EPTTL Mafia XLIII - Page 29
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Kenpachi
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On August 05 2011 07:13 redFF wrote: wtf is it with new players and mass claiming lol. He isn't confirmed town so we will not be mass claiming to him. It's a game of probabilities and this is a semi-closed setup. If we put the likelihood of mig being town at, say, 90+%, mass claiming could be worthwhile. He doesn't have to be 100% confirmed. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
If people don't feel comfortable claiming to me then don't but the realistic odds of me being mafia are almost 0. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
PRIMARY INFORMATION: Taa is a lying motherfucker + Show Spoiler + [17:01] <Original|Laptop> wtf [17:01] <Kenpachi_> oh wow only trotske died [17:01] <Original|Laptop> trotske [17:01] <Original|Laptop> ??? [17:01] <Original|Laptop> Mig you get hit? [17:01] <Original|Laptop> wait [17:01] <Original|Laptop> no shot [17:01] <Original|Laptop> from taa [17:01] <Original|Laptop> soooo [17:01] <BloodyC0bbler> who would shoot [17:01] <BloodyC0bbler> trotske [17:01] <Original|Laptop> i dont know [17:01] <Original|Laptop> its almost a help [17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> why wasnt taa hit [17:01] <taa> dont count on me being a blue [17:02] <Original|Laptop> i figured [17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> taa did you bluff [17:02] <Original|Laptop> as much [17:02] <Original|Laptop> taa you vet? [17:02] <Original|Laptop> and take hit? [17:02] <mig__> who shot trotske [17:02] <mig__> ? [17:02] <Original|Laptop> mafia...? [17:02] <mig__> what sense does that make lol [17:02] <Original|Laptop> probably for the wifom value [17:02] <Kenpachi_> fail blue snipe? [17:02] <Original|Laptop> Look at trotskes posts [17:03] <Original|Laptop> if nothing of value is in it [17:03] <Original|Laptop> then ignore it and move on [17:03] <Kenpachi_> did anyone get roleblocked? [17:03] <Kenpachi_> f5 yo! [17:03] <Original|Laptop> we killed roleblocker [17:03] <Original|Laptop> duuuurrrrr [17:03] <Barundar> well maybe because he was pretty much town from varp's fos [17:03] <Kenpachi_> well you know [17:03] <mig__> well anyway yes I was shot [17:03] <mig__> I am a champion [17:03] <Kenpachi_> there might be more.. [17:03] <Barundar> \o/ [17:03] <Original|Laptop> alright [17:03] <Original|Laptop> figured [17:03] <Original|Laptop> mig was it a med or you vet? [17:03] <Kenpachi_> lol [17:04] <mig__> vet [17:04] <DoctorHelvetica> it doesnt matter he shouldn't claim how imo [17:04] <DoctorHelvetica> ok [17:04] <Original|Laptop> alright [17:04] <Original|Laptop> so we still dont know if we have a medic [17:04] <syllogism> he may have been a bad attempted blue snipe, he talked about snipers and such [17:04] <Kenpachi_> yeah [17:04] <Kenpachi_> so [17:04] <mig__> really bad attempted blue snipe if so lol [17:04] <Kenpachi_> i got roleblocked [17:04] <Kenpachi_> but i dont do anything [17:04] <Original|Laptop> huh [17:04] <Original|Laptop> so [17:04] <syllogism> huh [17:04] <Original|Laptop> they have 2 roleblocks [17:04] <Original|Laptop> wtf [17:04] <BloodyC0bbler> the fuck? [17:05] <Original|Laptop> so we probably have more power roles than i thought [17:05] <Original|Laptop> hmmm [17:05] == Yonista [~nnscript@Lucidity.users.quakenet.org] has joined #loonybin [17:05] <Original|Laptop> or [17:05] <Original|Laptop> a fuckton of vets [17:05] <BloodyC0bbler> then no gf? [17:05] <Original|Laptop> Maybe that too [17:05] == Lucidity [Jimenez@Lucidity.users.quakenet.org] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] [17:05] <Original|Laptop> this is interesting [17:05] <DoctorHelvetica> i think its 2-3 vets [17:05] <DoctorHelvetica> if there are more than one RB [17:05] <Original|Laptop> agreed [17:05] <Original|Laptop> hmmm [17:06] <Original|Laptop> We should start pressuring JeeJee [17:06] <redafk> k [17:06] <redafk> nope [17:06] <redafk> i think jeejee is town [17:06] <Original|Laptop> ... [17:06] <Original|Laptop> Thats why we pressure him [17:06] <Original|Laptop> for his reaction [17:06] <DoctorHelvetica> i never thought jeejee had a strong case against him BC is scummier to me [17:06] <Original|Laptop> i dont give a fuck [17:06] <DoctorHelvetica> and chaos13 [17:06] <Original|Laptop> if you think hes town [17:06] <mig__> hey so [17:06] <mig__> people should claim to me yea? [17:06] <BloodyC0bbler> lawl [17:06] <mig__> unless people think I could be faking [17:06] <Original|Laptop> no [17:06] <Original|Laptop> i doubt your faking [17:06] <redafk> ima wait mig [17:06] <redafk> u [17:06] <Original|Laptop> of all people [17:07] <redafk> he could be [17:07] <mig__> lol [17:07] <Original|Laptop> it could be [17:07] <Original|Laptop> Mig/Kenpachi scum team [17:07] <Original|Laptop> just sayin [17:07] <Kenpachi_> wat [17:07] <Original|Laptop> Fake protect [17:07] <Original|Laptop> and roleblock [17:07] <redafk> Original|Laptop: bc is scummier [17:07] <Original|Laptop> for wifom value [17:07] <Original|Laptop> and shoot trotske [17:07] <syllogism> lol [17:07] <Kenpachi_> im [17:07] <Original|Laptop> redafk: Its called conspiracy theories [17:07] <Kenpachi_> so confused [17:07] <mig__> if people don't want to claim they don't have to I don't care [17:07] <Kenpachi_> wtf are you saying [17:07] <mig__> but that scenario is pretty unlikely lol [17:07] <Original|Laptop> Yeah [17:07] <Original|Laptop> it is [17:07] <Original|Laptop> once again [17:07] <Original|Laptop> conspirachy theory [17:08] <Original|Laptop> lol [17:08] <Original|Laptop> Syllos willingness to massclaim to mig [17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> redff just wants to prove that someday he can be right by random accusing me of being red [17:08] <Original|Laptop> is kinda weird [17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> not really [17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo works with mig [17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> like every pm game [17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:08] <redafk> BloodyC0bbler: FUUUUUUUU [17:08] <Original|Laptop> red [17:08] <Original|Laptop> chill the fuck out [17:09] <Original|Laptop> and actually think this out rationally [17:09] <redafk> lol [17:09] <redafk> im kidiing [17:09] <redafk> but ehres whats happenin [17:09] <redafk> we aint mass claiming to mig [17:09] <Original|Laptop> Not yet [17:09] <redafk> thats not happening [17:09] <mig__> red you dont have control over whether people do or not lol [17:09] <Original|Laptop> I could see it useful later [17:09] <Original|Laptop> but we have no control [17:09] <Original|Laptop> that is correct [17:09] <redafk> mig__: i know obv [17:09] <mig__> but ok so what are the scenario [17:09] <redafk> but im gonna try and stop people [17:09] <BloodyC0bbler> would have been more solid if a vig had shot mig, thats easier to prove -_- [17:09] <mig__> where I am mafia [17:09] <redafk> because you arent confirmed town [17:10] <mig__> what are the scenario where I am mafia? [17:10] <mig__> mafia double stacked trotske [17:10] <mig__> to try and get the blue role list? [17:10] <mig__> if dts claim to me I can announce results [17:10] <Original|Laptop> for the recod [17:10] <Original|Laptop> its still not that bad of an idea [17:10] <Original|Laptop> on mafias part [17:10] <BloodyC0bbler> to risk one of their own? [17:11] <Original|Laptop> eh [17:11] <mig__> I doubt they double stack trotske if that were the case tho lol [17:11] <Original|Laptop> yeah [17:11] <mig__> they would have double stacked you [17:11] <Original|Laptop> its probably failed blue snipe [17:11] <redafk> if a dt found scum [17:11] <Kenpachi_> ^ [17:11] <redafk> he should claim [17:11] <redafk> in thread [17:11] <redafk> imo [17:11] <Original|Laptop> and a prot [17:11] <Original|Laptop> No [17:11] <Original|Laptop> fuck no [17:11] <mig__> or he could claim to me.......... [17:11] <mig__> and I can announce it [17:11] <BloodyC0bbler> im with the "why would anyone double stack troske" [17:11] <Original|Laptop> id rather him claim to mig [17:11] <Original|Laptop> I dont like massclaims [17:11] <BloodyC0bbler> double stack a higher priority player [17:11] <Original|Laptop> but indivdual claims [17:11] <Original|Laptop> are fine [17:11] <mig__> yea rationally why in the world would they ever double stack trotske [17:11] <Original|Laptop> yeah [17:11] <redafk> btw [17:12] <Original|Laptop> So [17:12] <redafk> i feel like trotske wasnt a vig shot [17:12] <redafk> but rather [17:12] <Original|Laptop> No [17:12] <Original|Laptop> he wasnt [17:12] <Original|Laptop> it was a failed blue snipe [17:12] <redafk> an attempted blue snipe [17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> i feel like he was a fail [17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> shot [17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> yea [17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> well [17:12] <DoctorHelvetica> yes i could see [17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> he did flip blue [17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> just not the right blue [17:12] <DoctorHelvetica> why they would think hes vig [17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:12] <Kurumi> TL Mafia XLIII [17:12] <Kurumi> will be famous [17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> haha [17:13] <Kurumi> fireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [17:13] <Kurumi> it burns [17:14] <Original|Laptop> hmm [17:14] <Kenpachi_> i wonder who dt checked you [17:14] <Original|Laptop> id like to know DT checks [17:15] <Original|Laptop> I kinda hope a DT claims to mig [17:15] <Original|Laptop> ._. [17:15] <BloodyC0bbler> if we have one =\ [17:15] <taa> i didnt get shot [17:15] <taa> i think [17:15] <taa> you get notified right? [17:15] <BloodyC0bbler> youd be notified [17:15] <Kenpachi_> no [17:15] <BloodyC0bbler> if you were [17:15] <Kenpachi_> unless youre vet [17:15] <Kenpachi_> no? [17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> vet gets told [17:16] <Kurumi> you get notified of losing vet life and med protects [17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> as does a protected person [17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> medic isnt told [17:16] <Kenpachi_> oh [17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> though [17:16] <redafk> taa: you claimed vig correct [17:16] <taa> ye [17:16] <redafk> why the fuck [17:16] <redafk> did mafia not shoot yu [17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> fear of him being a hatter? [17:16] <taa> they are derps [17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:16] <redafk> and why the fuck didnt you shoot after claiming vig [17:16] <Kenpachi_> lol [17:16] <taa> wtf [17:16] <taa> i didnt shoot [17:16] <Original|Laptop> taa [17:16] <DoctorHelvetica> taa has been fosing everybody in this game [17:16] <DoctorHelvetica> lol [17:16] <Original|Laptop> are you blue [17:16] <taa> must have forgotten [17:16] <redafk> taa why did you claim vg [17:16] <redafk> first of all [17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> ON [17:16] <Kurumi> original [17:17] <Kurumi> lol [17:17] <BloodyC0bbler> everyone is blue or red -_- [17:17] <Original|Laptop> oh [17:17] <Original|Laptop> shut [17:17] <taa> dude [17:17] <Kenpachi_> he wante d to shoot jeeje [17:17] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:17] <Original|Laptop> taa are you a power role [17:17] <redafk> why did you claim vig [17:17] <Original|Laptop> Because theres no reason to claim [17:17] <Original|Laptop> unless your vet [17:17] <redafk> wtf is it with people and claiming like retards [17:17] <Original|Laptop> or suicidal [17:17] <taa> im not a power role [17:17] <Original|Laptop> okay [17:17] <Original|Laptop> so now [17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> listen [17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> wait [17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> shut up and listen [17:17] <Original|Laptop> alright [17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> we agree trotske was shot becasue of a bad blue snipe [17:17] <Original|Laptop> yes [17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> he talked alot about vig mechanics [17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> mafia would havet hought he was vig [17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> why the fuck [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> not shoot taa [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> who claims it [17:18] <taa> lol [17:18] <Original|Laptop> For the wifom [17:18] <Original|Laptop> on the claim [17:18] <taa> my claim was obv fake [17:18] <Original|Laptop> imo [17:18] <Original|Laptop> or [17:18] <taa> look [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> LAL [17:18] <Yonista> it would be stupid to claim [17:18] <mig__> hey how about this [17:18] <Yonista> obvious fake [17:18] <mig__> why did they rb ken [17:18] == Yonista has changed nick to Lucidity [17:18] <mig__> and not TAA [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> who the fuck is yonista [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> ok [17:18] <Original|Laptop> LAL is sounding pretty good atm [17:18] <Kenpachi_> \o\ [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> yes [17:18] <Kenpachi_> i dunno [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> lal [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> all taa has done in this game as far as i ecall [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> is fos people and not follow through [17:18] <Original|Laptop> is claim [17:18] <Original|Laptop> and fos [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> and accuse people of being scum in irc [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> then [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> not argue his case [17:18] <Kenpachi_> and claim vig [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> he called me scum here too [17:18] <taa> drH [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> then didn't do anything [17:19] <taa> still upset [17:19] <taa> ? :p [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> and he said i didn't contribute and he couldn't back it up lol [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> upset about what [17:19] <Original|Laptop> now hes pulling the umad card [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> you're being antagonistic again make a real point [17:19] <taa> you were talking so much about sandys plan [17:19] <Original|Laptop> So was everyone else [17:19] <taa> you deserved to be called out [17:19] <Kenpachi_> someone shoul [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> that was the topic of discussion at the time [17:19] <Kenpachi_> d [17:19] <taa> after that you got better though [17:19] <Kenpachi_> record irc [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> and i was the only one who pointed out the holes well [17:19] <Kenpachi_> for further usage [17:19] <Original|Laptop> this is getting copy pasted [17:19] <Original|Laptop> into thread [17:19] <Original|Laptop> when im done [17:19] <Kenpachi_> ok [17:19] <Kenpachi_> hi5 [17:19] <Original|Laptop> because this is good stuff [17:19] <Original|Laptop> im quite leaning [17:19] <Original|Laptop> LaL right now [17:19] <taa> dude [17:20] <taa> why did you say that [17:20] <Kenpachi_> ? [17:20] <Original|Laptop> why did i say what [17:20] <Kenpachi_> LaL [17:20] <Original|Laptop> that im adding this to thread? [17:20] <taa> ruins a perfectly good irc convo [17:20] <Original|Laptop> Because [17:20] <taa> ye [17:20] <Original|Laptop> it means [17:20] <Original|Laptop> i can be held accountable [17:20] <Original|Laptop> to makign sure [17:20] <Original|Laptop> people see this shit [17:20] <taa> ye [17:20] <taa> but you can just do it [17:20] <taa> and not say it in the irc [17:20] <Kenpachi_> well [17:20] <taa> thats so derpy [17:20] <Kenpachi_> why not [17:20] <Kenpachi_> ?? [17:20] <Original|Laptop> taa [17:20] <Original|Laptop> who gives a fuck [17:20] <taa> ok ok [17:20] <taa> also [17:20] <Original|Laptop> Your just trying to divert attention now [17:20] <Kenpachi_> im making sure anyways [17:21] <Original|Laptop> its just retarded [17:21] <taa> omg im so sneaky [17:21] <Original|Laptop> more antagonizing [17:21] <Original|Laptop> keep going [17:21] <Original|Laptop> its fun [17:21] <DoctorHelvetica> taa be helpful instead of defending yourself by mocking others [17:21] <Original|Laptop> IRC is my house [17:21] <DoctorHelvetica> thats not helping your case [17:21] <Original|Laptop> this is my specialty [17:21] <Original|Laptop> I can and will get in your face [17:21] <taa> ok ok [17:21] <taa> i gtg soon [17:22] <taa> so if you guys have any urgent questions [17:22] <taa> go ahead [17:22] <Original|Laptop> taa [17:22] <Original|Laptop> why the fuck [17:22] <Original|Laptop> did you claim vigilante [17:22] <taa> multiple reasons [17:22] <Original|Laptop> Name them [17:22] <Original|Laptop> now [17:22] <Kurumi> why friday isn't on youtube [17:22] <taa> yeah yeah [17:22] <Kurumi> fun fun fun [17:22] <taa> first of all [17:22] <Kurumi> looking forward to the weekend [17:22] <taa> jee jee wasnt reacting at all [17:22] <taa> that anoyed the crap out of me [17:22] <taa> i wanted to pressure him more [17:22] <taa> no one else was voting for him [17:23] <taa> second of all [17:23] <taa> i was sure [17:23] <Kenpachi_> lol [17:23] <taa> my claim [17:23] <Kurumi> gtg [17:23] <Kurumi> bye [17:23] <Kenpachi_> i expected that actually [17:23] <taa> was so obviously fake [17:23] == Kurumi [webchat@Kurumi.users.quakenet.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [17:23] <taa> kenpachi high five [17:23] <Original|Laptop> so taa [17:23] <taa> i dont understand why people think youre bad [17:23] <Original|Laptop> if he knew the claim was fake [17:23] <Kenpachi_> well [17:23] <Kenpachi_> your name [17:23] <Original|Laptop> cause it was obvious [17:23] <Kenpachi_> its one of the newer ones [17:23] <Kenpachi_> and newer names tend to be worse [17:23] <Original|Laptop> Then what does that accomplish? [17:23] <Kenpachi_> JeeJee is a vet [17:23] <Kenpachi_> lol [17:23] <taa> he is? [17:23] <Kenpachi_> yeah [17:23] <Kenpachi_> he played for a long time man [17:24] <taa> oh lol [17:24] <taa> i thought a real veteran [17:24] <taa> kenpachi stop distracting me [17:24] <Kenpachi_> >_> [17:24] <taa> it was a poke [17:24] <taa> you know [17:24] <Original|Laptop> it was a stupid poke [17:24] <taa> trying to get his attention [17:24] <Original|Laptop> ... [17:24] <taa> you think? [17:24] <Original|Laptop> ugggh [17:24] <Original|Laptop> Yes [17:24] <taa> look [17:24] <Original|Laptop> I think its stupid [17:24] <taa> your town right? [17:24] <taa> your upset right? [17:24] <Original|Laptop> Yes [17:24] <taa> why isnt he upset [17:24] <taa> like [17:25] <taa> who wouldnt react [17:25] <taa> also [17:25] <Original|Laptop> ugggh [17:25] <taa> i didnt really say it [17:25] <Original|Laptop> this is a mess [17:25] <taa> i implied it [17:25] <Original|Laptop> it really is [17:25] <Kenpachi_> so [17:25] <Kenpachi_> if i think about it [17:25] <mig__> taa you're claim was retarded [17:25] <Kenpachi_> maybe JeeJee isnt mafia? [17:25] <Original|Laptop> ^ [17:25] <Original|Laptop> wait [17:25] <taa> not nice mig [17:25] <Original|Laptop> that was at mig [17:25] <Original|Laptop> JeeJee and taa [17:25] <Kenpachi_> like [17:25] <mig__> and so you claimed it and didn't shoot and you weren't killed/rbd [17:25] <Original|Laptop> could completely be on a scumteam [17:25] <taa> nope [17:25] <taa> it was obv fake [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont think jeejee is scum [17:26] <taa> it also had a plus [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> in the first plce [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> lol [17:26] <Original|Laptop> im not sure [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> the case on him is not that good [17:26] <Original|Laptop> anymore [17:26] <taa> like [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> idk why people are so fucking confident [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> about him [17:26] <taa> i was sure mafia wouldnt hit me [17:26] <taa> if i claimed vigi [17:26] <Kenpachi_> well [17:26] <mig__> that makes a lot of sense [17:26] <Original|Laptop> Im not really confidant on anyone [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> i think bc is scum [17:26] <Original|Laptop> im just more confidant that bc isnt scum [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> DrH [17:26] <Kenpachi_> he basically chainsawed for varp [17:26] <Original|Laptop> then jeeJee [17:26] <mig__> it was very smart for you to ask for medics as well [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> thats all [17:26] <taa> bc acted like jeejee [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> if I was scum [17:26] <mig__> ask for medics when you are a lying vt [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> no second rber [17:26] <mig__> very good play [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> would be revealed [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> nor would I have lost a rber [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1 [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> wifom [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> -_- [17:26] <Kenpachi_> lol [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> no, its fact [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> i