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On October 22 2007 01:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
this is retarded. i really don't want to believe they did this but it seems like they did.
there's no benefit to not playing out a 5 game series, they could've just agreed to split the money but still played their best just to give the crowd what they paid for. there really is no reason not to just play it out, wtf? the koreans don't gain anything, all that happens is the crowd is screwed out of a real match and the koreans get to go home like 20 minutes earlier. is that really worth risking their reputation and never getting invited again?
If you watched the show match between Hawsin vs Jaystar you will get the point.
Jaystar one Dragoon block the Entrance, Hawsin Scv came late and thats no chance to get in
and he used the Scv Mineral Bug acrossing the Goon and get into Jaystar's base,he find its fast
DT, he said after that match,"i know its not allowed in korea Pro Match,but i know its show match
i just want to show this skill to the audience, lol " does anyone here dont know this bug? the reason for him to come china to show us how to use Bug?
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On October 22 2007 01:56 clazziquai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2007 22:57 mrdx wrote:I've enlarged and sharpened the screenshot a little, hope some Koreans can help us to translate ![[image loading]](http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5613/hwasinfaketw4.jpg) This can be easily done by any two people using hamachi by using both Calm and HwaSin's name. I want solid proof.
thousands ppl watching this , thousands ppl can prove that
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United States20667 Posts
This is really depressing, tbh. It makes me worry about teammate vs teammate games in actual StarLeagues.
You can trust that BoxeR/oov and YellOw/Reach were all legit games.
However, with this knowledge? I have little faith in the integrity of STX players now. All the more reason to still love the old boys.
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Canada291 Posts
Maybe the money isnt split 50/50. Maybe they planned it so Hwasin wins (gain fame) while Calm gets more of the money? Just maybe..
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they will split the money, in korean league,any players who from the same team get into the final game,they will share the total prize of money.
remember the game Pj vs By.Fantasy PJ lost and he still get the money half of it
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They don't have Korean Korean keyboards at the IEST? They were talking in English... I find that weird, too.
Well, that is bad. Even as team mates they should be proud to be in the final and at least give us a memorable game. Not a silly rush game ><
I guess they just wanted to get it over with, or don't like replay releases?
Testie, did Hwasin say:
STX_Hwasin: Testie, I go 3 base, nuke ok, u exp a lot n goon?
Testie: 00 ok will make u look so pro
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reasons why they might have done this (not that i'm defending them):
- avoiding releasing real 1st FPVODs and replays
- avoiding one person getting embarassed 3-0
- just for kicks, to some people it'd probably be pretty funny arranging televised games with a good friend
- for practice -- testing out their responses to various builds
- to avoid having conflict (truly playing for money) between friends
- getting the games over with quickly
and it looks like Calm also said: "2 sunken no ring", which probably means 2 sunkens and no zerglings.
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this is bullshit, and a disappointment to the fans who want to see a good competition.
yet there are still no clear motives for doing such a thing and all we can do is speculate :\
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Braavos36402 Posts
As Nony said, it's a weak argument to say that they wouldn't do this "because they had no reason to" or "they could've done it before the match."
If the screenshots, VODs, replays, spectators, and what happened in the games confirm it, it happened, regardless of what Hwasin and Calm say in the interviews afterward. Like they really are going to be like "oh yeah we fixed the matches."
If this happened, I'm going to have to agree with people saying this is horrible behavior, and disagree with whoever is like "oh they made it to the finals they are allowed to fix games because they beat everyone." Progaming is not pro-wrestling, the matches are not rigged. If Calm decides to just stop trying and 5 hatchery before pool and dies to MM rush, that's fine... but fixing it before the match insults the tournament, spectators, and other players.
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it's fruitless labor to tell the truth, Andy, those who didn't watch the live match won't believe what you said.
just a stupid match ,let's forget that
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They shouldn't invite more than 2 koreans to these events, and NEVER from the same team like this.
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disqualify em both, pay regulation games(i guess?). thats how it would be done in any other sport, and by letting them walk away, we just prove starcraft audience isn't mature enough(as an audience) to do anything but awe at the koreans.
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I don't know what to believe. Is this official news?
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On October 22 2007 03:19 Wizard wrote:
I don't know what to believe. Is this official news?
There is already 100% proof, so yeah, its quite official.
Fuck them, seriously, fuck them.
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Belgium8305 Posts
Yeah, you can't doubt this happened.
It's not even remotely surprising, the Koreans have already shown their complete disregard for fair play at the past few WCGs, and yet they never get called out on it.
In my opinion, TL should try to get this news through to one of the big Korean fan sites like Fifo, where at least it'll stir up more controversy than here.
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we all know what's coming next: KARMA
+ Show Spoiler +Now I don't feel bad at all about Bisu's 2-game comeback right after this tournament
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In the case that it's true, this is idiotic. I think that both should be disqualified. It's an insult to the other participants, to the spectators, and to the organizers.
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Yeah, anybody fluent in Korean here needs to contact someone at FiFo or other known korean site and explain what has happened, this just can't go unnoticed..
I lost all my respect for the whole STX team right now ;;
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