <Meapak> hmm I'm thinking about it
[12:03] <Meapak> do you know anyone who's running?
[12:03] <kitaman27_> an inventor with bodyguards would be pretty imba
[12:03] <Meapak> my thoughts exactly
[12:03] <kitaman27_> lol seems like half the town
[12:04] <kitaman27_> mig, syllo, chaoser, dropbear, sandroba and a couple others I think
[12:04] <Meapak> what about them?
[12:04] <kitaman27_> they all mentioned they are running
[12:04] <Meapak> damn
[12:04] <Meapak> that's rough
[12:05] <Meapak> there's gotta be scum in the bundle though
[12:05] <kitaman27_> first pick probably helps your chances though
[12:05] <Meapak> there are at least three scum
[12:05] <kitaman27_> I'm more worried about the pardoner than mayor to be honest
[12:05] <Meapak> forgot about the pardoner
[12:05] <Meapak> and with so many people
[12:06] <Meapak> this is going to be an interesting election
[12:06] <kitaman27_> heh
[12:06] <Meapak> I figure syllo, dropbear, and sandroba lack name recognition
[12:06] <Meapak> they aren't new anymore
[12:06] <Meapak> but still
[12:06] <Meapak> people like chaoser have been around waaay longer
[12:06] <kitaman27_> Radfield or Foolishness could probably win without even campaigning
[12:06] <Meapak> however chaoser has a tendancy to not really campaign
[12:06] <Meapak> yeah they
[12:06] <Meapak> could
[12:07] <Meapak> radfield especially
[12:07] <kitaman27_> I'm not sure I would vote for either at this point though
[12:07] <Meapak> I'm not either
[12:07] <kitaman27_> Foolishness has done nothing to make me think he is town and Radfield has been writing novels of common sense
[12:07] <Meapak> I wouldn't vote for ropbear
[12:07] <Meapak> dropbear
[12:08] <Meapak> and you're right about the other two
[12:11] <kitaman27_> apparently syllo/mig are running together
[12:11] <kitaman27_> syllo says mig is "very town", but I'm not sure how he came up with that after half a day
[12:11] <Meapak> wtf
[12:11] <Meapak> tha's stupid
[12:14] <kitaman27_> lol what was the purpose of that list of names in the library thread that you posted a month ago?
[12:14] <Meapak> I'm trying to figure out how many games everyone has played
[12:14] <Meapak> needless to say it's going to be an ardous task
[12:14] <kitaman27_> ah, good luck sorting through that mess -_-
[12:15] <Meapak> I have all the games up through kurumi's game
[12:15] <Meapak> I think I'm going to have a chat with mig about mayor
[12:16] <kitaman27_> It seems pretty unlikely a pair of scumbuddies would run together on day one
[12:16] <Meapak> yeah
[12:16] <Meapak> but I think each of the houses will probably have someone running
[12:17] <Meapak> I'm just interested in mig because of syllo
[12:24] <Meapak> so ahh dropbear
[12:24] <Meapak> thoughts?


Mig+ Show Spoiler +
[12:16] <Mig__> meapak hello!
[12:17] <Meapak> a little bird tells me you're running for mayor
[12:17] <Mig__> that is what I hear
[12:17] <Mig__> I was gonna ask if you are running
[12:17] <Meapak> I haven't decided yet
[12:17] <Meapak> I'm still not sure what I'm picking lol
[12:18] <Mig__> lolll
[12:18] <Meapak> you're fifth?
[12:18] <Mig__> yea
[12:19] <Mig__> foolish says he may run for mayor also
[12:19] <Meapak> foolish will win if he runs
[12:19] <Meapak> doesn't matter who else is running
[12:25] <Mig__> yea possibly!
[12:25] <Mig__> syllo really wants me to run for mayor
[12:25] <Hentai> why?
[12:25] <Mig__> but I dont want to!
[12:26] <Hentai> then don't
[12:26] <Hentai> syllo may have an agenda or something
[12:26] <Mig__> what agenda can there possibly be lol
[12:26] <Hentai> idk
[12:26] <Mig__> he wants me to run because he is confident I am town
[12:26] <Hentai> oh ok
[12:26] <Hentai> I didn't know he had given you a reason
[12:27] <Mig__> yea we talk on skype a lot we have talked like 10 hours already


Rad+ Show Spoiler +
[18:24] <Meapak> let's talk
[18:24] <Meapak> since there seems to be some confusion
[18:25] <Radfield_> sure,
[18:25] <Meapak> I just PM'd you everything I remember
[18:25] <Radfield_> coo
[18:25] <Meapak> and the private convo I had with mig
[18:25] <Radfield_> cool
[18:29] <Radfield_> That makes sense with what he said. I do however think mig is very possibly scum.
[18:29] <Radfield_> and lol at you telling me you're taking inventor
[18:29] <Radfield_> after i specifically ask you not to tell anyone
[18:29] <Meapak> you told me not to tell?
[18:30] <Meapak> so you did
[18:30] <Meapak> doesn't matter
[18:30] <Radfield_> my first PM to you: Decide your role for yourself, tell no one, and live with the consequences
[18:30] <Radfield_> presumably not
[18:30] <Radfield_> unless you are telling others?
[18:30] <Meapak> I can't decide
[18:30] <Radfield_> how many people have you told you are taking inventor?
[18:30] <Meapak> I'm comfortable with you
[18:30] <Meapak> you so far
[18:30] <Meapak> I wouldn't have told you if I thought you were likely scum
[18:31] <Meapak> I think I'm gonna tell a few more people though
[18:31] <Meapak> can't decide
[18:31] <Radfield_> If anything, tell everyone you can that you are NOT taking inventor
[18:31] <Radfield_> or else you open yourself up to the thief and the role swapper
[18:31] <Meapak> I wanna sent a trap though
[18:32] <Meapak> oh
[18:32] <Meapak> fuck I hadn't even thought of that
[18:32] <Meapak> I wanted to make something that would tell me who went where at night but make it attach on to the person who kills me
[18:32] <Radfield_> Here's the thing, if you take inventor, the chances of you dying night 1 are extremely high
[18:32] <Meapak> that would reveal pretty much evrey scum
[18:33] <Meapak> ugh
[18:33] <Radfield_> but it allows you to get out 1 very pro-town invention
[18:33] <Radfield_> like a police radio
[18:33] <Meapak> maybe I should run for mayor now
[18:33] <Meapak> or list check
[18:33] <Radfield_> with a gf who can cover people, plus a framer
[18:33] <Radfield_> list check is less good than a Police Radio
[18:33] <Meapak> I'm trying to come up with ideas that reveal mafia regardless of cover
[18:34] <Meapak> so a motion detector that will show everyone who went somewhere is one idea
[18:34] <Radfield_> The great thing about the Police Radio, is it reveals a bunch of confirmed townies as well
[18:34] <Meapak> yeah good point
[18:34] <Meapak> I need to tell one more person
[18:34] <Radfield_> why?
[18:34] <Radfield_> ah
[18:34] <Radfield_> yes
[18:34] <Radfield_> in case i am scum
[18:34] <Meapak> yes
[18:34] <Meapak> haha
[18:35] <Meapak> I was writing out an explanation
[18:35] <Radfield_> lol
[18:35] <Radfield_> i guess i can't really recommend anyone else either
[18:35] <Meapak> well I've sent in my pick and I have to go for a bit, I'll be back in like an hour
[18:35] <Meapak> yeah
[18:35] <Meapak> I was thinking sandroba possibly
[18:35] <Radfield_> at any rate, i will recommend who NOT to tell
[18:35] <Meapak> pm me
[18:35] <Radfield_> that would be my pick
[18:35] <Meapak> i need to go
[18:35] <Radfield_> but.....
[18:36] <Radfield_> k
[18:36] <Radfield_> later