micromanage [17:26] <Original|Laptop> the first part i agree with [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> my teams [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> and you directed away [17:27] <Original|Laptop> the second part [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> from the [17:27] <Original|Laptop> was meh [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> every post they make [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> varp lynch [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> and ive been scum with you [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> I edit [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> and no you dont do that lol [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> uh i didnt with you as your not retarded [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> i was with others [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont remember you being that picky about anything [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> and You haven't been on a team with me in awhile [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> ok [17:27] <taa> but honestly [17:27] <taa> did any of you guys take that claim serious? [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> so your argument is a meta argument "well id dot his if i was scum" that doesnt clear you in my eyes but [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> if your behavior doesnt change by this day [17:27] <mig__> taa why did you ask for medics [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> i will bandwagon you tomorrow [17:27] <Original|Laptop> I did [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> no doubt about it [17:28] <Original|Laptop> after you asked for medics [17:28] <taa> i always do that [17:28] <Kenpachi_> Taa [17:28] <Kenpachi_> i did [17:28] <Original|Laptop> ... [17:28] <Kenpachi_> :D [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> do you think i'd be dumb enough to let a rber die day 1? [17:28] <Original|Laptop> uggh [17:28] <taa> also i die a lot [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:28] <Original|Laptop> Yet [17:28] <taa> so if i ask for a medic [17:28] <Original|Laptop> you do a suicidal move [17:28] <Original|Laptop> and expect to not die? [17:28] <Original|Laptop> ... [17:28] <DoctorHelvetica> im not getting into wifom [17:28] <Original|Laptop> And you take a medic [17:28] <taa> not by mafia any way [17:28] <taa> i took a medic? [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> you're already [17:28] <Original|Laptop> from players who are much more pro-town [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> wifoming [17:28] <Original|Laptop> you could have [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> taa [17:28] <Original|Laptop> for the record [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> so don't say you dont do it [17:28] <Original|Laptop> you dont know who medic protected [17:28] <DoctorHelvetica> im saying lal [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> something you agree with [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> since you wanted to lynch kenpachi off the bat [17:29] <Original|Laptop> I agree with LaL at this point [17:29] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:29] <Kenpachi_> huh [17:29] <BloodyC0bbler> kenpachi claimed green [17:29] <BloodyC0bbler>  [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> yes i know | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On August 02 2011 08:50 ghrur wrote: Okay, so we weight the benefits of confirmed townie vs possibly hitting a townie. Confirmed townie is definitely better. Have you heard how Ace talked about Masons in that Mafias #1 targets thread? It's because they're confirmed so easily. A confirmed townie is valuable, and that's just 1 person less to shoot at. Furthermore, even hitting a townie can give us a lot of information for our first official lynch. It also gives us new information to re-evaluate our thoughts. If he dies because mafia stacks, all the better. This means, if we miss, we killed 1 extra townie day 1, but also saved 1 extra townie night 1. Pretty even. If the Day Vig doesn't shoot, there is a chance that he gets sniped night 1, especially with all the talk about him. I think it's beneficial to have him shoot. The problem is... is there a Day Vig? o.O K so he's for the plan, but he WANTS TO LYNCH FOR INFORMATION. NEVER LYNCH FOR INFORMATION HOLY SHIT. He also say's that it's good that the confirmed townie will die...which was the whole issue with the plan. On August 02 2011 09:08 ghrur wrote: Yup, and if Mafia shoots player Y, and player Y dies, then clearly the medic isn't a medic but is mafia. :/ So if mafia tries to be medic, it effectively hurts them. Still supports the plan, but here he actually makes a nonsensical point. Nobody was suggesting the mafia would claim protecting someone and then shoot them instead... On August 03 2011 17:35 ghrur wrote: Yeah, I do. I played with Drazerk AA and he acted the same way. If I recall, it was basically a "Lynch Wiggles" post and then afk. I'm down for either varpulis or Kenpachi. I don't get why sandroba's supposed to have seemed town. I mean, looking back on the plan, I realize it's incredibly bad. and this post by sandroba docH, how is the simple fact that it's no longer day1 is going to make lynches more acurate down the line? If we can speed up the process and basically skip night 1 how is it possibly bad for town? What? He knows better than this. So the plan basically becomes let's out the dayvig and give mafia a free blue. :/ This is his very next post. Disagrees with a Drazerk lynch, and gives fucking awful meta reason to do so. This is not like AA at all lol. Here is the most important thing though. His last 3 posts were all behind the plan 100%!!! But now, with no explanation apart from, the plan sucks. He comes out and calls Sandroba scummy and says the plan is terrible. Did your mafia buddies tell you to do this in the QT???? On August 04 2011 07:21 ghrur wrote: Don't be a pessimist. I support the shooting of JeeJee He hasn't mentioned JeeJee at all before, yet posts saying he wants him shot with NO REASONING. also SCUMSLIP ALERT SCUMSLIP ALERT SCUMSLIP ALERT He says Don't be a pessimist in response to YM saying that scum is getting worse. Actual "scumslips" are very rare, but i'm fairly certain I just found one. On August 04 2011 08:19 ghrur wrote: Redff: Yes, I understand lynching for information was bad. I was making the point that losing 3 townies is losing 3 townies until I realized day-vigis get 2 shots so we still effectively lose a vigi, and later shots are more accurate. Why did I change positions? I argued with DrH about this in Mafia IRC and reconsidered my position. Neither was I... I was stating how fake-claims by mafia would hurt them under the plan... Like, do you not understand that that was a continuation of thought from what Curu said? >_> Also, you're tunneling by the third "point." Did you not read "looking back?" I re-evaluated my position. Would you like to hear why I realize it's a bad plan? A. It lures out a confirmed townie and ends up with him getting shot. B. We lose a vigi shot early with the opportunity cost of getting a better shot later on. C. Vigis get 2 shots, so even if Dayvig dies, it's not a confirmed townie that dies, but a confirmed blue. D. Instead of ending up with 3 greens dead if mafia stacks, we end up with 2 greens dead and 1 blue dead. Much worse. So what does this effectively do? Lure out a blue for mafia to kill! Why would Sandroba suggest such a plan then! Why was I stupid enough to support it? Because I was stupid. I never mentioned JeeJee before... except in IRC and talking about it to TAA. Guess what? I also find Munk-E scummy but I've never mentioned him before in thread either. I don't post everything I think. K, so first of all he said he re-evauluated his position, but at the time gave no reasons why, just "realized it was a bad plan" After i call him out on this though he regurgitates a bunch of reasons already made multiple times in the thread. GJ DUDE. K apparently he's been doing lots of scumhunting and has thought about JEEJEE and MUnk-e but is not posting it in the thread. I SWEAR GUYS IVE BEEN ACTIVELY SCUMHUNTING AND THINKING ABOUT PLAYERS BUT I WONT POST MY THOUGHTS IN THE THREAD. This is ridiculous, here's where it gets really awesome. Then i posted this On August 04 2011 08:23 redFF wrote: lol ur scum I got called scummy for talking about stuff on the public irc channel, your talking about all your reads in pms to a couple of people. that is scummy as fuck. Please post your thoughts on both JeeJee and Munk-E. you have 10 minutes because if you already talked about it to other then i assume you will be able to post about it.. On August 04 2011 08:25 ghrur wrote: What? I talked about it in the public IRC channel except for TAA whom i just talked in IRC privately. And to be honest, I don't really care. Lol. I'm not gonna bullshit an analysis in 10 minutes to protect you so you can tunnel me harder. It wouldnt be bullshit if you have already discussed these players in length outside the thread would it? Stalling for time mr.scum.... On August 04 2011 11:32 ghrur wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 04 2011 08:53 redFF wrote: alanismorisette: ghrur ur mafia too stfu [7:57pm] alanismorisette: post that analysis [7:57pm] alanismorisette: its not bullshit if you have already discussed it with people [7:57pm] alanismorisette: just post what you talked about with them [7:57pm] alanismorisette: quick! [7:57pm] ghrur: It's been past 10 minutes [7:57pm] ghrur: My deadline is gone [7:58pm] ghrur: and I wanna play basketball [7:58pm] alanismorisette: ... [7:58pm] ghrur: Besides, I already said [7:58pm] chaos13 joined the chat room. [7:58pm] ghrur: I didn't save the chat log [7:58pm] alanismorisette: doesnt matter [7:58pm] ghrur: Ask TAA if he has it [7:58pm] alanismorisette: just post the gist of ur position on them [7:58pm] alanismorisette: easy [7:58pm] alanismorisette: just do that for me [7:58pm] ghrur: Sure, I'll do it [7:58pm] ghrur: But I'd rather play basketball [7:58pm] alanismorisette: ... [7:58pm] ghrur: I'll post it afterwards kay? [7:58pm] alanismorisette: do it please [7:58pm] alanismorisette: no [7:58pm] alanismorisette: now [7:58pm] ghrur: No, real life > mafia [7:58pm] alanismorisette: im sorry but everyone is seeing this right [7:59pm] alanismorisette: it will take [7:59pm] alanismorisette: like 5 minutes [7:59pm] alanismorisette: dude [7:59pm] youngmin: i'm laughing my ass off [7:59pm] alanismorisette: you could have finished it by now [7:59pm] ghrur: ??? YM? [7:59pm] ghrur: Cya later [7:59pm] ghrur: <3 [7:59pm] alanismorisette: but instead you are gonna