Over this past weekend I was at my sister's house in Nebraska. Her husband is stationed at the Air Force base in Offutt and is an electrician for the jets. I have been debating what to do with my life for a couple of years now. Just going through the motions at school, but nothing else for the most part. I got to talking with him and his friend who was driving through to Washington because he got new orders there. He used to be a recruiter before these orders. I asked him questions about certain things and he gave me straight up answers. After asking him just basic general questions, I asked him about getting into a SEAL program. and he told me all about what I would have to do, how to go about doing it, and how long it would take. He gave me the PT numbers that I would have to do to make it into BUD/S. The test is 500 yard swim in 12:30, 10 minute rest, 42 push ups in 2 minutes, 2 minute rest, 55 sit ups in 2 minutes, 2 minute rest, then as many pull ups as you can do with no time limit, 2 minute rest, then a 1.5 mile run in under 11:30. Currently I can pass all of those with the exception for swimming, but doing the minimum is useless. If I were to do the bare minimum, I would have a 6% chance of graduating BUD/S. I need to at least double all of these scores to be competitive. 500 yd swim in 7-8 minutes, 100+ push ups and sit ups in the allotted time. 20+ pull ups, and sub 9 minutes on the run. Today I returned home and went to my local recruiter, he had me do a practice ASVAB to see where I was at. I scored a 95 out of 99. I discussed further about what would happen if I got into BUD/S and then got hurt or something made me not able to complete the training. He told me if i went straight there form enlistment without getting a different job first I would most likely be chipping paint off of boats. Because being a SEAL is completely voluntary, He suggested that I choose a job and then after that job training apply for BUD/S. If I have a job before BUD/S and I wash out then I will go right back to that job. I think I am going to try something in the INTEL field. My reason being that I feel that would be the most beneficial training that goes along with being a SEAL. He gave me some forms to fill out. I am going to fill those out tonight and then go back in the morning to turn them all in and start the whole enlistment process. I don't know how long it will be until I go to basic, but I am hoping less than 3 months, but I think that is doubtful.
I guess this blog is going to include my training and feelings on a day to day basis.
Thanks for reading!
9/27/11- Swam for 35 minutes, 6x35 push ups, 6x35 sit ups, 3x10 pull ups, 3x10 squats at 135, now tonight I am going to run probably about 5 miles. then go to wrestling practice.
9/27/11- Swam for 35 minutes, 6x35 push ups, 6x35 sit ups, 3x10 pull ups, 3x10 squats at 135, now tonight I am going to run probably about 5 miles. then go to wrestling practice.
For some reason I always thought any special forces were ridiculously strong, but those requirements aren't all that tough for anyone who works out everyday
On September 28 2011 07:53 Endymion wrote: For some reason I always thought any special forces were ridiculously strong, but those requirements aren't all that tough for anyone who works out everyday
Those are bare minimums for admission... he said that people who only meet the bare minimums only have a 6% graduation rate. Not to mention that the rigorous training almost certainly makes you "stronger" by the time you graduate.
On September 28 2011 07:53 Endymion wrote: For some reason I always thought any special forces were ridiculously strong, but those requirements aren't all that tough for anyone who works out everyday
Those are bare minimums for admission... he said that people who only meet the bare minimums only have a 6% graduation rate. Not to mention that the rigorous training almost certainly makes you "stronger" by the time you graduate.
well no i know but even the competitive requirements aren't even really extreme like you would expect of the best of the best in the military, i expect it's because they weed you out with the training like you suggested though
On September 28 2011 07:53 Endymion wrote: For some reason I always thought any special forces were ridiculously strong, but those requirements aren't all that tough for anyone who works out everyday
Those are bare minimums for admission... he said that people who only meet the bare minimums only have a 6% graduation rate. Not to mention that the rigorous training almost certainly makes you "stronger" by the time you graduate.
well no i know but even the competitive requirements aren't even really extreme like you would expect of the best of the best in the military, i expect it's because they weed you out with the training like you suggested though
Well it might not seem like much. But that is only to get considered for entry to the program. Everyone that gets in can Do that. But then it still has an 80% drop out rate. 24 weeks of nonstop physical exertion. You should watch clips on you tube. Search BUD/S training
On September 28 2011 07:53 Endymion wrote: For some reason I always thought any special forces were ridiculously strong, but those requirements aren't all that tough for anyone who works out everyday
Those are bare minimums for admission... he said that people who only meet the bare minimums only have a 6% graduation rate. Not to mention that the rigorous training almost certainly makes you "stronger" by the time you graduate.