Jimbo+ Show Spoiler +
[19:12] <Jimbo> I'm back.
[19:54] <Meapak_away> hi
[19:56] <Jimbo> Hi.
[19:56] <Meapak> I sent in for rockstar
[19:56] <Jimbo> Just wanted to check and see if you had any questions before the deadline.
[19:56] <Meapak> nope I'm setup
[19:56] <Jimbo> kk
[19:56] <Jimbo> For the record,
[19:56] <Jimbo> The chances of us both being town arn't great.
[19:56] <Jimbo> And since I know I'm town,
[19:57] <Jimbo> I'm wary of you.
[19:57] <Jimbo> But only from a statisitcal point of view.
[19:57] <Jimbo> Which is to say,
[19:57] <Jimbo> I will beat myself up after the game if I get screwed over because of this.
[19:58] <Jimbo> Since it's null at this point anyways,
[19:58] <Jimbo> I'll say that I was going to go for Rockstar.
[19:58] <Jimbo> I was gonig to try to get five bodyguards, because then I would know five vanilla townies, and that's pretty huge info.
[19:59] <Meapak> how?
[19:59] <Meapak> would you get bgs
[19:59] <Meapak> and yeah I'm wary of you
[19:59] <Jimbo> Three from mayor,
[19:59] <Jimbo> Two from Rockstar.
[19:59] <Jimbo> They will all be vanilla,
[19:59] <Meapak> but the way our plans works, it's hard for you to fuck the town over
[19:59] <Jimbo> So I ask them what they tried to get,
[19:59] <Meapak> I'm rock star though
[19:59] <Jimbo> (That's the mark of a good plan)
[20:00] <Jimbo> I ask them what they asked for,
[20:00] <Meapak> did you send for inventor?
[20:00] <Jimbo> Yes
[20:00] <Meapak> ok
[20:00] <Jimbo> I'll double check b4
[20:00] <Jimbo> Check.
[20:00] <Jimbo> Lol,
[20:00] <Jimbo> Watch,
[20:00] <Jimbo> Kenpachi will take it.
[20:00] <Meapak> well we know if he does lol
[20:01] <Jimbo> yeah.
[20:01] <Jimbo> But it'll still suck for me.
[20:01] <Jimbo> =D
[20:01] <Meapak> this game is pretty insane lol
[20:02] <Jimbo> Oh hey.
[20:02] <Meapak> what
[20:02] <Jimbo> If I don't get inventor...
[20:02] <Jimbo> Hmm.
[20:02] <Jimbo> Nah,
[20:02] <Jimbo> I don't think there's any reason not to tell you.
[20:02] <Meapak> if you don't get inventor then we have a problem
[20:02] <Meapak> because people may PM me as the inventor
[20:02] <Meapak> and then I have to PM you to see what your powers are
[20:03] <Jimbo> Lol, yeah.
[20:03] <Jimbo> about that.
[20:03] <Meapak> If I don't know who the inventor is me picking rock star is moot
[20:03] <Jimbo> Do we want to keep in communique about what I'm making?
[20:03] <Jimbo> It really shouldn't mattter,
[20:03] <Jimbo> As any pro-town device will be evident.
[20:03] <Meapak> well I will want to be able to tell people what "I'm" making
[20:03] <Meapak> yeah
[20:04] <Meapak> I'm trying to spread it around that I'm the inventor without posting in the thread
[20:04] <Jimbo> Why?
[20:04] <Jimbo> I mean,
[20:04] <Meapak> well
[20:04] <Jimbo> Why would you spread that out, if you were the inventor?
[20:04] <Meapak> I want people to hit me
[20:05] <Jimbo> Ye.
[20:05] <Jimbo> *yes
[20:05] <Jimbo> Hell yeah.
[20:05] <Jimbo> Got it.
[20:05] <Meapak> what?
[20:05] <Jimbo> Obviously you will get yours.
[20:05] <Jimbo> Role.
[20:05] <Meapak> oh lol
[20:05] <Jimbo> Don't ask me why,
[20:05] <Jimbo> but I was worried.
[20:06] <Meapak> I really want to know what kenpachi took
[20:06] <Jimbo> (The really funny thing was that iwasn't worried about you)
[20:06] <Meapak> I wonder if he actually took vt
[20:06] <Jimbo> Rockstar, LAWL.
[20:06] <Jimbo> haha,
[20:06] <Jimbo> that would be funny.
[20:07] <Jimbo> Dayvig can't shoot first day, right?
[20:07] <Meapak> idk actually
[20:07] <Meapak> hm
[20:07] <Jimbo> (I.e, he can't kill the mayor right before he get's elected)
[20:07] <Meapak> apparently my bgs can be any alignment
[20:07] <Meapak> and I doubt it
[20:07] <Jimbo> yes.
[20:07] <Meapak> that would be imba
[20:07] <Jimbo> Yeah
[20:07] <Jimbo> that's what I'm thinking.
[20:07] <Meapak> they also know me
[20:07] <Jimbo> Yeah,
[20:08] <Meapak> which means I can't try and claim inventor without some people knowing I'm lying
[20:08] <Meapak> but the only reason the bg's would out me is if they were scum
[20:08] <Jimbo> Two people, yes.
[20:08] <Jimbo> yes.
[20:08] <Jimbo> So you go with it,
[20:08] <Jimbo> If scum don't hit you...
[20:08] <Jimbo> (within a day or two)
[20:09] <Meapak> I'm trying to come up wiht a good way to claim without making it seem impluasible
[20:09] <Meapak> the easiest would be to run for mayor but you need that
[20:10] <Jimbo> Mmm.
[20:10] <Jimbo> yes,
[20:10] <Jimbo> But I don't know taht you would be the reason I lose.
[20:10] <Jimbo> Rather, i don't think you running would have a big effect on me winning or loseing.
[20:10] <Jimbo> DUDE.
[20:11] <Jimbo> Me and you.
[20:11] <Jimbo> Mayor pardoner.
[20:11] <Meapak> let's do it
[20:11] <Jimbo> it's probably a terrible idea,
[20:11] <Meapak> wait
[20:11] <Meapak> analysis
[20:11] <Meapak> you are scum
[20:11] <Jimbo> But it made me smile, so let's do it.
[20:11] <Jimbo> Crap.
[20:11] <Meapak> you are mayor
[20:11] <Jimbo> make me pardoner!
[20:11] <Meapak> you have one lynch
[20:11] <Jimbo> Yes.
[20:11] <Meapak> you pretty much have to do what the town wants
[20:11] <Jimbo> Can't do much with it though,
[20:11] <Jimbo> right
[20:11] <Meapak> otherwise you get lynched
[20:11] <Meapak> beyond that you are unkillable at night
[20:11] <Meapak> but if we get a dt check on you
[20:11] <Meapak> we can lynch you
[20:12] <Meapak> you're scum
[20:12] <Meapak> you're pardoner
[20:12] <Jimbo> Wait.
[20:12] <Jimbo> No,
[20:12] <Meapak> you can pardon a scum buddy right before a lynch
[20:12] <Jimbo> Can't check the mayor.
[20:12] <Jimbo> Can't target him.
[20:12] <Meapak> oh you cant?
[20:12] <Meapak> ok
[20:12] <Jimbo> Dude, mayor is frikken invinciable.
[20:12] <Jimbo> Only think that can touch him is lynch.
[20:12] <Meapak> lemme finish running through this simulation
[20:12] <Jimbo> kk
[20:12] <Meapak> you are mafia
[20:12] <Meapak> you are scum
[20:12] <Meapak> lol
[20:12] <Jimbo> haha.
[20:13] <Meapak> you are pardnoer
[20:13] <Jimbo> Pardoner.
[20:13] <Jimbo> I pardon a buddy,
[20:13] <Meapak> you pardon your buddy at the last minute
[20:13] <Jimbo> i get lynched,
[20:13] <Meapak> reveals two scum for one
[20:13] <Meapak> confirms who's getting lynched
[20:13] <Meapak> and you
[20:13] <Meapak> as scum
[20:13] <Meapak> ok
[20:13] <Jimbo> half the team is gone.
[20:13] <Meapak> I'm scum
[20:13] <Meapak> I run for mayor
[20:13] <Jimbo> Uh,
[20:13] <Jimbo> btw,
[20:13] <Meapak> same restrictions as you
[20:13] <Jimbo> that scenario only one scum dies,
[20:13] <Jimbo> Cause i don't pardon my own team....wait.
[20:13] <Jimbo> nm.
[20:14] <Meapak> wait was that a scumslip?
[20:14] <Jimbo> That wouldn't screw me over less.
[20:14] <Meapak> wait what?
[20:14] <Meapak> I'm confused
[20:14] <Jimbo> I'm saying, that if I was pardoner scum,
[20:14] <Meapak> oh ok
[20:14] <Jimbo> I wouldn't pardon my own teammate.
[20:14] <Meapak> yeah