go think about it [7:59pm] ghrur: I'll post it after [7:59pm] youngmin: lolololol [7:59pm] alanismorisette: then post it [7:59pm] alanismorisette: ... [7:59pm] ghrur: Yes, I didn't need to think about my defense [7:59pm] ghrur: <3 [7:59pm] ghrur: Cya [8:00pm] alanismorisette: ... fuck this guy HAHAHAHAHAHA, sorry red. xD No, I really did go play basketball, hahaha. I didn't mean any ill will. Hahahaha. I'm glad YM had a good laugh though. Besides, 10 minutes had passed and nothing happened. Anyway, down to business. Why Munk-E? + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [monk-e's analysis] + On August 03 2011 07:21 Munk-E wrote: Below is some analysis of varpulis' posts i'll do more people later. Here he says to not shoot day 1, unless you want to that is, then just reveal your plan forcing you to shoot anyways because you're gonna die, because you revealed your role. I don't see his opinion, because he keeps changing it in this post. at the beginning he says to not shoot, as always and it is especially important in this game, followed by him saying it's okay for dayvigs to shoot. Furthermore he tells them to claim before shooting! Claiming is a death sentence, and it means they'd have to shoot to take people down with them, because they're gonna die anyway. As an aside, does anyone know what his favorite role is? So, here he fully supports the plan again despite his own extra important rule of not shooting day 1. He first says no shooting, then says maybe IF you make sure your going to get yourself killed, and finally now he's all for it! Here he will eat his hat if his plan that he loves so much which goes against his extra important rule actually works... this is after being asked why he likes the plan after he gave his own piece of evidence against it (above)! He gives no answer. Instead, he reverts to a compromise of his beloved plan. and no varpulis, it's a 20% chance. I'm not willing to take that risk, especially because it's roughly the same odds we'll hit a blue. Here his is accusing redff for taking the position of the argument HE'S taking! (Maybe he lost track by now!) It seems like he's just trying to accuse someone for the sake of accusing! Wishy-washy doesn't even begin to explain this. He just won't make up his mind! While I'm not sure this indicates him 100% as being scum, it is VERY suspicious. Unfortunately however, I don't think it's possible to brand him as scum from JUST this. but he's certainly quite possibly scum. + Show Spoiler [missed post] + On August 03 2011 07:34 Lucidity wrote: I think you missed one of Varpulis' important posts Munk-E: Well, in his analysis of Varpulis, notice first that he misses an important post which Lucidity points out. He seemed to be doing a post-by-post style analysis (which btw, is bad), yet misses that important post? Why? To hid Varpulis's scumminess. To be nicer to his teammate. Also notice in this analysis how adamant he is with the attack on Varpulis. He uses multiple exclamation points, capitalization for emphasis, and even calls him VERY suspicious. BUT WAIT! He backs out of it. Notice: I'm not sure this indicates him 100% as being scum but he's certainly quite possibly scum. Certainly quite possibly scum. LOL. I have never seen more wishy-washyness than that. Hahaha, god. That's just backing out of it completely man. Oh, and notice how there's no vote until nearly the end of the day, probably to bus. Oh, and he never votes in the voting thread (booooooooooo). Now, on Munk-E's next analysis, his style totally changes! Someone in Loonybin pointed this out: Munk-E's posts go like this - 1. Stuff about plan. 2. Play-by-play "analysis" 3. Normal, concise analysis. How does one person's posting style change that much? I don't know, seems like he has a team behind him. Look at his arguments as well. Are they new? Are they original? Or are they just parroting OriginalName? Yeah, they're just parroting ON's analysis that Varp was wishy-washy. Note this remark too. On August 04 2011 03:53 Munk-E wrote:He seems VERY eager to get everyone's opinion on everyone, he PMed me asking my opinion on chaos and varp, to which i responded blandly and generically. I don't get why that's bad. It's good that Mig is trying to get people's opinions out and into the open. It's also good that he's pressuring people and using PMs well. Calling that scummy is just trying to stifle PMs and opinions.On August 04 2011 03:53 Munk-E wrote:I don't see why activity is a "town" thing to do. and why lurking is a mafia thing really, especially if being a lurker makes them suspected as being mafia. (Meta, huh?) Anyway, i might vote for him depending on if i think lucidity is more scummy or not Activity is of course good for town because this means we get more to analyze. Stifling activity and supporting lurking is just trying to ruin the town atmosphere. Mig did nothing wrong, even with his words, yet he's attacking him randomly. Why? Why is he also jumping from person to person and throwing out random accusations that don't even make sense? Why doesn't h vote for either of the people he analyzed? To get the town in chaos. To get votes off of Varpulis. Also, if he suspected Lucidity, why doesn't he analyze HIM instead? Now, keep this in mind when you read this: On August 04 2011 06:33 Munk-E wrote: TBH, It would have been a toss up between varp and lucid for me, but I haven't done proper analysis of lucid, so voting for him would look VERY suspicious. I think both are scum anyway. Where is Mig in this equation? Why wouldn't he mention Mig if he did a full blown analysis calling him suspicious? That makes no sense... unless he did it just to seem town. If he found Lucid suspicious, he should've analyzed Lucidity first instead of going after Mig. Unless he's just trying to cast doubt, out one of our top scumhunters, seem town in the process through analysis posts, and end up not voting for them until the end of the day. :/ Yeah, seems about right. Now, onto JeeJee. + Show Spoiler + On August 03 2011 01:41 JeeJee wrote: pressure votes are stupid, where did this trend come from? you know when you say "yeah this is a pressure vote", that's pretty much equivalent to "idk who to vote so i'm voting you, but i'm not actually suspicious of you because all you need to do is say something and i'll remove my vote from you". nobody can seriously feel threatened from a pressure vote, so there's no 'pressure' it's just a throwaway vote Okay, this post was stupid. yes, pressure votes are bad. No, you do not need to point them out. If the person being pressured doesn't know this, they might slip up. Now that he knows this, the chances are lessened. Why would you post this? It provides no benefit to town, and only serves to help mafia. I'm not arguing against the logic here, but the purpose. It serves no good purpose. i see re-evaluation there, not wishy-washiness. do you see otherwise? random fos are just as useless as pressure votes. sandro and varp are both bad in that department as far as i'm concerned. by itself though, it doesn't mean much, and there's nothing else yet. as for me, i don't have scum leanings on anyone. town leans yes, scum leans no. Defense of Varp, and aside from that, no information really. I mean, he seems to suspect YM at this point, but doesn't say anything about it. Not even a scum lean? Really? Hmmmmm, Idk. still not voting, but i'll be here before the deadline tomorrow, no worries. Wishy washyyyyyyyyyyy. Yeah... why would you call someone scum and then not vote? I don't know. On August 03 2011 12:42 JeeJee wrote: actually screw it let's get the ball rolling. anyone disagree with drazerk as a candidate? Why would you ask if other people disagree? Who cares if other people disagree? You still push them anyway. They'll voice their disagreements anyway. Do you need town's permission or something? No! So why all the caution? Serves no purpose. On August 04 2011 05:14 JeeJee wrote: i still think the case against varp is terrible. it's pretty much equivalent to redff's case, which is equally bad. drazerk is still deliberately avoiding this thread while posting in others but sadly not enough people care. seems to be off to a wonderful start. This is just saying, yes, you lynched a mafia, but you're still not off to a good start. It doesn't mean much. Well, why wouldn't it? We lynched scum, we have voting records, and we have defenses. He defended Varp. He's trying to justify it in this post. He's trying to throw off suspicion. I don't like it. He also shifts the attention off the Varp lynch and onto Drazerk again. Why do that? The lynch means a lot since a red just died. Focus on it. :/ Seems like he's throwing doubt around with that remark. After waiting a couple of hours to actually make analysis's of these 2 players. He basically regurgitates what others (BC) have said about jeejee and then calls pbpas bad and does 2 lol. All his points about other players being scum come down to them being "wishy washy". Shitty post. Shitty analysis. More evidence as to how these guys are scumbuddies. On August 05 2011 02:52 ghrur wrote:He also calls him out for being wishy-washy, against meta, and scummy. Meanwhile, he says Drazerk's meta doesn't fit his scum. Idk why a vote wasn't placed on Varp by him unless he is scum. That's literally the only way you scumhunt and all the reasons you use for calling people scum and then you call someone else out on it. Please read and reread this this bitch be mafia broz ##Vote Ghrur | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
i think taa is just cocky shitty town. he thinks he played well in arkham so now thinks he is BOSSMODE and is trying to do some retarded shit because he thinks he is the greatest mafia player in the world. Town read imo. LaL isn't good when its fairly clear its just some newbie who thinks he is hot shit. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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Lucidity
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On August 05 2011 07:45 Lucidity wrote: Please do not claim to Mig. why? i already did ah | ||
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
