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Zinthar
United States394 Posts
On July 07 2011 19:13 Tachion wrote: 11/11 is extremely hard to stop with a hatch first build. MKP said you pretty much had to pool first or it's just an auto-loss. I think the best build against a strong Terran is what NesTea did vs. sC -- 14 gas, 13 pool for quick speedlings. | ||
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Pajegetc
United States3158 Posts
didn't you know, there is a gentlemens agreement to never attack before the 20 minute mark and 3-4 bases. But seriously, really wish people would learn the difference between early pressure and cheese. | ||
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OrChard
Hong Kong1119 Posts
On July 07 2011 19:17 Exsonic wrote: all the T players of OGS in the booth, U know guys Do you exclude Ensare? | ||
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zeru
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51427 Posts
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
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kenkou
United States235 Posts
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On July 07 2011 19:19 Pajegetc wrote: didn't you know, there is a gentlemens agreement to never attack before the 20 minute mark and 3-4 bases. But seriously, really wish people would learn the difference between early pressure and cheese. I just can't believe he called Nada's reaper build cheese. | ||
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
On July 07 2011 19:19 OrchidThief wrote: What's the score/which players have played so far? Maybe check the OP? | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On July 07 2011 19:18 pdd wrote: Would be funny if Keen lost to Nada's mass reaper to hellion to banshee harass again. That was a brutal game indeed :D But I don't expect Keen to play greedy now. He knows he'll get punished for it by NaDa  | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
On July 07 2011 19:19 OrchidThief wrote: What's the score/which players have played so far? Check the main page? TheStc beat finale Monster beat TheStc Nada beat Monster | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On July 07 2011 19:19 Zinthar wrote: I think the best build against a strong Terran is what NesTea did vs. sC -- 14 gas, 13 pool for quick speedlings. DongRaeGu did that build in most of his ZvTs. 14 pool 13 gas 16 hatch. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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iMp.will.
Bulgaria441 Posts
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MassIncestor
743 Posts
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
On July 07 2011 19:20 Lorizean wrote: So, I'm wondering, if I get pool first and use my first queen energy for a tumor, can I push out enough creep to deny bunker rushes? Probably not, huh? Opening hatch first is actually the best way to repel bunker rushes. By opening hatch first you get 8lings instead of 6, but have a later ling speed. As long as you are very active with your drones and deny scv's you will usually come out ok (though behind by a good player). This is why you will always see Idra over-commit to a 2rax, not lose the game early, but lose later, and this is also why you will see other zergs die to the push by trying to get ahead in the mid game. A player like Idra has alot of confidence in his macro and mechanics that he will always choose to NOT die early and play the midgame with his strengths. By going creep tumor first you almost completely negate the strneghts of opening gas first, which is the burst of lings due to the first larvae inject. You will be dead by the time that creep tumor and jump once. | ||
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Drygioni
Japan379 Posts
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Levistus
1134 Posts
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Pyre
United States1940 Posts
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