[20:14] <Jimbo> Cause that would out two of us.
[20:14] <Jimbo> I would pardon to deny info.
[20:14] <Jimbo> And cause confusion.
[20:14] <Meapak> but still, that mean's your worthless to your team in the pardoning situation
[20:14] <Jimbo> But eya,
[20:14] <Jimbo> I still lose inventor, and that's huge.
[20:15] <Meapak> yeah
[20:15] <Meapak> well ok here's the thing
[20:15] <Meapak> we're deep enough in this now
[20:15] <Meapak> and your inventions will tell your aligment fairly fast
[20:15] <Meapak> I say we do it
[20:15] <Jimbo> We can try,
[20:15] <Jimbo> but Honestly,
[20:15] <Jimbo> If I ever saw two people "running together"
[20:16] <Meapak> nonono
[20:16] <Meapak> we don't run together
[20:16] <Jimbo> RIght,
[20:16] <Jimbo> But we both try.
[20:16] <Meapak> we avoid attacking each other
[20:16] <Meapak> we take down everyone else
[20:16] <Jimbo> If it looks like we don't both make it,
[20:16] <Meapak> till we're the only choices
[20:16] <Jimbo> Uh...
[20:16] <Jimbo> That sounds bad.
[20:16] <Jimbo> hold on a sec.
[20:17] <Meapak> what
[20:18] <Meapak> LOOOOOOOOOOOL someone actually took puppateer
[20:18] <Jimbo> Sorry, Foolishness was bugging me.
[20:18] <Meapak> oh np
[20:20] <Jimbo> Ok,
[20:20] <Jimbo> So,
[20:20] <Jimbo> here's the thing.
[20:20] <Jimbo> I'm not convinced of your innocnece, right?
[20:21] <Meapak> yeah
[20:21] <Jimbo> I've talked with you a lot,
[20:21] <Jimbo> But I'm still not convinced.
[20:21] <Meapak> Similarly for me
[20:21] <Jimbo> Really, there's only one person who I'm kinda cloes to,
[20:21] <Jimbo> But at this point,
[20:21] <Meapak> at this point in the game I have no one who I fully trust
[20:21] <Jimbo> I don't think anyoen shold be sure of anyone.
[20:21] <Jimbo> lol,
[20:21] <Jimbo> sfp
[20:21] <Meapak> what?
[20:22] <Jimbo> sfp: Same freaking person
[20:22] <Meapak> oh haha
[20:22] <Meapak> hadn't heard that one before
[20:22] <Jimbo> It's a phrase I use when two people come to the same conclusion at the same time.
[20:22] <Jimbo> I think I invented it.
[20:22] <Meapak> put it on urban dictionary
[20:22] <Jimbo> Me and two other friends do it all the time.
[20:22] <Jimbo> Lol, yeah.
[20:22] <Meapak> you'd have started someting
[20:23] <Jimbo> Anyways,
[20:23] <Meapak> neither of us fully trust each other
[20:23] <Jimbo> I don't think that we know they other's alignment well enough to support eachother's campaings more than we would normally.
[20:23] <Jimbo> So I say we play it out,
[20:23] <Jimbo> Campaign, sure,
[20:23] <Meapak> sounds fair
[20:24] <Meapak> here's the bottom line
[20:24] <Jimbo> But I'm not going to tear down someone who I think is a legitimatly better candidate than you.
[20:24] <Meapak> I don't know if you took inventor
[20:24] <Meapak> you don't know I took rock star
[20:24] <Meapak> the only thing you can know is if I took inventor if you took it
[20:24] <Meapak> I think that's where we stand
[20:25] <Jimbo> The only thing that i know is that you and ken didn't take Inventor, the only thing you know is that nobody else got rockstar.
[20:25] <Jimbo> ea.
[20:25] <Jimbo> *yea
[20:26] <Jimbo> Tbh,
[20:26] <Jimbo> I'll bet that at LEAST one other person in the top 5-6 picks inventor.
[20:26] <Jimbo> In Personality, three people in the top 7 picked list checker.
[20:26] <Meapak> yeah
[20:26] <Jimbo> Cause it was that important.
[20:27] <Meapak> just so we're straight though, out of everyone in this game so far you're the one I trust most. Doesn't mean I think you're town but I'm just letting you know where I stand
[20:27] <Meapak> that's why I felt comfortable doing our deal
[20:27] <Jimbo> Gotcha.
[20:29] <Jimbo> What do you think of Sandroba?
[20:29] <Meapak> hmmm
[20:29] <Meapak> I like some of the stuff he's written in the thread
[20:30] <Meapak> several people have said good things about him to me
[20:30] <Meapak> I have never talked with him personally though
[20:30] <Meapak> why?
[20:30] <Jimbo> Who said good things about him, if I may ask?
[20:31] <Jimbo> I'm trying to build a web, centered on him.
[20:31] <Meapak> lol
[20:31] <Meapak> lemme check
[20:31] <Meapak> loooooooool
[20:31] <Meapak> it's radfield
[20:31] <Meapak> who I told I was inventor
[20:32] <Meapak> and then I told him I needed to tell someone else incase I died, insurance against him being sum
[20:32] <Meapak> scum
[20:32] <Meapak> he sent me a list of names
[20:32] <Meapak> no offense but I wont give you the whole list
[20:33] <Jimbo> Interesting.
[20:33] <Meapak> however I'll let you know that you are on the "do not tell you are inventor" list
[20:33] <Jimbo> Rad and Sandro were apparently going to run together.
[20:33] <Meapak> sandroba is on the "tell about inventor" list
[20:33] <Jimbo> Right.
[20:33] <Meapak> I thought that was syllo and sandro
[20:33] <Jimbo> Hmm.
[20:33] <Meapak> I'd rather you not confront radfield about this
[20:33] <Jimbo> Sandro trust Syllo.
[20:33] <Jimbo> No problem.
[20:33] <Meapak> syllo trusts sandro
[20:34] <Meapak> wait
[20:34] <Jimbo> Right.
[20:34] <Meapak> back to the irc logs
[20:34] <Meapak> wait no
[20:34] <Jimbo> I'm not going to bring this up for a little while.
[20:34] <Meapak> syllo and mig were going to run together
[20:34] <Meapak> Make sure you catch that
[20:34] <Jimbo> Because I want the web to spread as far as I can get it.
[20:34] <Jimbo> Yeah,
[20:34] <Jimbo> I got that
[20:34] <Meapak> ok
[20:34] <Jimbo> Sandro was endorsign that.
[20:34] <Meapak> you probably have a lot more info than i do tbh
[20:35] <Jimbo> Right, But again,
[20:35] <Meapak> I haven't been as active as I'd like
[20:35] <Jimbo> It's the info that I don't have that i need, obviously.
[20:35] <Meapak> ugh
[20:35] <Meapak> I want to trust you
[20:35] <Meapak> we could trade info
[20:36] <Jimbo> Don't.
[20:36] <Jimbo> Not yet.
[20:36] <Jimbo> It's tempting, and I've fallen for it before,
[20:36] <Meapak> let's let a day or so go by
[20:36] <Jimbo> But any infor you give me can at LEAST wait till night.
[20:36] <Jimbo> Because I don't think I'll get lynched.
[20:36] <Meapak> in the meantime I'll pump radfield some more
[20:36] <Jimbo> And I doubt you will either.
[20:36] <Jimbo> Awesome.
[20:36] <Meapak> well I'll announce my candidacy and meantion I'm inventor
[20:37] <Meapak> that'll stop me from getting lynched
[20:37] <Jimbo> Lol,
[20:37] <Jimbo> Just make sure it's believable.
[20:37] <Meapak> yeah
[20:37] <Meapak> I'll do it very "reluctantly"
[20:37] <Jimbo> mafia have laready shown themselves capable of calling bluffs.
[20:38] <Meapak> yeah
[20:38] <Jimbo> make a machine that will dt check you, and only you.
[20:38] <Jimbo> Then claim Bill Murry.
[20:38] <Jimbo> =D
[20:38] <Meapak> looool
[20:39] <Meapak> I'd be down
[20:39] <Meapak> I still think I need an award as the person who modkilled bm the second time
[20:39] <Meapak> in my first game as cohost
[20:40] <Jimbo> hahahaha
[20:40] <Jimbo> Epic modkill.