So we've already found 2 scum in redFF and DoctorHelvetica who are opposing the plan without any real reasons? Good stuff. A confirmed townie coordinating blues is brilliant. The only problem I can see is if scum impersonates medics. That could give away blue roles/leave our soldier vulnerable. Solution? Just have all medics protect the soldier for night 1. 1 Night of coordinated abilities is quite powerful and we'll have more info on Day 2. this first post is very VERY for the plan to the point that he immediately calls scum on people for it. They both later attacked him for this, and Redff even voted to lynch him. I think he is WAY to for the plan here without even considering the consequences. It seems scummy to me to pressure people that disagree with you. On August 02 2011 08:29 Lucidity wrote: 1. Medics are basically the only problem I see at the moment. I don't think that qualifies as a reason to instantly discard the plan. 2. Having Mafia stack hits reduces their KP, which isn't a bad thing. We'll still have no overlaps on Night 1 from blues. 3. What? 4. That's the case on Day 2 as well. Another terrible attempt to stop the plan. Why would he be suggesting that? Here DH is defending himself from lucidity's aggressiveness quite well, however he just continues to press the issue. He is still calling scum for having a different opinion here. He would give an arm and a leg for this plan it seems at this point. On August 02 2011 09:01 Lucidity wrote: How will he figure out who the other vig shots are aimed at? How will a fake medic find out who the other medics are protecting? Who said the plan is faultless? I think I'll take your advice and vote for you! ##vote redFF Here he votes for redFF (But doesn't actually vote for him). I find it strange that he's THIS passionate this early on in the game! I mean seriously WTF? He is given A LOT of reasons why the plan is dumb, but he refuses to hear it! He just keeps accusing! Haha, I guess I was still in the Asylum mindset with mass blue everywhere - somehow thought that all 7 blue roles listed would be in the game. ~4 blues make sense and we're very unlikely to have 2 medics in that, so a plan to coordinate them this early isn't actually that great. I think the only time that we should be claiming is if Mafia only have 1 KP left or if a Day Vig hits a Vet, leaving us with 2 confirmed townies. One of them will survive the night and be able to pass on info~ redFF, forever RED? By this point, most people were against the plan. Yeah... I'm not sure how much I buy that defense of "Oops, klutzy me! I thought there'd be more medics!" as an excuse to completely change his mind from "This plan is so good that everyone against it is obviously scum" to. "This plan is stupid!" This is the scummiest post I think he's made. I mean it would be hard to make that transition, and it losing popularity requires you to if your against it so hard and you want to be in the majority. and why would you want to be in the majority so bad? If you're scum. On August 03 2011 04:49 Lucidity wrote: Lol dude wtf? I'm struggling to find any non-scum motive for wanting such a claim. Could you provide me with one? And you're focused on maintaining your appearance as an active townie instead of hunting scum? Good stuff. Mig's going crazy at people for not providing great posts on IRC, yet he's not doing what he's hounding others to do? Scum often employ such strategies. What's the dealio, yo? This post astonished me. At first i thought since he voted for varp after it was the bandwagony thing to do. However, if you look at the time, at the time of this post Varp only had 2 votes for him from a while ago. This post sort of STARTS the bandwagon on varp! I don't know if this was intentional or not, but WTF! Up until now I was sure lucidity was scum, but this makes me wonder! If it's such a waste of time why are you dedicating any time at all to it anymore? I don't think there has been serious majority support for the plan for long now, so there's no reason for you to talk about it. Every Day 1 has to start in some useless way before there's something to discuss. Why not use the posts that have been generated by this plan to start some discussion which you think might be useful? Here he is completely against the plan now. He was so for it at first and now is completely against it. He even states that no one is for it anymore. His backing of the plan is directly proportional to it's overall popularity. He just wants to blend in, like a chameleon that works for the mafia. In the end, I just don't know! He's VERY scummy with his bandwagon hopping when it comes to the plan, and sure he only voted varp after the bandwagon was rolling, but he was in second and might have done that to avoid being lynched, not to seem inconspicuous.if varp had flipped town, i would think he'd definitely be mafia, but he started a bandwagon on varp, it may be accidental for all i know and he was just trying to distance himself, but it seems strange that he would do this. P.S. sorry about not talking at night i didn't know it was a rule. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On August 04 2011 04:43 Barundar wrote: Activity level has been so low all day, and varpulis defense so bad, that I don't think he can be scum. Of luci drazek and JeeJee, JeeJee seems like the scummiest to me. #Vote JeeJee That is not a good reason to vote. On August 04 2011 09:33 Barundar wrote: Mig was the one starting the case on varpulis, posting the initial analysis and pressuring him through the day. I consider ON and DrH town as well though. As a side note Trotske is most likely town based on Varpulis' FoS. I wouldn't DT check JeeJee or BC, if mafia they are most likely to be the godfather. why because you know one of them will come back as mafia??? talk more please. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
what makes me wonder is that why did the mafia not swing the bandwagon onto lucidity. jeejee/drazerk came under fire instead, that is bothering me and mig | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> LAL [17:18] <Yonista> it would be stupid to claim [17:18] <mig__> hey how about this [17:18] <Yonista> obvious fake [17:18] <mig__> why did they rb ken [17:18] == Yonista has changed nick to Lucidity [17:18] <mig__> and not TAA [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> who the fuck is yonista [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> ok [17:18] <Original|Laptop> LAL is sounding pretty good atm [17:18] <Kenpachi_> \o\ [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> yes [17:18] <Kenpachi_> i dunno [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> lal [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> all taa has done in this game as far as i ecall [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> is fos people and not follow through [17:18] <Original|Laptop> is claim [17:18] <Original|Laptop> and fos [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> and accuse people of being scum in irc [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> then [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> not argue his case [17:18] <Kenpachi_> and claim vig [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> he called me scum here too [17:18] <taa> drH [17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> then didn't do anything [17:19] <taa> still upset [17:19] <taa> ? :p [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> and he said i didn't contribute and he couldn't back it up lol [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> upset about what [17:19] <Original|Laptop> now hes pulling the umad card [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> you're being antagonistic again make a real point [17:19] <taa> you were talking so much about sandys plan [17:19] <Original|Laptop> So was everyone else [17:19] <taa> you deserved to be called out [17:19] <Kenpachi_> someone shoul [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> that was the topic of discussion at the time [17:19] <Kenpachi_> d [17:19] <taa> after that you got better though [17:19] <Kenpachi_> record irc [17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> and i was the only one who pointed out the holes well [17:19] <Kenpachi_> for further usage [17:19] <Original|Laptop> this is getting copy pasted [17:19] <Original|Laptop> into thread [17:19] <Original|Laptop> when im done [17:19] <Kenpachi_> ok [17:19] <Kenpachi_> hi5 [17:19] <Original|Laptop> because this is good stuff [17:19] <Original|Laptop> im quite leaning [17:19] <Original|Laptop> LaL right now [17:19] <taa> dude [17:20] <taa> why did you say that [17:20] <Kenpachi_> ? [17:20] <Original|Laptop> why did i say what [17:20] <Kenpachi_> LaL [17:20] <Original|Laptop> that im adding this to thread? [17:20] <taa> ruins a perfectly good irc convo [17:20] <Original|Laptop> Because [17:20] <taa> ye [17:20] <Original|Laptop> it means [17:20] <Original|Laptop> i can be held accountable [17:20] <Original|Laptop> to makign sure [17:20] <Original|Laptop> people see this shit [17:20] <taa> ye [17:20] <taa> but you can just do it [17:20] <taa> and not say it in the irc [17:20] <Kenpachi_> well [17:20] <taa> thats so derpy [17:20] <Kenpachi_> why not [17:20] <Kenpachi_> ?? [17:20] <Original|Laptop> taa [17:20] <Original|Laptop> who gives a fuck [17:20] <taa> ok ok [17:20] <taa> also [17:20] <Original|Laptop> Your just trying to divert attention now [17:20] <Kenpachi_> im making sure anyways [17:21] <Original|Laptop> its just retarded [17:21] <taa> omg im so sneaky [17:21] <Original|Laptop> more antagonizing [17:21] <Original|Laptop> keep going [17:21] <Original|Laptop> its fun [17:21] <DoctorHelvetica> taa be helpful instead of defending yourself by mocking others [17:21] <Original|Laptop> IRC is my house [17:21] <DoctorHelvetica> thats not helping your case [17:21] <Original|Laptop> this is my specialty [17:21] <Original|Laptop> I can and will get in your face [17:21] <taa> ok ok [17:21] <taa> i gtg soon [17:22] <taa> so if you guys have any urgent questions [17:22] <taa> go ahead [17:22] <Original|Laptop> taa [17:22] <Original|Laptop> why the fuck [17:22] <Original|Laptop> did you claim vigilante [17:22] <taa> multiple reasons [17:22] <Original|Laptop> Name them [17:22] <Original|Laptop> now [17:22] <Kurumi> why friday isn't on youtube [17:22] <taa> yeah yeah [17:22] <Kurumi> fun fun fun [17:22] <taa> first of all [17:22] <Kurumi> looking forward to the weekend [17:22] <taa> jee jee wasnt reacting at all [17:22] <taa> that anoyed the crap out of me [17:22] <taa> i wanted to pressure him more [17:22] <taa> no one else was voting for him [17:23] <taa> second of all [17:23] <taa> i was sure [17:23] <Kenpachi_> lol [17:23] <taa> my claim [17:23] <Kurumi> gtg [17:23] <Kurumi> bye [17:23] <Kenpachi_> i expected that actually [17:23] <taa> was so obviously fake [17:23] == Kurumi [webchat@Kurumi.users.quakenet.