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A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-21 17:18:17
October 21 2007 13:13 GMT
#1
it was bo5 ,first three game Hawsin 1:2
im starting watch the forth Game from the first person
Hawsin joind the game,then Hawsin got a message from Clam
from Stx_clam : center baracket ok me 12 pool?
then Hawsin typed and replay : 00 kk
i was thinking its all about last game they discussing then i relised its not they are talking about the next game
Game 4 on Tau Cross
Hawsin scv went to the map center and buit Baracket their
all audience and broadcaster didnt know it was arranged,they are very exciting , Clam lost game softly

Game 5

they are talking again , but sorry they were not speaking good english or just maybe some words i cant understand
but i clear saw message from Clam : me 1 sunken all drone

Final game Hawsin 3BB marine and medic, all Clam Have is 1 Sunken as he said before the game

we are all fooled by those korean Pro Gamers

and I have to belive the Rumor about the OSL and Msl some arranged game maybe ture.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
October 21 2007 13:17 GMT
#2
sources please
Teamliquidian townie
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:19 GMT
#3
its on PPlive, the video will come out shortly

they may thought no one knows this,but in IEST its like PGL

we have both firs person view live from two players

kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
October 21 2007 13:19 GMT
#4
wow, if they would stoop as low to rig a games in a foreign tournament, (excluding wcg, that sounds downright disgraceful in this case).

Cant they just play the bo5 to the best of their abilities, give the fans something to cheer for?
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
October 21 2007 13:21 GMT
#5
Give me one reason why they would do such a thing when the game is about money.
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
October 21 2007 13:22 GMT
#6
they can split the cash? There on the same team aswell..

In smash bros. i know that games have been thrown at mlg for money reasons.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:22 GMT
#7
its simple

they are from the same Team STX

and they are korean

its enough
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
October 21 2007 13:25 GMT
#8
You "have to" believe, then you believe. That's all. Stating what you saw makes sense, but your personal thought doesn't. They fooled IEST in case that two finalists were from the same team and they had already insured the US$32,000 champion and runner-up award, so progaming fooled all? IEST is not progaming.
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:27 GMT
#9
look back the World Cup 2002

Impossible is nothing
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 21 2007 13:29 GMT
#10
Stop over analyzing.
They did what they wanted to do, because they got that far by beating everyone legitly and badly.
The end.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:30 GMT
#11
On October 21 2007 22:29 MYM.Testie wrote:
Stop over analyzing.
They did what they wanted to do, because they got that far by beating everyone legitly and badly.
The end.


audience paid the ticket ,they have to respect them to show their ability and not like this

AyOnY
Profile Joined July 2006
Pitcairn1026 Posts
October 21 2007 13:31 GMT
#12
Did they type it in english or korean?
GoRush fan~
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 21 2007 13:31 GMT
#13
Unless you know for sure you should not be making accusations.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:33 GMT
#14
someone help me to upload this pic plz http://www.playsc.com/bbs/attachments/month_0710/20071021_21963dac58424c1dfa5316fKrPz9PzpP.jpg
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:35 GMT
#15
On October 21 2007 22:31 MYM.Testie wrote:
Unless you know for sure you should not be making accusations.


go msn plz i transfer you the picture

SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 21 2007 13:37 GMT
#16
So what do you want to do about it?
They are friends and team mates who probably agreed to split the prize money.

Even if their actions are proved true, it's not like anything should be done about it, or any penalization. Because they did win fair and square.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
October 21 2007 13:37 GMT
#17
If they come from the same team and this is something that happens often, why can't they just talk about it before the match? Using lobby chat to talk about that is way too risky to make any sense IMO.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
October 21 2007 13:37 GMT
#18
if they did fix the match, then its a real shame, instead of giving the audience something to enjoy, they gave them rigged games. that screenshot looks pretty incriminating btw.

prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
October 21 2007 13:40 GMT
#19
On October 21 2007 22:37 MYM.Testie wrote:
So what do you want to do about it?
They are friends and team mates who probably agreed to split the prize money.

Even if their actions are proved true, it's not like anything should be done about it, or any penalization. Because they did win fair and square.

Have you ever heard of sportmanship? I'm surprised that a player like you think that way.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
October 21 2007 13:42 GMT
#20
US$32,000 is a huge sum of korean won (or whatever the currency is though) and i can understand how they'd be tempted by the prospect of split winnings instead of a potentially smaller sum.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
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