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Drkbane: hey
Drkbane: finally got this account verified so i can talk
Meapak_Ziphh: one sec, I'm gonna have to visit the thread to figure out who this is lol
Drkbane: grey
Meapak_Ziphh: oh ok cool
Meapak_Ziphh: day post is up... you're dead
Drkbane: for serious
Meapak_Ziphh: JKJK
Drkbane: haha
Meapak_Ziphh: sorry
Meapak_Ziphh: I had too
Drkbane: lol
Drkbane: you have tf2?
Meapak_Ziphh: yeah
Meapak_Ziphh: not on this comp though
Drkbane: want to learn me it?
Drkbane: ah ok
Meapak_Ziphh: LOL
Meapak_Ziphh: I'm the wrong person to ask
Meapak_Ziphh: I suuuuuuck at tf2
Meapak_Ziphh: just play as a heavy
Meapak_Ziphh: right click to charge up your gun
Drkbane: i play a medic
Meapak_Ziphh: left to fire when you see badies
Drkbane: :D
Meapak_Ziphh: oh lol
Meapak_Ziphh: if you're a medic then just heal the heavies
Drkbane: haha
Drkbane: i just heal whoever needs the healing
Meapak_Ziphh: 'scuuuse me
Meapak_Ziphh: as a heavy
Meapak_Ziphh: I demand healings
Meapak_Ziphh: whenever I want
Drkbane: well shit
Meapak_Ziphh: day post is up
Meapak_Ziphh: holy shit
Meapak_Ziphh: three red kills
Meapak_Ziphh: plus two blue kills
Meapak_Ziphh: for real
Drkbane: well me and my little pm group were 2 for 2 on reads
Drkbane: it seems
Drkbane: :D
Meapak_Ziphh: nice!
Meapak_Ziphh: time to reread the thread
Meapak_Ziphh: ok today I'm gonna try and get either hiro protagonist or heist lynched
Meapak_Ziphh: both have been pretty scummy in the thread
Drkbane: those are both good targets to look into for today
Meapak_Ziphh: I have to ask you something
Drkbane: what
Meapak_Ziphh: did you tell anyone I was rock star?
Meapak_Ziphh: with so much KP, I find it hard thinking I took a hit
Meapak_Ziphh: which was what I was trying to do
Drkbane: this is a bit less than i was expecting
Drkbane: was bumatlarge your other one>
Drkbane: ?
Meapak_Ziphh: no
Meapak_Ziphh: but did you tell anyone?
Drkbane: hmm interesting
Meapak_Ziphh: people know who I didn't want to know
Drkbane: i indicated that you roleclaimed to me in a PM
Drkbane: before you claimed inventor
Drkbane: i didnt tell that to people who were scummy
Meapak_Ziphh: did you indicate what what I claimed?
Drkbane: no
Meapak_Ziphh: ok
Drkbane: seems like your other gaurd is not as tight lipped though
Meapak_Ziphh: I need to talk to him
Drkbane: becuase some people had ideas that you were RS
Drkbane: dont think too much about it though. they only claimed to people who i honeslty would have claimed to as well
Meapak_Ziphh: I've been pm'd about it by people I really don't trust
Drkbane: i think your little "slip" that you were inventor was too obvious of a fake
Meapak_Ziphh: that's how one person claimed to know
Meapak_Ziphh: they just "figured it out"
Meapak_Ziphh: but they also figured out who the real inventor is
Meapak_Ziphh: which I gave ZERO clues to
Drkbane: a real inventor would have either laid low, or full out claimed and tried to be as active as possible
Drkbane: you did neither, so
Drkbane: so you know the other inventor?
Meapak_Ziphh: yeah, and I was going to try and be as active as possiible but shit happened saturday
Drkbane: sry if you told me that already
Meapak_Ziphh: yeah I know him
Drkbane: how?
Drkbane: did you guys plan picks before?
Meapak_Ziphh: here's what happened
Meapak_Ziphh: I really didn't want inventor to go somewhere town couldn't find it
Meapak_Ziphh: I took someone higher up on the picking list who I felt comfortable with
Meapak_Ziphh: and approached them with the plan that I would take rock star and try to draw hits and they would take inventor
Meapak_Ziphh: if they were scum and let inventor slip to a teammate I'd just out them and lynch them
Meapak_Ziphh: if they were town, I would have succeded in protecting the inventor indefinetly
Drkbane: how would you indentify that they did not take inventor?
Meapak_Ziphh: they wouldn't make me what I wanted
Meapak_Ziphh: I would claim to make stuff and they would have to make it for me
Meapak_Ziphh: and it worked
Drkbane: well i mean he doesnt know that you are town either
Meapak_Ziphh: there's no risk for him though
Meapak_Ziphh: if he dies night one
Drkbane: of course its unlikely for scum to approach you with that plan
Meapak_Ziphh: he was supposed to have a safe person to tell
Meapak_Ziphh: and if he died
Drkbane: well the other concern is that he is just making you what you want to mislead you
Meapak_Ziphh: they would lynch me
Meapak_Ziphh: yes
Drkbane: and will try to convince you later to do what he wasnts
Drkbane: wants*
Meapak_Ziphh: but even still the inventions can't lie
Drkbane: all i can say is just let someone know the second he tries to not do what you want
Drkbane: because that will most likely be scum trying to make an excuse to fufill a scum agenda
Meapak_Ziphh: yes
Meapak_Ziphh: god this is fucked up
Meapak_Ziphh: fuck
Meapak_Ziphh: ok
Meapak_Ziphh: I'm feeling comfortable with you
Meapak_Ziphh: I need to talk to my other bg
Drkbane: see why people wanted me elected?
Drkbane: lol
Meapak_Ziphh: lol
Drkbane: in any case
Drkbane: prp brought up an interesting point
Meapak_Ziphh: in the thread?
Drkbane: yea
Drkbane: kita got roleswap at 23 on draft list
Drkbane: oh and i just realized something mighty interesting
Meapak_Ziphh: what does Jackal mean about hiro being NRA
Drkbane: not sure how much i can reveal atm
Meapak_Ziphh: if you don't trust me at this point I completely understand lol
Drkbane: i think you could obviously be more pro town, but in honeslty if you were scum trying to do the plan you are doing, there are much more simple ways to do it
Drkbane: like just pick NRA
Drkbane: of course you didnt, and you ran the risk of bodygaurds looking into you closely
Meapak_Ziphh: yeah
Meapak_Ziphh: I should have told you this whole plan right off the bat though
Drkbane: doesnt matter really
Meapak_Ziphh: so you would either buy into it or if something went really wrong I could lynch you
Meapak_Ziphh: but now I have no idea where the leak came from
Meapak_Ziphh: since I didn't start with evrything on the table
Drkbane: anyway, i trust you enough with this
Drkbane: and regarding the leak, it might have come from me or the other bodygaurd. like i implied, i had to indicated to some degree that i knew your role. and people might have made educated guesses
Meapak_Ziphh: I don't think it came from you
Drkbane: anyways, onto the interesting thing
Drkbane: it is in regards to foolishness
Meapak_Ziphh: do I need to give an opinion on him before we continue?
Drkbane: not really, but go ahead
Meapak_Ziphh: foolishness has lurked suuuper hard this game and as someone of his caliber I would have expected more out of him
Meapak_Ziphh: I don't really know what this means since he's been town and scum under the same playing style but if he's town I'd have thought he'd be more out in the open
Meapak_Ziphh: so final verdict is I am suspicious of him
Meapak_Ziphh: oh
Meapak_Ziphh: and I've heard that he thinks something is "off" with me this game
Drkbane: alright here is what i have discovered so far about him due to the flip
Drkbane: still working on the interpretation
Drkbane: right after we all got our roles, foolishness told me he tried to go for puppeteer but it failed
Drkbane: chaoser just flipped puppeteer, and he is before foolishness in the draft order
Meapak_Ziphh: so foolishness could have been telling the truth
Meapak_Ziphh: or knew it had already been taken
Drkbane: right
Drkbane: if he is lying about that statement, he is for sure on the same team as chaoser
Drkbane: and knew it would be safe to claim it had been taken
Drkbane: doesnt tell me as much as i initally thought it would
Drkbane: becuase i keep forgetting there are multiple teams
Drkbane: but its still sometihng
Meapak_Ziphh: ok
Meapak_Ziphh: notice I just claimed rb'd in the thread
Meapak_Ziphh: that is because the retarded inventor forgot to send in an invention
Meapak_Ziphh: It is verifiable that no invention has been made
Meapak_Ziphh: otherwise there would be something in the day post
Meapak_Ziphh: my concern now is that the inventor is scum and is trying to avvoid inventing
Meapak_Ziphh: please don't say anything in the thread yet
Meapak_Ziphh: I need to talk with some people
Drkbane: tnow i
Drkbane: why the fuck
Drkbane: did it type backwards
Drkbane: i wont
Meapak_Ziphh: lol
Meapak_Ziphh: fuck my life
Meapak_Ziphh: god
Drkbane: haha have fun
Drkbane: ill just sit here bodygaurding
Meapak_Ziphh: lol
Meapak_Ziphh: holy shit I just realized
Meapak_Ziphh: I didn't die n1
Meapak_Ziphh: first time in like 4 games lol
Drkbane: nice
Meapak_Ziphh: wow
Meapak_Ziphh: bum got vanilla at 11
Meapak_Ziphh: wonder what he went for
Drkbane is now Away.
Drkbane is now Online.
Drkbane: idk
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Kenpachi+ Show Spoiler +
[19:49] <Kenpachi> Meeeaaapaaak
[19:49] <Kenpachi> What have you been up to?
[19:49] <Meapak> My favorite body bag!
[19:49] <Meapak> lots of shit
[19:49] <Kenpachi> coo coo
[19:49] <Meapak> I have a math midterm tuesday and I had shit on saturday
[19:49] <Meapak> anyway how's your life?
[19:50] <Kenpachi> lol, sucks to be you.
[19:50] <Kenpachi> Busy, but can't complain.
[19:50] <Meapak> -_-
[19:50] <Meapak> thats good
[19:51] <Meapak> so who are you looking at for the lynch tomorrow?
[19:52] <Kenpachi> Hmm.
[19:52] <Kenpachi> There are a few people that wouldn't be bad.
[19:53] <Kenpachi> Scumdroba dissapeared.
[19:53] <Kenpachi> he might be good
[19:54] <Kenpachi> Syllo too, actually.
[19:54] <Kenpachi> lol
[19:54] <Meapak> yeah I can see that
[19:54] <Meapak> what about heist?
[19:55] <Kenpachi> I donno,
[19:55] <Kenpachi> tbh,
[19:55] <Kenpachi> I skimmed over the case against him.
[19:55] <Meapak> It's decent
[19:55] <Kenpachi> Cause I wanted to see the day post,
[19:55] <Meapak> me too
[19:55] <Kenpachi> Who are you looking at?
[19:56] <Meapak> well tbh
[19:56] <Meapak> I'm gonna take a long hard look at bumatlarge
[19:56] <Meapak> his play fits his scum meta to a T atm
[19:57] <Kenpachi> Lol, what play?
[19:57] <Meapak> exactly
[19:57] <Meapak> take a look at drh's minigame
[19:57] <Meapak> he's playing nearly identical
[19:58] <Kenpachi> Lurk, sheep vote, lurk?
[19:58] <Kenpachi> Or,
[19:58] <Kenpachi> Guess his first vote wasn't sheeping,
[19:58] <Kenpachi> But the other one was.
[19:59] <Meapak> day post in one minute
[20:03] <Meapak> oh wow
[20:03] <Meapak> guess bum was town
[20:03] <Kenpachi> Wow.
[20:03] <Kenpachi> That...
[20:03] <Kenpachi> Went pretty well I think
[20:09] <Meapak> hmmm
[20:09] <Meapak> my reads just got shot to shit
[20:10] <Kenpachi> Which reads?
[20:11] <Kenpachi> Did you think that Chaoser was town?
[20:11] <Kenpachi> Or just Bum?
[20:12] <Meapak> just that bum was scum
[20:34] <Kenpachi> So...What happened to the invention?
[20:36] <Meapak> roleblocked -_-
[20:37] <Kenpachi> Smart move, really
[20:37] <Kenpachi> Since medics were probably on you.
[20:37] <Meapak> yeah, it still sucks though
[20:37] <Kenpachi> Suck balls
[20:37] <Meapak> we could have checked the mig list
[20:37] <Kenpachi> Yeah