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [17:23] <taa> kenpachi high five [17:23] <Original|Laptop> so taa [17:23] <taa> i dont understand why people think youre bad [17:23] <Original|Laptop> if he knew the claim was fake [17:23] <Kenpachi_> well [17:23] <Kenpachi_> your name [17:23] <Original|Laptop> cause it was obvious [17:23] <Kenpachi_> its one of the newer ones [17:23] <Kenpachi_> and newer names tend to be worse [17:23] <Original|Laptop> Then what does that accomplish? [17:23] <Kenpachi_> JeeJee is a vet [17:23] <Kenpachi_> lol [17:23] <taa> he is? [17:23] <Kenpachi_> yeah [17:23] <Kenpachi_> he played for a long time man [17:24] <taa> oh lol [17:24] <taa> i thought a real veteran [17:24] <taa> kenpachi stop distracting me [17:24] <Kenpachi_> >_> [17:24] <taa> it was a poke [17:24] <taa> you know [17:24] <Original|Laptop> it was a stupid poke [17:24] <taa> trying to get his attention [17:24] <Original|Laptop> ... [17:24] <taa> you think? [17:24] <Original|Laptop> ugggh [17:24] <Original|Laptop> Yes [17:24] <taa> look [17:24] <Original|Laptop> I think its stupid [17:24] <taa> your town right? [17:24] <taa> your upset right? [17:24] <Original|Laptop> Yes [17:24] <taa> why isnt he upset [17:24] <taa> like [17:25] <taa> who wouldnt react [17:25] <taa> also [17:25] <Original|Laptop> ugggh [17:25] <taa> i didnt really say it [17:25] <Original|Laptop> this is a mess [17:25] <taa> i implied it [17:25] <Original|Laptop> it really is [17:25] <Kenpachi_> so [17:25] <Kenpachi_> if i think about it [17:25] <mig__> taa you're claim was retarded [17:25] <Kenpachi_> maybe JeeJee isnt mafia? [17:25] <Original|Laptop> ^ [17:25] <Original|Laptop> wait [17:25] <taa> not nice mig [17:25] <Original|Laptop> that was at mig [17:25] <Original|Laptop> JeeJee and taa [17:25] <Kenpachi_> like [17:25] <mig__> and so you claimed it and didn't shoot and you weren't killed/rbd [17:25] <Original|Laptop> could completely be on a scumteam [17:25] <taa> nope [17:25] <taa> it was obv fake [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont think jeejee is scum [17:26] <taa> it also had a plus [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> in the first plce [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> lol [17:26] <Original|Laptop> im not sure [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> the case on him is not that good [17:26] <Original|Laptop> anymore [17:26] <taa> like [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> idk why people are so fucking confident [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> about him [17:26] <taa> i was sure mafia wouldnt hit me [17:26] <taa> if i claimed vigi [17:26] <Kenpachi_> well [17:26] <mig__> that makes a lot of sense [17:26] <Original|Laptop> Im not really confidant on anyone [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> i think bc is scum [17:26] <Original|Laptop> im just more confidant that bc isnt scum [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> DrH [17:26] <Kenpachi_> he basically chainsawed for varp [17:26] <Original|Laptop> then jeeJee [17:26] <mig__> it was very smart for you to ask for medics as well [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> thats all [17:26] <taa> bc acted like jeejee [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> if I was scum [17:26] <mig__> ask for medics when you are a lying vt [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> no second rber [17:26] <mig__> very good play [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> would be revealed [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> nor would I have lost a rber [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1 [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> wifom [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> -_- [17:26] <Kenpachi_> lol [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> no, its fact [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> i micromanage [17:26] <Original|Laptop> the first part i agree with [17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> my teams [17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> and you directed away [17:27] <Original|Laptop> the second part [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> from the [17:27] <Original|Laptop> was meh [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> every post they make [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> varp lynch [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> and ive been scum with you [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> I edit [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> and no you dont do that lol [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> uh i didnt with you as your not retarded [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> i was with others [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont remember you being that picky about anything [17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> and You haven't been on a team with me in awhile [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> ok [17:27] <taa> but honestly [17:27] <taa> did any of you guys take that claim serious? [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> so your argument is a meta argument "well id dot his if i was scum" that doesnt clear you in my eyes but [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> if your behavior doesnt change by this day [17:27] <mig__> taa why did you ask for medics [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> i will bandwagon you tomorrow [17:27] <Original|Laptop> I did [17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> no doubt about it [17:28] <Original|Laptop> after you asked for medics [17:28] <taa> i always do that [17:28] <Kenpachi_> Taa [17:28] <Kenpachi_> i did [17:28] <Original|Laptop> ... [17:28] <Kenpachi_> :D [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> do you think i'd be dumb enough to let a rber die day 1? [17:28] <Original|Laptop> uggh [17:28] <taa> also i die a lot [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:28] <Original|Laptop> Yet [17:28] <taa> so if i ask for a medic [17:28] <Original|Laptop> you do a suicidal move [17:28] <Original|Laptop> and expect to not die? [17:28] <Original|Laptop> ... [17:28] <DoctorHelvetica> im not getting into wifom [17:28] <Original|Laptop> And you take a medic [17:28] <taa> not by mafia any way [17:28] <taa> i took a medic? [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> you're already [17:28] <Original|Laptop> from players who are much more pro-town [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> wifoming [17:28] <Original|Laptop> you could have [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> taa [17:28] <Original|Laptop> for the record [17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> so don't say you dont do it [17:28] <Original|Laptop> you dont know who medic protected [17:28] <DoctorHelvetica> im saying lal [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> something you agree with [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> since you wanted to lynch kenpachi off the bat [17:29] <Original|Laptop> I agree with LaL at this point [17:29] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:29] <Kenpachi_> huh [17:29] <BloodyC0bbler> kenpachi claimed green [17:29] <BloodyC0bbler> [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> yes i know [17:29] <Kenpachi_> i [17:29] <Kenpachi_> i [17:29] <Kenpachi_> i [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> taa claimed vig which was a lie and didn't get shot or roleblocked [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> thats way worse [17:29] <Kenpachi_> I thought scouts were green [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> we all know kenpachi is dumb that gives him leeway [17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> taa doesnt have that privelege [17:30] <taa> lol [17:30] <Kenpachi_> now i feel bad [17:30] <taa> i still think it was a good move [17:30] <Lucidity> you guys must be a blast to be around [17:30] <Lucidity> i r l [17:30] <taa> kenpachi i think ur smart <3 [17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> how was it a good move you accomplished nothing [17:30] <Lucidity> with these superiority complexes [17:30] <taa> well [17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> jeejee doesn't look any more or less scummy because of what you did [17:30] <Kenpachi_> it might have accomplished something [17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> now you're on the chopping block for lying [17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> something [17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> only scum ever have to do [17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> and it shoudl stay that way [17:31] <taa> hmm [17:31] <DoctorHelvetica> town bluff plans are stupid unless they're sure traps [17:31] <taa> look [17:31] <Original|Laptop> Yo mig/bc/red/barunder/lucid [17:31] <Original|Laptop> what do you guys think [17:31] <Original|Laptop> of this [17:31] <DoctorHelvetica> youre just as annoying lucidity [17:31] <redafk> btw guys [17:31] <Lucidity> yes yes I"m dumb [17:31] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont think kenpachi is dumb im just teasing him he's silly [17:31] <redafk> i think taa [17:31] <Kenpachi_> why are you accussing ghrur [17:31] <redafk> is just cocky shitty town [17:31] <taa> why would a vigi so carelessly claim vigi [17:31] <taa> it doesnt make sense [17:31] <redafk> he thinks he played well in arkham [17:32] <redafk> so now thinks he is BOSSMODE [17:32] <DoctorHelvetica> wifom you lied and nothing happened to you at night [17:32] <DoctorHelvetica> if we have a dumb mafia like BC thinks [17:32] <DoctorHelvetica> im surprised nothing happened [17:32] <redafk> and is pulling off retarded shit because he thinks he is the greatest mafia player in the world [17:32] <DoctorHelvetica> i didnt say you're dumb lucidity i said you're annoying [17:33] <taa> Ok JeeJee, since you are probably not going to get lynched im going to hit you tonight. Unless you can convince me of your own innocence, and someone else's scummyness (yes im trigger happy) [17:33] <taa> would someone seriously claim vigi that way? [17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> yes [17:33] <Original|Laptop> yes [17:33] <BloodyC0bbler> yes [17:33] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:33] <taa> yes? [17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> yeah [17:33] <taa> thats so weird [17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> on tl [17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> sure [17:33] <Lucidity> I thought it was obviously fake [17:33] <BloodyC0bbler> TL people play [17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> people suck here lol [17:33] <BloodyC0bbler> weird [17:33] <Lucidity> but what's the point in doing it then? [17:33] <Original|Laptop> its called breadclaiming [17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> there is no point [17:33] <Lucidity> You're not going to draw scum bullets then [17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> thats why its dumb [17:34] <redafk> i posted my thoughs on taa [17:34] <DoctorHelvetica> either way its dumb [17:34] <redafk> in the thread [17:34] <taa> look [17:34] <redafk> think im fairly spot on [17:34] <taa> you guys know