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New Super Smash Bros. Brawl - "Brawl+"

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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 04:44:29
May 08 2009 04:43 GMT
#1
Basically a bunch of guys altered original Super Smash Bros. Brawl with codes/hacks in order to make it more competitive and balanced. The result is called "Brawl+". The game itself is much faster, combos are back, tripping is removed, there is less lag on edges (much like in melee), and there are quite a few other changes. The result is reminds me a lot of the Smash Bros. 64; it is fast, but not as fast as melee.

For more details :

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=213744

The game is growing more popular and looks really fun imo. Hopefully this will bring melee and brawl players together and smash bros. will have a strong competitive scene again. The only issue is actually getting the game, which involves modifying the Wii, though it does not seem too difficult.

There are already many Brawl+ tournaments as well.

Here are some gameplay examples:







A cool combo video:


GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 04:49:39
May 08 2009 04:46 GMT
#2
Haha I remember this it completely changed the tiers :p

And I thought they made it exactly like Melee with the brawl characters
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 08 2009 05:33 GMT
#3
I am thoroughly convinced that the Brawl+ developers have no idea how to balance a game.
iSCOUT4me
Profile Joined May 2009
Bhutan4 Posts
May 08 2009 05:35 GMT
#4
SSB64 is the real deal
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
May 08 2009 05:35 GMT
#5
wtf?
64 was way faster than melee
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 08 2009 05:41 GMT
#6
On May 08 2009 14:35 jodogohoo wrote:
wtf?
64 was way faster than melee

No it wasn't. It was like almost twice as slow. When was the last time you played it? The hang time of units jumping in the air was also really long.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 08 2009 05:50 GMT
#7
I can see it now...

Starcraft II +!!
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
May 08 2009 05:51 GMT
#8
Brawl+ is really fun. It's the game SSBB should have been when it came out, but wasn't. The actual hacking isn't that bad if you aren't completely stupid and have some time on your hands. Last I checked it was kinda hard to find step by step instructions on the actual implementation after the hack is completed, but I can help anyone in this thread or you can go to the Brawl+ talk page on SmashWiki and I put instructions there. Better than that, though, is going to their IRC. Those guys are helpful and know what they're doing. I really encourage anybody who plays Brawl for competitive purposes to try it out.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
May 08 2009 05:58 GMT
#9
On May 08 2009 14:35 jodogohoo wrote:
wtf?
64 was way faster than melee

lol what
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naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1337 Posts
May 08 2009 06:04 GMT
#10
Does it solve the multiplayer problem? There's basically no way to play brawl at all online.
hmm.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 08 2009 06:07 GMT
#11
On May 08 2009 15:04 naventus wrote:
Does it solve the multiplayer problem? There's basically no way to play brawl at all online.


That's a problem inherent in the way Nintendo servers relay information.

"HEY, GUYS, I HAVE A GREAT IDEA. EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE BEST CONNECTION POSSIBLE, WE SHOULD IMPLEMENT 10 MS OF LAG FOR NO REASON."

"Sounds great."
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 06:16:35
May 08 2009 06:10 GMT
#12
Yo this sounds really nice. How do you go about doing this? can i somehow play this on the pc? for free? great

trying to play brawl online was like going back in time 10 years and struggling to get games to work over modem
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
May 08 2009 06:10 GMT
#13
On May 08 2009 15:04 naventus wrote:
Does it solve the multiplayer problem? There's basically no way to play brawl at all online.


Apparently it does work online, though I am not sure how well. I have heard that people say they got great connections but have also heard others say that they can't play @ all.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
May 08 2009 06:12 GMT
#14
Brawl+ looks interesting but I am fairly sure it will never be the competitive standard. Too many people already will never quit Brawl (original) maybe because they are too used to the original Brawl, love Metaknight, or like to have boring campfests. Also, some people just don't like vastly altering the game with hacks ( I'm not sure if you can revert it or play both versions), even if it makes the gameplay "better."

Some smaller tournaments here and there may use Brawl+ but I am fairly sure that the big, nation-bringing tournaments (like Genesis) will never use this.

I highly doubt it will bring many Melee players to Brawl+ because in the mind of many there is nothing wrong with Melee. Despite being an 8 year old game, Melee is still developing its metagame and there is still great fun to be had with the competitive nature of the game.

It's interesting though because although Melee somewhat stagnated and died after Brawl came out, it is coming back a lot. Even if it doesn't really reach the "Golden Age" of Smash like in 2006-7, it definitely doesn't need something like Brawl+ to make Smash competitive again, it already is. Tournaments are still great to go to and watching the best players fight it out (except for Mango oddly, maybe because there seems to be no match for him) is still great fun to watch

There is also a small 64 scene rising, at least where I live
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zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 06:16:03
May 08 2009 06:15 GMT
#15
ya but melee doesnt have online

speaking of which, y dont they release that shit on the wii as DLC? i would straight up buy a wii
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
May 08 2009 06:17 GMT
#16
On May 08 2009 15:12 SaveYourSavior wrote:
Brawl+ looks interesting but I am fairly sure it will never be the competitive standard. Too many people already will never quit Brawl (original) maybe because they are too used to the original Brawl, love Metaknight, or like to have boring campfests. Also, some people just don't like vastly altering the game with hacks ( I'm not sure if you can revert it or play both versions), even if it makes the gameplay "better."

Some smaller tournaments here and there may use Brawl+ but I am fairly sure that the big, nation-bringing tournaments (like Genesis) will never use this.

I highly doubt it will bring many Melee players to Brawl+ because in the mind of many there is nothing wrong with Melee. Despite being an 8 year old game, Melee is still developing its metagame and there is still great fun to be had with the competitive nature of the game.

It's interesting though because although Melee somewhat stagnated and died after Brawl came out, it is coming back a lot. Even if it doesn't really reach the "Golden Age" of Smash like in 2006-7, it definitely doesn't need something like Brawl+ to make Smash competitive again, it already is. Tournaments are still great to go to and watching the best players fight it out (except for Mango oddly, maybe because there seems to be no match for him) is still great fun to watch

There is also a small 64 scene rising, at least where I live



I think brawl+ will get very competitive, it already has gotten fairly competitive in some places as it is.

Yeah it uses hacks, I see no reason why that should matter if it makes the game better. I mean dota got pretty competitive and it is just a ums.
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
May 08 2009 06:20 GMT
#17
On May 08 2009 14:50 Plexa wrote:
I can see it now...

Starcraft II +!!


Starcraft+ + cracklings
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
May 08 2009 06:20 GMT
#18
This seems so much better. I was disappointed with the way Brawl turned out in a competitive sense.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 08 2009 06:36 GMT
#19
On May 08 2009 15:12 SaveYourSavior wrote:
Brawl+ looks interesting but I am fairly sure it will never be the competitive standard. Too many people already will never quit Brawl (original) maybe because they are too used to the original Brawl, love Metaknight, or like to have boring campfests. Also, some people just don't like vastly altering the game with hacks ( I'm not sure if you can revert it or play both versions), even if it makes the gameplay "better."



There is no "better" about it, brawl+ is much more viable for tournament play then original brawl is.
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
May 08 2009 06:57 GMT
#20
Ahahahah when will smash fans realize that SSB was never designed to be a competitive game.

I mean it's nice that a competitive scene came up... and it's interesting that you deemed it fit to modify the game to suit your standards... but come on.

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