Wiggles+ Show Spoiler +
[18:57] <Wiggles> Hey, you should post more.
[18:58] <Meapak> yeah
[18:58] <Meapak> I'm gonna try too tomorrow
[18:58] <Meapak> I was gone for most of saturday so I didn't really get an oppertunity to influence the mayor election
[18:58] <Meapak> anyway
[18:59] <Meapak> how about dat bumatlarge?
[18:59] <Wiggles> lol, yeah
[18:59] <Wiggles> Lurking like a boss.
[18:59] <Meapak> Unless something by the way of dt checks or something comes up I'm gunning for him tomorrow
[19:00] <Meapak> his play is identical to drh's minigame
[19:00] <Wiggles> I'd agree.
[19:00] <Wiggles> He's really not playing like town right now,
[19:01] <Wiggles> And someone like him shouldn have been allowed to get this far with doing so little.
[19:01] <Meapak> I understand why people want to go after heist but from a personal perspective I have no idea what his meta is so I'm gonna wait a bit there
[19:01] <Meapak> yup
[19:02] <Wiggles> Lol, what about dropbear?
[19:02] <Meapak> he wants to kill me
[19:02] <Meapak> basically because I said if I was elected I'd kill him
[19:02] <Meapak> I think Chaoser(?) sums it up nicely
[19:02] <Meapak> aka I'd be fine to lynch him
[19:03] <Wiggles> Yeh.
[19:03] <Wiggles> Hopefully vig's catch on to him and kill him tonight.
[19:03] <Meapak> dropbear's one saving grace is ironically just how retarded his play has been
[19:03] <Meapak> yeah
[19:04] <Wiggles> Honestly, I don't know how chaoser didn't get lynched yesterday
[19:04] <Meapak> wait you think he should have been lynched?
[19:04] <Wiggles> Uh...He looks pretty dang scummy.
[19:05] <Meapak> I agree to a certain extent but I though there were way better targets
[19:05] <Wiggles> Really?
[19:05] <Wiggles> It actually made me suspicious of Rad that he didn't lynch him.
[19:05] <Meapak> I thought his case against heist was good
[19:06] <Meapak> I was surprised when rad didn't lynch heist
[19:06] <Wiggles> Lol,
[19:06] <Wiggles> Just becaues someone brings up a good case against scum,
[19:06] <Wiggles> Doesn't mean that they themselves aren't scum.
[19:06] <Meapak> regardless, node was a lucky lynch and I kinda doubt it'll be that easy again
[19:06] <Meapak> yeah
[19:07] <Meapak> you're right
[19:07] <Meapak> I keep forgetting that
[19:07] <Wiggles> Heh, you never know. it's still more mafia then town
[19:07] <Wiggles> Random chance and all, we might hit another one if they aren't active about redirecting stuff.
[19:07] <Meapak> it's gonna be interesting to see how much kp is out there
[19:08] <Wiggles> Yeah.
[19:08] <Wiggles> Lol,
[19:08] <Meapak> 50 minutes to go
[19:08] <Wiggles> And how good medics and such are.
[19:08] <Meapak> I have this sinking feeliing I'm gonna have my role stolen lol
[19:09] <Wiggles> Well you did claim...
[19:09] <Meapak> yeah but at the start of the day I thought I'd be active enough to mount a real campaign
[19:09] <Meapak> plus I assumed most people would guess I'd gone for it
[19:10] <Wiggles> ?
[19:10] <Meapak> as the number one spot
[19:10] <Wiggles> Oh yeah.
[19:10] <Wiggles> Right.
[19:11] <Meapak> ugh wbg really pisses me off
[19:11] <Meapak> he's just really abbrassive
[19:11] <Wiggles> Yeah.
[19:12] <Wiggles> He made some good points about Sandroba when that came up,
[19:12] <Wiggles> But abbrasive is the right word.
[19:15] <Meapak> lol what do you think of prplhz
[19:16] <Wiggles> I don't know to be honest.
[19:16] <Wiggles> He's been quiet,
[19:16] <Meapak> all I know is I'm pretty sure I modkilled him in the game I hosted
[19:17] <Wiggles> Lol, a current game?
[19:25] <Meapak> it was a few months ago
[19:25] <Meapak> man
[19:25] <Meapak> do you watch football?
[19:27] Channel names begin with # (corrected automatically).
[19:28] <Wiggles> Not much, no.
[19:28] <Meapak> ah
[19:28] <Meapak> chibears vs viks on monday night
[19:28] <Meapak> devon hester is an absolute beast
[19:29] <Meapak> just had his millionth td kickoff return
[19:29] <Wiggles> Nice!
[19:29] <Wiggles> Dude, how long has he been playing?
[19:30] <Meapak> idk
[19:30] <Meapak> he's been in the league for a while
[19:30] <Meapak> he had a kickoff return in the superbowl a few years ago
[19:30] <Meapak> Hester, Josh Cribbs, and Ted Ginn are amazing to watch
[19:31] <Meapak> oh a Lesean McCoy but I hate the eagles so...
[19:31] <Meapak> *and
[20:03] <Meapak> wow...
[20:03] == No such nick: Wiggles


