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Flash cheating (Same thing Leta did)

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jhyun
Profile Joined May 2009
United States15 Posts
June 08 2009 10:45 GMT
#1

Ace match MBC vs KTF Oct 18, 2008

Here's the situation. Light uses cheese when Flash went for double command. Flash sees someone in the crowd waving his/her hand and prepares accordingly. This is 100% proven by what Flash says:

11:30-11:35
이영호:관객석에서 이러구(손 흔들고) 있는거야 막 병력들오는거 눈치챘지 근까
Translation: Someone was doing this (Waving hands) in the crowd, so i realized the cheese was coming.

11:46-11:48
이영호:아니 어쩔수없이 보여 그냥 안볼려고 해도
Translation: I couldn't help it but notice even if i tried not to.

So Leta's eye mapping isnt exactly new in pro-league, hopefully they'll fix this somehow.
매롱~
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 08 2009 10:49 GMT
#2
It's really quite easy...

They just need to tell MBC to un-fail their studio. Someone mentioned that OGN has their booths higher up and angled so the players do not have a clear view of the audience. MBC does not.

Even better would be to install one way glass onto the booths so players can't see out regardless.
Hello
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
June 08 2009 10:50 GMT
#3
On June 08 2009 19:49 PH wrote:
It's really quite easy...

They just need to tell MBC to un-fail their studio. Someone mentioned that OGN has their booths higher up and angled so the players do not have a clear view of the audience. MBC does not.

Even better would be to install one way glass onto the booths so players can't see out regardless.

streampowered
Profile Joined April 2009
United States60 Posts
June 08 2009 10:50 GMT
#4
lol wut how is someone waving a sign of proxy.. this is only an issue if it's planned
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
June 08 2009 10:51 GMT
#5
I've always thought it stupid having the booths with glass windows, while facing the audience. Why do it?
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
jhyun
Profile Joined May 2009
United States15 Posts
June 08 2009 10:52 GMT
#6
On June 08 2009 19:50 streampowered wrote:
lol wut how is someone waving a sign of proxy.. this is only an issue if it's planned

Believe it or not, someone proxying causes quite a disturbance in the crowd. Those boothes really needs to be fixed
매롱~
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
June 08 2009 10:53 GMT
#7
Source
POGGERS
genryou
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia390 Posts
June 08 2009 10:56 GMT
#8
Its not something new actually, even Boxer have done similar things which made Garimto and few others programmer flamed him on the net.

i,m more surprised at how Flash realize the cheese was coming just by looking at some random crowd waving her hand, i mean, there was like 100 or people or so and most of them waving all the time.

unless Flash know that person, then that explain thing.

wait

maybe he did know the person.

I, Challenge Everything
jhyun
Profile Joined May 2009
United States15 Posts
June 08 2009 10:57 GMT
#9
On June 08 2009 19:53 konadora wrote:
Source

Don't have one someone told me to take a look at it and I'm korean so i translated it
매롱~
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 08 2009 11:00 GMT
#10
All of you constantly calling for one way glass should probably learn how it works first (hint: the studios would have to be much darker than they are)

not to mention how annoying it would be to have to play in a room made of mirrors
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
June 08 2009 11:01 GMT
#11
On June 08 2009 19:49 PH wrote:
It's really quite easy...

They just need to tell MBC to un-fail their studio. Someone mentioned that OGN has their booths higher up and angled so the players do not have a clear view of the audience. MBC does not.

Even better would be to install one way glass onto the booths so players can't see out regardless.


How is Bisu going to be able to concentrate with his striking good looks staring back at him?

Conspiracy!!!!!!
bisu fanboy
2nd1rst
Profile Joined April 2009
United States40 Posts
June 08 2009 11:01 GMT
#12
Glad flash owned up and didn't keep it to himself.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 11:13:37
June 08 2009 11:03 GMT
#13
It was a matter of time.

I'm shocked this form of 'cheating' hadn't come to the forefront sooner. Hopefully KESPA will listen and install one-way glass in the studios.

This could really dampen e-sports as a whole. The cussing is one thing; this is another.

Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
June 08 2009 11:04 GMT
#14
On June 08 2009 19:53 konadora wrote:
Source


Just pump up the volume and listen, what he said is pretty much true
a
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
June 08 2009 11:04 GMT
#15
I'd get like a baseball pitcher thing going, just have my coach sitting in the front row waving out signs for proxy gates in bottom right, hidden expo top left, and so on.
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
June 08 2009 11:04 GMT
#16
yeah i saw this too in fomos
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
June 08 2009 11:06 GMT
#17
surprised they never thought about how see through glass would let players cheat -_-;
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 08 2009 11:12 GMT
#18
On June 08 2009 20:01 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2009 19:49 PH wrote:
It's really quite easy...

They just need to tell MBC to un-fail their studio. Someone mentioned that OGN has their booths higher up and angled so the players do not have a clear view of the audience. MBC does not.

Even better would be to install one way glass onto the booths so players can't see out regardless.


How is Bisu going to be able to concentrate with his striking good looks staring back at him?

Conspiracy!!!!!!


lol xD
beep boop
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
June 08 2009 11:14 GMT
#19
On June 08 2009 20:00 heyoka wrote:
All of you constantly calling for one way glass should probably learn how it works first (hint: the studios would have to be much darker than they are)

not to mention how annoying it would be to have to play in a room made of mirrors


Actually, they wouldn't have to be drastically darker. Yes, it would require some adaptation, but it's not as impossible as you make it sound.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 08 2009 11:20 GMT
#20
On June 08 2009 20:06 alffla wrote:
surprised they never thought about how see through glass would let players cheat -_-;


In the beginning they didn't have sound proof booths and headphones wasn't required. In the upcoming grand Dreamhack tournament (arena with 1100 seats) there will be no booths etc.

Human learn by it's mistakes
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