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YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
October 21 2007 18:58 GMT
#101
yea this is really gay. this is such an insult to the fans, tournament sponsors, and anyone involved with running this, all of whom are the very reason these guys are able to play sc professionally.

testie and the others, i dont know how you cant see that the players do have some obligation to the fans/people running this. these are the people who give you the opportunity to still play this game at such a big scale. you sure as hell do owe them something.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-21 19:02:04
October 21 2007 18:58 GMT
#102
On October 22 2007 00:35 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I cant believe you Nick. In one subject you blast people for being dishonorable and disrespectful to others and here you are like "blah, they won everybody else its fine if they want to rig the final games." Thats a bunch of bullshit.

As someone said earlier, if they really were splitting the money and such there is absolutely NO purpose in NOT playing real final games. They can agree to split the money and still have a solid fucking series that the fans can view with excitement. Nobody should have to explain to you why its a good idea for the finals of a tourney to actually matter. The fact that people do means you still have a lot of growing/learning to do. And I mean that contextually.


qft

Also if they are going to do that sort of shit, which is wrong in my opinion, getting caught is even worse, it is sloppy on multiple levels because they make public the lack of respect they had for the tournament they were invited too, not smart at all..
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
kamehameha
Profile Joined October 2007
Ukraine152 Posts
October 21 2007 19:14 GMT
#103
oh well this is what you get when you invite players who are 10folds superior then any of the other players in this tourney, they think they can do whatever they want(as we saw with stork in wcg), a simple solution is that you dont invite any more korean progamers to events like this but then who would pay attention to these events? the only reason we like watching this is to see if any "foreigners" can do some damage vs korean progamers, and by past experience we saw that they couldnt do anything vs them, so until you invite progamer you should expect situations like this occuring over and over again because they think they can control "foreign tournaments" with their skill level
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
October 21 2007 19:14 GMT
#104
savior x iris was totally real.

for gods sakes you cant say that proleague games are arranged too because of 2 idiot korean childs from the same team(stx).
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
malkavian47
Profile Joined June 2007
Croatia114 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-21 19:22:07
October 21 2007 19:21 GMT
#105
WCG & IEST got fucked.

edit: by tiny korean penises.
die FireBatUrkel
axel
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
France385 Posts
October 21 2007 19:26 GMT
#106
pretty lame
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
October 21 2007 19:26 GMT
#107
On October 22 2007 04:21 malkavian47 wrote:
WCG & IEST got fucked.

edit: by tiny korean penises.

Ah, the one line edit, the difference between heaven and hell.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
October 21 2007 19:26 GMT
#108
lol
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
October 21 2007 19:30 GMT
#109
On October 22 2007 04:21 malkavian47 wrote:
WCG & IEST got fucked.

edit: by tiny korean penises.

Do they even realize how retarded they are?
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
October 21 2007 19:31 GMT
#110
On October 22 2007 03:41 Puosu wrote:
I lost all my respect for the whole STX team right now ;;


tossgirl too?
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
October 21 2007 19:34 GMT
#111
only invite amatuers from now on (like the PGL-dudes for example)
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-21 19:35:36
October 21 2007 19:35 GMT
#112
On October 22 2007 04:31 XCetron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2007 03:41 Puosu wrote:
I lost all my respect for the whole STX team right now ;;


tossgirl too?


sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
samsammy
Profile Joined December 2005
United States76 Posts
October 21 2007 19:43 GMT
#113
omg -_-. There is no evidence at all, and I can't believe some people are already believing that Calm and Hwasin fuxked up.

First, the screenshot. Hwasin did not replay. Calm did not say barracks or anything, he was discussing about 1 sunken + drones vs 2sunken + no drones/lings.

There is no evidence of you center barrack gogo okay? (no screenshot) - Hwasin does not replay.

Second. Koreans are very well aware that people are viewing their first person view. It happens all the time in MBC and OSL.

Third, No reason to fight. Hwasin Vs Calm in team battle is 5:5 ratio win. Why would cal decide to lose in the last moment, in 2 vs 2 ?

Besides the prize money, there is also the honor of being able to run in the Beijing olympics (if you guys didn't know, now you do) Currently Warcraft 'Moon' is foreign player #1, so I think he's going to run...

Fourth. Hwasin, Calm, Sheis are all from the same team. If they were all in it, why the hell did Hwasin play Sheis so loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.

No evidence, no whatsoever.
No fuxxin Korean would lose just because they are on the same team.

Savior Vs Iris - Savior lose on purpose? No.
etc, etc. When it comes to Korean vs Korean, they give it their 100%
More anger plz-
Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
October 21 2007 19:56 GMT
#114
I dont belive that they are that idiot to talk about that in public......
samsammy
Profile Joined December 2005
United States76 Posts
October 21 2007 19:59 GMT
#115
And I'll just give you a translation of Hwasin's interview after winning. After you guys read this and believe Hwasin cheated, you guys are retarded. Seriously. This was a stupid controversy.

Interview (Translated - forgive awkwardness in grammar)

- You have won in the IEST 2007
>> I think I played over 30 games over 3 days. It's the first time I've played so much during such a short period of time. It is harder than I though. I am sad that I dropped out of MSL, but I am happy that I won in the IEST.

- How was your match against Calm
>> I though I could lose because my condition was terrible after I arrived at China. While playing I realized I couldn't win if the game went longer. Calm was a lot better than me in other stuff, but I was won because I had more competition experience and mentality.

- How is your condition
>> I am tired. After losing yesterday I couldn't sleep and didn't eat, so before I came to China I only got three hours of sleep. I ate my first food in China. It got worse afternoon.

... I'm going to stop here, because the rest is irrelevant.

----------------------------
This is the interview with Calm Before the matchup.

- You have made it to the finals
> the word "finals" feels good. I feel happy because I was able to go up here with no losses.

- You are up against your teammate Hwasin.
> I wan't to play without stress over who wins. I want to have fun.

- Do you have any 'greed' for the prize money?
> I don't know, really. I guess I really want to win, though.

- It is your first time to attend an international competition
> It is fun fighting against foreigners. It was fun having matches with players all around the world.

etc

- If you predict the finals
> It wont be easy, but I think I can win 3-2. Our winning ratio is similar (hwasin vs Calm = 5:5 in practice games).... I will not be mad at the results
More anger plz-
yunicyarblejellythou
Profile Joined August 2007
United States77 Posts
October 21 2007 20:10 GMT
#116
Lawyer: Mr. Gotti have you ever been involved in illegal actiivities?

John Gotti: NEVER. I am a hard working tax paying union member in the carpentry business!

You see, obviously isn't guilty of anything.
Welly welly welly
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
October 21 2007 20:11 GMT
#117
I disagree with Testie, if this is true it's very bad. But I am just skeptical about this claim and this picture.
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1396 Posts
October 21 2007 20:16 GMT
#118
"There is no evidence of you center barrack gogo okay? (no screenshot) - Hwasin does not replay."


i saw it live /see on the other thread/ and hwasin was saying that not calm
mada mada dane
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
October 21 2007 20:21 GMT
#119
Sounds like Hwasin just wanted to finish as fast as possible. Whatever =/
no.1
Profile Joined March 2004
516 Posts
October 21 2007 20:24 GMT
#120
some ppl really so naive?
www.ygosu.com
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