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[20:58] <Meapak> good sir
[20:59] <Meapak> you have been strangely silent this game
[20:59] <Meapak> what gives?
[21:22] <Foolishness> no sir
[21:22] <Foolishness> I assure you there's more to me than you think
[21:22] <Meapak> fascinating sir
[21:23] <Foolishness> yes sir, you wouldn't believe it actually
[21:23] <Foolishness> although the night kills bummed me out a bit
[21:24] <Meapak> why?
[21:24] <Foolishness> dropbear put his bomb on cyber cheese
[21:24] <Meapak> I'll admit I was surprised bum flipped town
[21:24] <Foolishness> alas a waste!
[21:24] <Meapak> Oh I see now
[21:24] <Meapak> well that would have been an epic bomb
[21:24] <Foolishness> yes, unfortunately cyber was killed by other means, which I'm still figuring out
[21:25] <Meapak> wow foolishness
[21:26] <Meapak> way to just shut me up lol
[21:26] <Foolishness> hm?
[21:26] <Foolishness> lol what do you mean?
[21:26] <Meapak> I'm not bugging you about not paying attention anymore
[21:26] <Meapak> you're clearly on top of things
[21:27] <Foolishness> ahh yes
[21:27] <Foolishness> if you need to know anything else I may know
[21:27] <Foolishness> there's probably quite a bit else I could shut you up with
[21:27] <Foolishness> =D
[21:27] <Meapak> I have no doubt
[21:28] <Foolishness> but you know
[21:28] <Foolishness> you can't claim to be roleblocked forever
[21:28] <Meapak> I'm eager to hear
[21:28] <Meapak> what all do you know about me?
[21:28] <Foolishness> I know you're not the inventor
[21:28] <Foolishness> which means there probably isn't an inventor in this game
[21:29] <Meapak> The reason I'm not the inventor
[21:29] <Meapak> was to protect it
[21:29] <Meapak> I'm fairly sure there is an inventor
[21:29] <Meapak> and if there's not
[21:29] <Foolishness> no invention in the day post?
[21:29] <Meapak> I have caught a scum
[21:29] <Meapak> my friend
[21:30] <Meapak> I know you are suspicious of me
[21:30] <Meapak> I must say the feeling is mutual
[21:30] <Meapak> I still trust the inventor
[21:30] <Foolishness> errr
[21:30] <Foolishness> why isn't there an invention in teh day post?
[21:31] <Meapak> The inventor has given me a reason for that
[21:31] <Meapak> I'll let it pass once
[21:31] <Foolishness> o.O
[21:32] <Foolishness> that implies the reason is sketchy? lol
[21:32] <Meapak> foolishness I take back what I said earlier
[21:32] <Meapak> you need to expand your PM circle
[21:32] <Meapak> I think a lot of people don't think I'm the inventor
[21:32] <Meapak> but there are people who found out who it is
[21:33] <Foolishness> if I said I knew your actual role would that suffice? lol
[21:33] <Meapak> I bet you do know my role
[21:33] <Foolishness> or is that common knowledge as well?
[21:33] <Meapak> I don't know
[21:33] <Meapak> some people know
[21:33] <Meapak> some people I told
[21:33] <Meapak> someone know because somewhere in my plan there is a scum
[21:34] <Meapak> I just need to find out where
[21:34] <Foolishness> somewhere in your plan there is scum?
[21:34] <Meapak> that's my guess
[21:34] <Meapak> since things fell apart so fast
[21:34] <Meapak> what role am I?
[21:34] <Foolishness> rockstar
[21:35] <Meapak> yeah
[21:35] <Meapak> so the leaks could come from my bgs
[21:35] <Meapak> the inventor
[21:35] <Meapak> so far the list of people who I know have figured it out is around 4
[21:35] <Foolishness> are you able to tell me what alerted you to the fact there's a leak?
[21:35] <Meapak> someone pm'd me calling me out
[21:36] <Meapak> up till that point I was fairly certain
[21:36] <Foolishness> err what kinda of call out
[21:36] <Foolishness> like
[21:36] <Foolishness> YOUR FOOL YOUR NOT THE INVENTOR IMMA KILL YO ASS
[21:36] <Meapak> he named my role
[21:36] <Meapak> even worse
[21:36] <Meapak> here's the thing
[21:36] <Meapak> I'm pretty sure the inventor is town
[21:36] <Meapak> there's really no reason for a mafia to do what he's done with me
[21:37] <Meapak> there's too much uncertainty involved
[21:37] <Foolishness> so that means a bodyguard is mafia?
[21:37] <Meapak> and in this game 1 1 trades aren't good
[21:37] <Meapak> yes
[21:37] <Foolishness> hummm okay
[21:37] <Meapak> and judging from the person who PM'd me I think I know which one
[21:37] <Meapak> plus I already talked to the other one tonight
[21:37] <Foolishness> hmmm
[21:38] <Meapak> not only did he mention being part of a town circle which netter a scum kill but I had a townie read on him since late day 1
[21:38] <Meapak> however
[21:38] <Meapak> I haven't talked to my other bg yet
[21:38] <Foolishness> wait wait
[21:38] <Meapak> yes yes?
[21:38] <Foolishness> which scum kill?
[21:38] <Foolishness> do you know?
[21:38] <Foolishness> because I know how chaoser died
[21:38] <Meapak> he chose not to tell me
[21:39] <Meapak> we trust each other but we're not stupid
[21:39] <Foolishness> hmm
[21:39] <Foolishness> well I know how chaoser died
[21:39] <Foolishness> I knew that cheese was mafia in the same family as him
[21:39] <Foolishness> chaoser died from Radfield
[21:40] <Foolishness> (whether Radfield performed the actual hit or not, I don't know, but he ordered it)
[21:40] <Meapak> are you sure it was rad personally
[21:40] <Meapak> yeah
[21:40] <Foolishness> yeah
[21:40] <Foolishness> it's very possible that the Radfield group knew that cheese was his mafia buddy
[21:40] <Foolishness> but
[21:40] <Foolishness> that information came from my group
[21:40] <Meapak> clever of radfield to not kill chaoser by the lynch
[21:40] <Foolishness> err it would have necessarily come from my group
[21:40] <Foolishness> apparently whoever is dreamflower shot chaoser
[21:41] <Meapak> mkay
[21:41] <Foolishness> the chaoser kill was also influenced by my group