well no i know but even the competitive requirements aren't even really extreme like you would expect of the best of the best in the military, i expect it's because they weed you out with the training like you suggested though
i'm fairly certain those are the bare minimum of his pt test with a few extra events. i.e. if you score below that you can't join the navy. i don't think those are bud/s specific.
also i dunno about the seal requirements, but most special operators must know a second language. and since you're also interested in intel, i'd recommend asking your recruiter or w/e about going to the defense language institute. they would send you there to learn a second language, and you'd be put in an intel comm job. the only downside is dli classes are fairly long, the shortest being like half a year (spanish) and the longest being 64 weeks (chinese, korean etc).
I was in the Navy for a 4 year term. There are either jobs where you get a decent paycheck and you don't have to do fucking shit but be at your watches and clean a little bit. Or you can go special forces or Engineering where I was. Engineering you need to be a strong person. Being in an engine room or boiler room. 110+ degrees, very very loud, and you will be there all the time. If you like seeing the sun then stay away from engineering.
Navy is a tricky branch. It's like a melting pot for people who like to pretend to do work which there is only like 10% of the actual Navy that does.
Get decent rank, workout, and you can put up Navy recruit chicks 100%.
no, the navy does situps where they cross their arms over their chest and sit up until their elbows hit their thighs. the army is the only branch that does situps like that i believe.
On September 28 2011 08:13 trancey wrote: ... recruiters lied to get you to sign the papers and shipped off to boot camp. You are only guaranteed what is given to you in writing, do not believe what the recruiters say otherwise. NEVER ENLIST UNDECLARED (you'll end up scrubbing the sides of ships for the first two years).
Cannot be understated. Make SURE whatever they promise you is in writing.
On September 28 2011 08:24 rel wrote: INavy is a tricky branch. It's like a melting pot for people who like to pretend to do work which there is only like 10% of the actual Navy that does.
This.
When I was at my final command, WoW had just started at my night-shift supervisor was a huge WoW nerd raider. I was the co-GMs of one of the top US guilds at the time, he gave me half days to give him raid strategies in Naxxramas 40man.
On September 28 2011 07:53 Endymion wrote: For some reason I always thought any special forces were ridiculously strong, but those requirements aren't all that tough for anyone who works out everyday
Those are bare minimums for admission... he said that people who only meet the bare minimums only have a 6% graduation rate. Not to mention that the rigorous training almost certainly makes you "stronger" by the time you graduate.
well no i know but even the competitive requirements aren't even really extreme like you would expect of the best of the best in the military, i expect it's because they weed you out with the training like you suggested though
Let me give you a comparison:
Minimum passing time for 1.5 miles (2.4km) in the Singapore army is something like 12:50 (standard personnel). Most combat-fit personnel will end up with <10min during basic and afterwards while in service.
The requirements are just to see if you can start the training, they'll condition you from there to reach the standard of your actual job.
On September 28 2011 07:53 Endymion wrote: For some reason I always thought any special forces were ridiculously strong, but those requirements aren't all that tough for anyone who works out everyday
Those are bare minimums for admission... he said that people who only meet the bare minimums only have a 6% graduation rate. Not to mention that the rigorous training almost certainly makes you "stronger" by the time you graduate.
well no i know but even the competitive requirements aren't even really extreme like you would expect of the best of the best in the military, i expect it's because they weed you out with the training like you suggested though
Let me give you a comparison:
Minimum passing time for 1.5 miles (2.4km) in the Singapore army is something like 12:50 (standard personnel). Most combat-fit personnel will end up with <10min during basic and afterwards while in service.
The requirements are just to see if you can start the training, they'll condition you from there to reach the standard of your actual job.
Yeah basically what he said here. Once I am in the program, it's like nonstop exercise for like 12-14 hours a day of just a bunch of grueling shit. like the timed 4 mile run. You have to do it in 32 minutes. Doesn't sound too hard, but you are running in sand with combat boots. after you have already been doing evolutions for a couple of hours prior.
If you havent watched any of the BUD/S training videos, you should check them out on youtube