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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 12 2009 00:30 GMT
#62
/sign
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 14 2009 11:09 GMT
#117
If you are mafia and getting killed first day because of an accident then at least go out blazing crying out to the town that you are a DT or something.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 16 2009 22:08 GMT
#133
On March 16 2009 23:33 chaoser wrote:
starting tonight?

supposedly
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 04:40:18
March 17 2009 04:40 GMT
#160
On March 17 2009 12:21 Chuiu wrote:

He got to the door just before the explosion and was caught in the shockwave.

Shock Wave is a move that Pikachu can learn and there is a player named Pika Chu. I give this a 1% probability of being a real clue.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 04:41 GMT
#161
On March 17 2009 13:18 fusionsdf wrote:
there is a neat thing going on here

early votes are much more important than late votes. Three or four early votes for BC have the potential to sway far more people than if they occurred later....not making an accusation, but if mafia wanted to sway the voting, this is where they would do it.

Yeah there are a lot of votes for him already; I know that starting early was how we got our godfather elected in Ace's Mafia World. I'm going to wait till tomorrow to pick someone.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 05:06:58
March 17 2009 05:06 GMT
#165
On March 17 2009 13:59 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:


On March 17 2009 14:01 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:


Any mod / someone who saw that want to tell us what that was?
EDIT: nevermind more_minerals isn't in this game lol
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 06:07:44
March 17 2009 06:02 GMT
#177
So I'm getting a clue. It's not exactly a raging clue, but for Day 1 it's pretty feisty.

On March 17 2009 12:21 Chuiu wrote:

"He got to the door just before the explosion and was caught in the shockwave."

Shock Wave is a move that Pikachu can learn and there is a player named Pika Chu. I gave this a 1% probability of being a real clue. But now after a few thoughts I had in the shower I am much more suspicious...

"One of the mafia complied and began lowering down to the ground, Chuiu raised his gun at the other and yelled at him to do the same. But while he did so the mafia lowering himself sprinted toward Chuiu and with his hands still behind his head grabbed the gun and threw it to the side. He tackled Chuiu to the ground and then ran over to the gun and armed himself with it."

One of the mafia is standing up straight at rest, but then lowers himself to the ground while sprinting... just like Pikachu! This Mafia grabs the gun even though his hands are behind his back... this wouldn't be a problem for Pikachu, who carries the ray gun from Super Smash Bros. in his mouth while running around. Furthermore, Pikachu holds the gun from SSB behind in his hands behind his head while leaned over when he fires it... Then this mafia tackles Chuiu. Well Pikachu can't learn tackle in the Game Boy game, but I'm pretty sure he uses it in the TV show, and I know he can use it in the card game:

[image loading]

Finally, chuiu has posted in this Smash Bros thread so I assume he'd be at least somewhat familiar with this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42012&currentpage=2

EDIT with addition:

"They approached Chuiu slowly and he backed up to a safer distance keeping the gun aimed at them. When they stopped he lowered the gun slightly and told them to put their hands behind their backs and get on the ground, then he yelled at the third person to get out of the car."

The mention of slightly lowering the gun indicates to me that Chuiu is still aiming the gun at these mafia but that one or both of them is short; if Chuiu wanted to say he was completely lowering the gun he wouldn't have used that modifier.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 06:19 GMT
#182
Do we only vote on mayor day one or do we have to vote for a lynch too?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 06:23 GMT
#185
On March 17 2009 15:21 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 15:13 TruthBringer wrote:
I am hoping for plans like, "i'll have a bodyguard coordinate the specials so that I and the mayor get checked" etc. Not past achievements, but accountability, ways of advancing this game.


To respond to your post, I would like to point out that I think a plan has already been established via the previous games strategies. Obviously the additions of Godfather and Miller, plus a slight reduction in the powers of the DT could throw a wrench in our plans, but regardless it is still a solid plan and one that I would be sticking by if elected mayor.

Well what is the plan? Remember this time around the mayor and sheriff have no idea who the bodyguards are and they don't know each other.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 06:25 GMT
#186
I guess I would also like to hear what candidates will do with their day 1 lynch if mayor and what they will do with the sheriff power if elected.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 08:10 GMT
#195
Anyone want to comment on my Pika Chu analysis?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 08:25 GMT
#200
On March 17 2009 17:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 17:01 malongo wrote:
Theres almost no way to make a 100% good choice for the town so ill go with someone that has worked there before and seems to care about the town.
#I vote Caller for sheriff
And honestly all the BC stuff is rare to say the least.


I began running on page 2 so no, not rare

I didn't really notice you beginning to run on page 2 and it still seems weird some people voted for you without saying why and some people said it was based on some pms and irc when pressed and it even looks like some less than super active people noticed you were running immediately and voted without waiting for other candidates to say anything... everything might check out and im not really suspicious of you but i feel safer voting for caller or nemy at this point... of course last time (in aces mafia world) we criticized someone for bandwagoning I think they turned out ok and we ended up electing the godfather...
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 16:30 GMT
#221
Look Mr. Chu, its nothing personal and I know day 1 clues usually lead us into trouble but we have to lynch someone day one and its the best I can come up with so far. Feel free to offer any analysis you have.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 16:33 GMT
#222
On March 18 2009 01:27 nemY wrote:
I don't really buy the shockwave = Pika Chu clue. It seems far too easy to pick up on. I think if anything this

Show nested quote +
But while he did so the mafia lowering himself sprinted toward Chuiu and with his hands still behind his head grabbed the gun and threw it to the side. He tackled Chuiu to the ground and then ran over to the gun and armed himself with it.


is a better clue to analyze/figure out.