[21:41] <Foolishness> kitaman is the one mafia I can't explain
[21:41] <Meapak> so in a sense it's one big group?
[21:41] <Foolishness> so if you're BG knows how kitaman died then it's legit, otherwise he probably didn't do anything
[21:42] <Foolishness> the Radfield group is huge
[21:42] <Foolishness> and there's most definitely mafia invovled in that group
[21:42] <Foolishness> involved*
[21:42] <Meapak> wait do you know how bum died?
[21:42] <Foolishness> no I do not
[21:42] <Meapak> I was gonna post a case against him today
[21:42] <Meapak> I was pretty sure he was scum
[21:42] <Meapak> and then he flipped town
[21:42] <Foolishness> most likely the mafia hits were: bum, kitaman, dropbear
[21:42] <Foolishness> at least that makes the most sense
[21:43] <Meapak> db seems like a stupid mafia hit
[21:43] <Meapak> unless they knew chaoser would die
[21:43] <Foolishness> then bum, kitaman, cyber
[21:43] <Foolishness> it's possible they did
[21:43] <Meapak> kita also makes no sense
[21:43] <Foolishness> the Radfield group is not good at keeping secrets
[21:43] <Meapak> and neither does cyber
[21:43] <Foolishness> cyber is at least high up on the list
[21:43] <Meapak> then my guess would be that the inventor secret is gonna be out by the end of today
[21:44] <Foolishness> or as I said, it's possible the Radfield group knew about cyber from us
[21:44] <Foolishness> I don't really care about the inventor, if one of your BGs is mafia that's of utmost importance to me
[21:44] <Meapak> I'll be talking to my other bg sometime tomorrow
[21:45] <Foolishness> k
[21:45] <Meapak> as I said, I'm comfortable with one of them
[21:45] <Meapak> -_-
[21:45] <Meapak> If there was one piece of information you could have most what would it be?
[21:46] <Meapak> I don't want to reveal stuff needlessly
[21:46] <Meapak> but I want to help you
[21:46] <Foolishness> yes
[21:46] <Foolishness> I need to find a mafia from either the Lancester's or the York's
[21:47] <Meapak> isn't kenpachi claiming greymist is york?
[21:47] <Meapak> in the thread
[21:47] <Foolishness> I don't really believe that
[21:47] <Foolishness> err I mean I think greymist is town
[21:47] <Meapak> I do too
[21:48] <Meapak> I'm thinking the decon check is probably correct
[21:48] <Meapak> but I don't know if kenpachi is town either
[21:48] <Foolishness> I think kenpachi is telling the truth
[21:48] <Foolishness> doesn't say anything about deconduo or greymist though
[21:49] <Meapak> framer -_-
[21:49] <Meapak> I'm actually still trying to understand how greymist fits into this
[21:49] <Foolishness> cause greymist asked that mod question
[21:49] <Foolishness> although if he was mafia he probably wouldn't have made it public like that
[21:50] <Meapak> oh ok
[21:50] <Meapak> well I don't beleive that at all
[21:50] <Meapak> that grey mist is scum
[21:51] <Meapak> wait
[21:51] <Meapak> I think kenpachi is lancaster
[21:51] <Meapak> he calls decon tudor
[21:51] <Meapak> calls greymist york
[21:51] <Meapak> he claims he knows decon from the check
[21:51] <Meapak> how does he know greymist?
[21:52] <Foolishness> cause greymist asked that mod question?
[21:52] <Foolishness> I don't know I tend to shake off anything kenpachi says as lolol
[21:57] <Meapak> wait how does he know then?
[21:58] <Meapak> I'm gonna take a showe, back in five or ten
[22:00] <Foolishness> kk
[22:13] <Meapak> back
[22:14] <Foolishness> good
[22:15] <Meapak> how does kenpachi know greymist is york
[22:15] <Foolishness> he doesnt
[22:15] <Meapak> when he's writting the post
[22:15] <Meapak> what is his thought process
[22:15] <Meapak> so if you're kenpachi
[22:15] <Meapak> you think
[22:15] <Meapak> "decon is tudor
[22:15] <Meapak> "
[22:15] <Meapak> and I found another scum
[22:16] <Foolishness> hmmmm
[22:16] <Meapak> what alignment are the"
[22:16] <Meapak> here's what I'm trying to say
[22:16] <Meapak> This is all what he thinks
[22:16] <Meapak> decon is scum tudor
[22:16] <Meapak> greymist is also scum
[22:16] <Meapak> what family is greymist
[22:17] <Meapak> how does he decide york
[22:17] <Meapak> that's the million dollar question
[22:18] <Foolishness> flip a coin? lol
[22:18] <Foolishness> but yeah I see what you mean
[22:18] <Meapak> I'm gonna reread his post
[22:19] <Foolishness> I mean his posting is very spontaneous
[22:19] <Meapak> yeah
[22:19] <Meapak> but that lends credibility
[22:19] <Meapak> he's not thinking what a huge scumtell it is
[22:22] <Meapak> gonna ask him in the thread
[22:22] <Foolishness> nuke's off
[22:23] <Meapak> um
[22:23] <Meapak> didn't america die?
[22:23] <Foolishness> copycat ")
[22:23] <Foolishness>
[22:23] <Foolishness> **
[22:23] <Meapak> oh wow
[22:23] <Meapak> gosu play
[22:26] <Meapak> this is great
[22:26] <Meapak> it means we don't waste a day lynching decon
[22:31] <Meapak> his response
[22:31] <Meapak> "because kitaman was a york"
[22:31] <Foolishness> this makes no sense lol
[22:32] <Meapak> I know
[22:40] <Meapak> hang on
[22:41] <Meapak> kenpachi might be right
[22:41] <Meapak> well
[22:41] <Meapak> his logic flows
[22:41] <Meapak> wait
[22:41] <Meapak> nvm
________________________________________
[22:58] <Foolishness> hmm I feel that you should know some information
[22:58] <Foolishness> about me
[22:59] <Foolishness> I'm vanilla
[22:59] <Foolishness> and I tried to pick the puppeteer role
[22:59] <Foolishness> whatever face value you want to take that as is fine by me
[22:59] <Foolishness> but it should make sense in the near future why I tried to take that role
[22:59] <Foolishness> and it wasn't for the same reasons that chaoser took it
[23:01] <Foolishness> I need to sleep now so I will ttyl
[23:02] <Meapak> alright
[23:02] == No such nick: Foolishness