how claiming VT is bad right? [17:34] <Original|Laptop> VR? [17:34] == redafk has changed nick to redFF1 [17:34] <Original|Laptop> oh [17:34] <Original|Laptop> vanilla townie [17:34] <taa> think of that scene [17:34] <taa> where everyone steps forth [17:34] <redFF1> taa please lecture us on mafia if your so damn good [17:34] <Lucidity> someone still has to explain that one to me [17:34] <Kenpachi_> Taa [17:34] <taa> I AM SPARTACUS [17:34] <Kenpachi_> there are many people who claim like that [17:34] <Kenpachi_> Pandain, Coagulation [17:34] <redFF1> taa i understand that as townie u wanna get shot to save blue roles [17:34] <Original|Laptop> Me [17:35] <redFF1> but [17:35] <redFF1> you dont claim fucking vigilante [17:35] == Drazerk [webchat@5ad3d1da.bb.sky.com] has joined #loonybin [17:35] <Original|Laptop> uggggggh [17:35] <taa> dude [17:35] <redFF1> and then expect everyone go oh yeha he town [17:37] <BloodyC0bbler> oh as a random note [17:37] <BloodyC0bbler> i figured out one random reason [17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> why troske would take a bullet [17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> although its heavily wifomish [17:38] <redFF1> say it [17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> and not usable as real proof [17:38] <taa> enlighten us [17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> sevryn [17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> same ip [17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> jackal and coag shoot eachother [17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> for the same reason [17:38] <Original|Laptop> ... [17:38] <Original|Laptop> Sevryn has also done [17:38] <Original|Laptop> jackshit [17:38] <Original|Laptop> all game [17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> yep [17:38] <Original|Laptop> its not a half bad theory [17:38] <Original|Laptop> tbh [17:38] <Drazerk> BANDWAGON HERO [17:39] <redFF1> so wait [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> its not half bad [17:39] <Drazerk> [17:39] <redFF1> what? [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> but [17:39] <redFF1> im confused [17:39] <Drazerk> severyn [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> its still unprovable [17:39] <Drazerk> bandwagoner [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> sevryn and troske or roommates [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> or family [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> or something [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> same ip addy [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> as such if the other is red [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> is stands reason they would shoot the person [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> who could call them out in person no? [17:39] <Drazerk> lol [17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> lying in text is a fuck ton harder than lying in person [17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:40] <taa> its a mafia team though [17:40] <taa> its not sevryn vs the world [17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> eh? if your down a man [17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> and one person can easy peg someone on that team [17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> you kill them [17:40] <taa> i guess ur right [17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> im not saying "hey guys sevryn is deff red" [17:40] <taa> trotske was also obv town [17:40] <taa> like [17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> but it stands as a valid reason why anyone would waste a shot [17:40] <redFF1> lol [17:40] <redFF1> k [17:40] <taa> we did some private digging into mig [17:41] <taa> but [17:41] <redFF1> taa: why did you fakeclaim vigi [17:41] <redFF1> btw [17:41] <taa> any other reason sevryn might be scum? [17:41] <taa> lol [17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> trotske could be obvious town [17:41] <redFF1> im not listening to anything u say [17:41] <redFF1> this game [17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> but hes not good enough [17:41] <redFF1> because i thin you are retarded [17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> to actually lead a town [17:41] <taa> this whole irc convo is getting copied in the trhread [17:41] <redFF1> yeah [17:41] <redFF1> trotske [17:41] <redFF1> is not good [17:41] <Original|Laptop> the first part already is [17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> he makes no sense [17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> as a shot [17:41] <redFF1> blue snipe is only think [17:41] <redFF1> that [17:41] <redFF1> or he pmd a scum [17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> unless its a blue snipe [17:42] <BloodyC0bbler> yea [17:42] <redFF1> saying something [17:42] <Drazerk> TAA - If it wasn't I would think you was all scum [17:42] <Drazerk> [17:42] <taa> if what wasnt? [17:42] <Drazerk> recording IRC [17:43] <taa> :s [17:43] <Drazerk> Its like our greatest weapon and time zones hurt our chances if it isn't recorded [17:43] <BloodyC0bbler> and more discussion happens here [17:43] <BloodyC0bbler> than in thread [17:43] <taa> yeah [17:43] <taa> wich is bad imo [17:44] <DoctorHelvetica> yeah thats why i wish we didnt have an irc lol [17:44] <taa> to me it seems like he still is trying to set up a fake vig / vet claim to find the blues. add this scumminess to redFF's post and I feel we have a pretty good case vs Lucidity. ##Vote Lucidity [17:44] <Original|Laptop> if I ever do a Pm game [17:44] <Original|Laptop> im banning IRC [17:44] <taa> trotske initially vote lucidity [17:44] <DoctorHelvetica> easier to keep up with a thread [17:44] <Original|Laptop> except for scum [17:44] <redFF1> yeah taa [17:44] <redFF1> isnt scum [17:45] <redFF1> hes just a fucking idiot [17:45] <taa> not nice man [17:45] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [17:45] <Original|Laptop> Its true [17:45] <Original|Laptop> brb eating [17:45] <taa> i honestly thought no one would take it serious [17:45] <BloodyC0bbler> so you were trying [17:45] <BloodyC0bbler> to not get shot? [17:45] <taa> but that could qualify me as an idiot [17:46] <taa> partly [17:46] <taa> it had a lot of good points [17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> if you have no power role [17:46] <taa> postulating no one would take it serious [17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> why would you not aim to breadcrumb [17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> a role [17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> to get shot [17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> rather than make up shit [17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> to avoid getting hit [17:46] <taa> good point [17:46] <taa> i did a little of both [17:46] <redFF1> taa read my post on u [17:46] <taa> <3 [17:46] <redFF1> in the thread [17:47] <redFF1> i think that sums it up nicely [17:47] <taa> is it going to be positive? [17:47] <BloodyC0bbler> yes [17:47] <BloodyC0bbler> very [17:48] <taa> well redff, i appreciate your attempts to not make it 2 personal [17:48] <taa> gnight [17:48] == taa [webchat@82-169-10-11.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [17:48] <BloodyC0bbler> he redff1 [17:48] <BloodyC0bbler> hey* [17:48] <redFF1> sup [17:48] <BloodyC0bbler> i suddenly like [17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> your day 1 finger pointing [17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> at lucidity [17:49] <redFF1> :O [17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971¤tpage=8#156 [17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971¤tpage=29#569 [17:49] <redFF1> yeah [17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> keep in mind mig [17:49] <redFF1> i dont like him [17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> isnt 100% [17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> but [17:49] <redFF1> yeah [17:49] <redFF1> those 2 posts [17:49] <redFF1> contradict [17:49] <Lucidity> Mig is not a confirmed townie [17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> are very [17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> hes not [17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> but seriously dude [17:50] <Original|Laptop> Mig is very close to confirmed [17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> who the fuck [17:50] == Lucidity [~nnscript@Lucidity.users.quakenet.org] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] [17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> shoots trotske [17:50] <Original|Laptop> oh lol [17:50] <Original|Laptop> Lucid [17:50] <Original|Laptop> fucking leaves [17:50] <Original|Laptop> after he knows hes wrong [17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> rofl [17:50] <Drazerk> lol [17:50] <Original|Laptop> and grasping [17:50] <Original|Laptop> wow [17:50] <Original|Laptop> thats so sad [17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> "oh shit i got caught" [17:50] <Original|Laptop> I didnt like him before [17:50] <Original|Laptop> But im almost sure now [17:50] <Original|Laptop> Hes trying to cast doubt on Mig [17:50] <Kenpachi_> loool [17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&user=86738 [17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> add in that [17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> he liked idea of day 2 confirmed [17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> townie [17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> -_- [17:52] <Drazerk> If JeeJee flips scum - Mig is confirmed [17:52] <Original|Laptop> Mig [17:52] <Drazerk> put it that way [17:52] <Original|Laptop> is already pretty close to confirmed [17:52] <Drazerk> I agree [17:52] <BloodyC0bbler> aye [17:53] <BloodyC0bbler> jeejee flipping sadly does nothing to confirm me or drazy [17:53] <BloodyC0bbler> who first [17:53] <BloodyC0bbler> singled out varp? [17:54] <DoctorHelvetica> i think sand or mig [17:54] <DoctorHelvetica> idr [17:56] <mig__> I did [17:56] <mig__> I was first vote sand 2nd [17:57] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971¤tpage=12#234 [17:57] <BloodyC0bbler> based on that post [17:57] <BloodyC0bbler> it alone would make a ton of sense [17:58] <BloodyC0bbler> of why mig would take a hit [17:58] <BloodyC0bbler> it also would to me, imply redff and drH slightly more "confirmed" green than anything else [17:58] <BloodyC0bbler> this is more for reds benefit [17:58] <BloodyC0bbler> than drH's [18:01] == syllogism [syllogism@88-148-179-52.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: EOF from client] [18:03] == Munk-E [webchat@108.9.205.227] has joined #loonybin [18:04] == Drazerk [webchat@5ad3d1da.