Think about it... something ran over and forcefully disarmed Chuiu all while looking like this the entire time:

[image loading]

Well, my further analysis on page 9 addresses that issue. Or did that picture come from a profile or something? It seems likely to me that this mafia has more than 2 arms or used his mouth or something other than hands to disarm Chuiu.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 18:44 GMT
#230
[image loading]

Alright, I will run for office as well. If elected, I will do my best to follow the will of the town and follow any plans they have. I don't think organization should flow through the mayor / sheriff this game because of how hard verification would be so I'll do my best to earn your trust while organization can hopefully happen through the medic / veteran plan (so I'm not going to be demanding your roles or anything). The town will have to do most of its heavy lifting through clue analysis this time, which I am looking forward to helping with. This is my third mafia game so I don't have as much experience as some of the other candidates but I will certainly be hovering over this thread obsessively like I have for the previous to games, to the detriment of my GPA. If elected Sheriff I plan on locking up suspected mafia if we have more obvious suspects than we can lynch (and we can see if KP falls as well). Protecting a blue whose cover is blown doesn't seem too strategic because they won't be able to use their power in jail but maybe it can be used if medics/bgs get low in end game. But, I certainly won't go rogue and ignore y'all if a majority of you demand I do otherwise. If Mayor, I'm leaning towards Pika Chu at this point for the previously stated reasons and will stick to that barring new revelations. I don't think I can vote for me so I vote for Bloodyc0bbler at this point because he started running early and thus is probably not running for secret reasons and has a ton of experience. I thought it was suspicious he got support earlier but it reminds me of all the support Plexa got in a previous game from name recognition that looked suspicious but ended up being okay.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 18:48:36
March 17 2009 18:48 GMT
#231
On March 18 2009 03:32 Qatol wrote: When do we want to use our double lynches?

We should only use those once clue analysis gets more productive. We'll have to wait until we see 3 likely suspects so we can lynch one, activate the power and then lynch two the next day. If we have 2 likely suspects we can probably use the power if we have double lynches to spare and hope the next day's post will get us a third.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 19:03 GMT
#236
On March 18 2009 03:59 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 03:32 Qatol wrote:
semioldguy/Caller/nemy/motbob/lurker/anyone else who is running for sheriff that I have not yet addressed (sorry, but there are a lot of you and I might have missed someone) what do you plan to do upon getting into office? What sort of plan do you offer to the town?

I just want to get some talk going on this one: When do we want to use our double lynches? I argue that we want to use them days 3-5 because those are early enough to do damage to the mafia but aren't complete guesses either. Remember, we have to vote for the double lynch the day BEFORE we can use it, so we need to start talking about this now if anyone thinks it is a good idea to double lynch day 2.

I will make an effort to not be in conflict with the other officer for as long as it seems we are both playing for the same side as I believe if the town is to rally around the officers it needs to be both officers, not just one. Since both officers will always be suspect (as mentioned by BC) I will do my best to only act in a way the town agrees with by letting them know beforehand whenever possible.

If the town or other elected comes up with a viable plan (or if I think of something other than what I posted already) then I will do what needs to be done to facilitate that plan.

If someone else can be 100% proved to be innocent at any time during the game and for whatever reason the town comes to not completely trust me. I would be willing to use my power how the 100% proved innocent and trusted person wanted it to be used.

There is no reason to double lynch on Day Two. It would be incredibly uninformed if we did so since most of the special abilities can't even be used until the second night, meaning we would only have some clue analysis to go off of for a double lynch which is unlikely. Waiting until Day Three or Four would mean we could potentially have at least some concrete information obtained from special roles being used.

I think everything semioldguy said here is sharp and I would follow it, too.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 19:28 GMT
#241
We can't really protect a medic/other duo though can we? We only have a few medics and mafia KP will overwhelm that unless their KP has been knocked down quite a bit by then (to the point half or more of them are gone).
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 19:40 GMT
#246
The medics aren't going to be able to coordinate protection early on so going after good players has a good chance of working especially if the mafia double up hits to make sure if they feel someone is protected.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 17 2009 20:00 GMT
#253
On March 18 2009 04:45 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 04:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
The medics aren't going to be able to coordinate protection early on so going after good players has a good chance of working especially if the mafia double up hits to make sure if they feel someone is protected.


Then the mafia wastes early KP doubling up. That works for me.

Right, I think BWDero is wrong because there aren't many medics compared to people who would need to be protected. Odds are at least one veteran is a mafia (though that didn't happen last game) and won't be hit and medics will probably double up on protection before coordination so it makes sense for mafia to begin by hitting skilled, experienced players until they can narrow down some blues from vigi hit clues or behavior / slip ups / etc.
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