THERE ARE IRC CHATS THAT I FORGOT TO SAVE. I AM NOT LEAVING THEM OUT I MERELY DO NOT HAVE THEM. IF WE TALKED AND I DON'T HAVE THE LOG PLEASE POST IT

scum.
You know its pretty funny because i never talked to you. I also dont talk like that. im fucking amazing not linear. Also, me asking questions? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOLOL
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 18 2011 23:36 GMT
#1194
On October 19 2011 08:34 Kenpachi wrote:
scum.
You know its pretty funny because i never talked to you. I also dont talk like that. im fucking amazing not linear. Also, me asking questions? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOOOOOOOOLOL
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Post of the game.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 18 2011 23:41 GMT
#1195
Actually Rad I think since mafia count as having guns a framer would cause the guy to show up as having a gun no matter what role he picked.

also kenpachi you need to start reading the thread
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
October 18 2011 23:41 GMT
#1196
My other dominant personalities are not around at the moment. When everyone gets back and can confer we will make a decision. Please concentrate on the game and not on questions of rule breaking or ethics until it is over.
And so, we find the Sublime.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
October 18 2011 23:41 GMT
#1197
On October 19 2011 07:49 prplhz wrote:
Can mods please clarify, because this is also very unclear from the rules, that it is illegal to impersonate people in PMs.

Jesus christ.

Nope it is not illegal.
And so, we find the Sublime.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 18 2011 23:41 GMT
#1198
Just had an enlightening chat with Palmar

[16:35] <Palmar> DERP
[16:35] <Palmar> so
[16:35] <Palmar> instead of acting around like this
[16:35] <Meapak> lol
[16:35] <Palmar> maybe you can tell me
[16:35] <Palmar> whom we should not kill tonight
[16:36] <Meapak> lolol
[16:36] <Meapak> you have either 1 or 3 teamates left
[16:36] <Meapak> the world is your oyster
[16:36] <Meapak> kill whoever you like
[16:36] <Meapak> you'll get lynched tomorrow though :D
[16:36] <Palmar> probably yeah
[16:36] <Meapak> you've lied too much and my flip will put so much heat on you
[16:37] <Palmar> maybe I can dodge it
[16:37] <Meapak> I doubt it
[16:37] <Palmar> WELL
[16:37] <Meapak> unless you and sandroa are on the same team

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[16:37] <Palmar> we're not
[16:37] <Meapak> well then you're dead
[16:37] <Meapak> sandroba has more trust then you
[16:38] <Palmar> YEAH
[16:38] <Meapak> and even if you're the guy with three teammates left it won't matter
[16:38] <Palmar> I think so
[16:38] <Meapak> tell me
[16:38] <Meapak> why did you go for a 1 1 trad?
[16:38] <Meapak> trade?
[16:38] <Palmar> do you know how dropbear died?
[16:38] <Meapak> is the mafia in that dire straights to kill a townie?
[16:38] <Meapak> no idea
[16:38] <Palmar> or bum?
[16:39] <Meapak> nope
[16:39] <Palmar> wait
[16:39] <Meapak> only one I know is chaoser
[16:39] <Palmar> you actually aren't mafia?
[16:39] <Meapak> um
[16:39] <Meapak> yeah
[16:39] <Meapak> that's kinda what I've been trying to say
[16:39] <Meapak> for the past two fucking days
[16:39] <Palmar> I was kinda hoping
[16:39] <Palmar> you could like...
[16:39] <Meapak> lol you're pulling a wbg
[16:39] <Palmar> tell me what your family is shooting
[16:39] <Palmar> so there won't be cross-shooting
[16:39] <Meapak> he PM'd me asking me the same thing
[16:39] <Meapak> I don't have a family
[16:39] <Palmar> meh
[16:40] <Meapak> this is headed to the thread
[16:40] <Meapak> and you will die
[16:40] <Palmar> sure
[16:40] <Meapak> not before me
[16:40] <Meapak> I have too many votes.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
October 18 2011 23:44 GMT
#1199
On October 19 2011 08:41 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 07:49 prplhz wrote:
Can mods please clarify, because this is also very unclear from the rules, that it is illegal to impersonate people in PMs.

Jesus christ.

Nope it is not illegal.


Schizophrenia strikes! Go with what he/I said.
And so, we find the Sublime.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 18 2011 23:47 GMT
#1200
On October 19 2011 07:23 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 07:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
If a bullet bill checks a mafia member of any kind, does the BB get the result that the target has a gun?


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 07:05 hiro protagonist wrote:
does bullet bill check back positive on mafia, even if there role has no KP?


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 07:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Does all KP count as a gun for bullet-bill, or just vig-like roles? For example, does CPR doc return as having a gun to bullet-bill even though he only has paddles? Can being framed make a player appear to be carrying a gun? Do all mafia count as carrying a gun at all times?

Thanks.


Show nested quote +
This is the complete list of players with guns(for Bullet Bill): Bad Santa, Vig, Day Vig, Capitalist, JOAT, Ace, BC, Dreamflower, NRA Member.
Mafia also automatically count as having guns.

Framer -
Show nested quote +
You have the power to change how one's alignment and role appears to any detective type actions performed on them that night. You may use it on one person per night and may not use it on yourself. In addition, you may also choose to have your framed target visit anyone you choose. Any actions they perform will also be misdirected. Your target will also show up to watcher and tracker reports.


If the framer chooses to have his target show up as any of the roles listed above, then he counts as having a gun for Bullet Bill.


Hey Rad reread the part about the framer while you're at it. Oh and please read the thread. I've caught 3 reds in the past 24 hours
Sandroba, WhereBugsGo, and Palmar.
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