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout] [18:04] <BloodyC0bbler> why the hell do people leave -_- [18:04] <BloodyC0bbler> without saying shit [18:06] <redFF1> trolololololoolol [18:06] == redFF1 [~redFF1@24-151-111-27.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has left #loonybin [] [18:07] == redFF1 [~redFF1@24-151-111-27.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #loonybin [18:07] <redFF1> [18:07] <BloodyC0bbler> haha [18:09] <BloodyC0bbler> man [18:09] <BloodyC0bbler> i love the filter button [18:09] <redFF1> i just pm'd nazgul [18:09] <redFF1> to ask [18:09] <redFF1> if he would let mafia forum have all button after 50 pages [18:09] <BloodyC0bbler> lol [18:09] <BloodyC0bbler> nice [18:10] <BloodyC0bbler> time to play my monopoly scratch ticket then huge pst [18:10] <BloodyC0bbler> post* [18:10] <BloodyC0bbler> hurrah [18:12] <Original|Laptop> ok [18:12] <Original|Laptop> back [18:12] <Original|Laptop> god i love Tacos | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On August 03 2011 02:41 JeeJee wrote: it points out the fact that sandro's vote isn't a real vote. apparently not everybody realizes that pressure votes are a joke. i think both of those candidates are a stupid idea. red is being ragged on due to him opposing a tempting plan, but not one without faults. his concerns are legitimate. claiming over-defensiveness as a scum-tell is something i particularly dislike, having been lynched for it multiple times as a townie. further, the people pushing him are useless people like minii who just jump on the hate with zero reasoning whatsoever. the extent of minii's posts are as follows: Fin. varp is being ragged on due to wishy-washness. i just re-read his posts, and the tldr progression is as follows -vigi dont shoot on hunches -be active -no problems re dayvig plan -realizes its better to delay or outright not do the plan due to stacked hits -random fos on trotske i see re-evaluation there, not wishy-washiness. do you see otherwise? random fos are just as useless as pressure votes. sandro and varp are both bad in that department as far as i'm concerned. by itself though, it doesn't mean much, and there's nothing else yet. as for me, i don't have scum leanings on anyone. town leans yes, scum leans no. Note that rather than draw emphasis to the posts of those accusing varpulis, or any of varps posts he just sums the series of posts varp made up. I would normally say that this is a moot point, however he did opt to find it worth quoting posts in relation to redff. Why would you defend two people within one post but only bring attention to specific posts on one bandwagon? Possibly moot, but definitely not normal. His next post is 7 hours later saying Hi to drazerk. Followed by 3 hours later appearing to take off on a post that I had made an hour before his post. On August 03 2011 12:30 JeeJee wrote: looks like cobbles picked up on the same thing i have. what particularly irks me about drazerk today is that he has been posting in the other mafia thread on his usual time of 5-10kst +/-1hr so he has been reading this thread as well. but he declined to weigh in, leaving his vote as-is (essentially throwaway). didnt even answer a simple "how are you" =( usually when people say 'lurking is a scumtell', i disagree because they clump 'afk' and 'lurk' as interchangeable. afking means nothing as far as i'm concerned, just look at ace in snmm5. lurking (ie being there but not speaking) a la drazerk is a different story. still not voting, but i'll be here before the deadline tomorrow, no worries. This post is the first one that seriously tries to move a bandwagon away from varpulis. This is done by first using my name as a “backup” as well as using a lot of out of thread reasoning. He then refuses to vote as he will be around for the deadline. Moments later he makes a post saying screw it, and votes. Now, as someone who mentioned early in the thread he doesn’t believe in pressure voting, we know that this vote is meant to be solid “I believe this person is scum”. We also know that as of roughly 10 hours before he voted he had no scum leanings on any player. How is it that someone who has been moderately inactive much like himself, is suddenly sure of the guilt of another player when his reasoning is “inactivity in this thread but active outside of it” He couldn’t find anything in thread? Or in irc to help. He then spends the next bit of time after the lynch to accuse players of bad logic, spam, and refusal to even defend himself from general accusations. He attacks my accusation that I made of him by saying “I brought him up first” when all he had done previously was say “hi how are you” to drazerk. Overall he has had 17-18 posts all game where a fair majority of them have been spam or generally unhelpful / noncommittal. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On August 05 2011 08:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ok, to start with I believe of the remaining 3 scum, jeejee is one of them. I say this for a few reasons. He defended Varpulis. However, he didn’t commit to this defense, he posted one near the very beginning of the bandwagon on him then never touched on the issue once it became a solid lynch. His defense of varpulis Note that rather than draw emphasis to the posts of those accusing varpulis, or any of varps posts he just sums the series of posts varp made up. I would normally say that this is a moot point, however he did opt to find it worth quoting posts in relation to redff. Why would you defend two people within one post but only bring attention to specific posts on one bandwagon? Possibly moot, but definitely not normal. minii was hating on red, not varp. if he were hating on varp, i'd have put him in the varp category. it doesn't matter who he is hating when the hate is ill-founded given that he hasn't provided any reasons for it His next post is 7 hours later saying Hi to drazerk. Followed by 3 hours later appearing to take off on a post that I had made an hour before his post. actually it was asking drazerk a question, showing that he is indeed avoiding the thread, even questions directly addressed to him that can be answered in five seconds This post is the first one that seriously tries to move a bandwagon away from varpulis. This is done by first using my name as a “backup” as well as using a lot of out of thread reasoning. He then refuses to vote as he will be around for the deadline. Moments later he makes a post saying screw it, and votes. Now, as someone who mentioned early in the thread he doesn’t believe in pressure voting, we know that this vote is meant to be solid “I believe this person is scum”. We also know that as of roughly 10 hours before he voted he had no scum leanings on any player. How is it that someone who has been moderately inactive much like himself, is suddenly sure of the guilt of another player when his reasoning is “inactivity in this thread but active outside of it” He couldn’t find anything in thread? Or in irc to help. because it's actually pretty damn scummy when someone is reading the thread but refusing to weigh-in, particularly when his arguments were all shot down and he is throwing away his vote, with the deadline looming. i can't believe you said they weren't serious reasons He then spends the next bit of time after the lynch to accuse players of bad logic, spam, and refusal to even defend himself from general accusations. He attacks my accusation that I made of him by saying “I brought him up first” when all he had done previously was say “hi how are you” to drazerk. Overall he has had 17-18 posts all game where a fair majority of them have been spam or generally unhelpful / noncommittal. the general accusations against me were bad, why would i acknowledge them? like i said, i've been lynched for being overly defensive before. apparently shutting down arguments that nobody can possibly believe is more scummy than just ignoring them. responses in bold/red. as for claims,i think it's a good idea. unless you just happen to have a reasonable explanation for the missing KP. hell, even if mig's mafia, he can't just kill off all blues and hope nobody notices -- and him dying would cut mafia kp in half. lucid/red are being unreasonable imo. yeah nothing is 100%, but it's much more likely mig being town than mafia | ||
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Canada7875 Posts
On August 05 2011 09:19 JeeJee wrote: responses in bold/red. as for claims,i think it's a good idea. unless you just happen to have a reasonable explanation for the missing KP. hell, even if mig's mafia, he can't just kill off all blues and hope nobody notices -- and him dying would cut mafia kp in half. lucid/red are being unreasonable imo. yeah nothing is 100%, but it's much more likely mig being town than mafia I am glad that through all of this "defending" you still opt to not weigh in heavily on the current day. More to the point however you directly misread a section of what I posted against you. Note that rather than draw emphasis to the posts of those accusing varpulis, or any of varps posts he just sums the series of posts varp made up. I would normally say that this is a moot point, however he did opt to find it worth quoting posts in relation to redff. Why would you defend two people within one post but only bring attention to specific posts on one bandwagon? Possibly moot, but definitely not normal. minii was hating on red, not varp. if he were hating on varp, i'd have put him in the varp category. it doesn't matter who he is hating when the hate is ill-founded given that he hasn't provided any reasons for it I had already implied the minii bit was in reference to red. The issue was that you were using posts to defend red whereas you were not using any to defend varp. It shows a "weak" and almost unmemorable defense of a mafia roleblocker. As for your vote of drazerk. Is he lurking and inactive? yes. However, taking the opportunity to jump and appear to try and start a bandwagon when you yourself have also been fairly lurky and inactive is well odd. You then rather than actually give reasonable responses to most people questioning you at that period you opt to do small posts that provide next to nothing. Not only that, but you appear frequently enough to "comment" on the goings on of the thread but you never leave a lasting mark on anything. The posts are very neutral and if someone wasn't looking at you they were be unmemorable. You are a much better player than this and as such should be more active or at least much more contributing than you are now. | ||
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Drazerk
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Reasons stated earlier in the thread. Going to bed keep posting IRC discussions. | ||
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