EPTIEST Controversy - Page 7
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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ZerG~LegenD
Sweden1179 Posts
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sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
On October 22 2007 04:59 samsammy wrote: And I'll just give you a translation of Hwasin's interview after winning. After you guys read this and believe Hwasin cheated, you guys are retarded. Seriously. Man, I read that interwiev with an open mind expecting to find some good explanation to all of this and all that is says is that hwasin is happy he won, wtf? That interview didn't provide any proof at all, and if you can't see that, you are the one who is retarded. Seriously. | ||
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Broken.Mind
United States364 Posts
On October 22 2007 00:35 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I cant believe you Nick. In one subject you blast people for being dishonorable and disrespectful to others and here you are like "blah, they won everybody else its fine if they want to rig the final games." Thats a bunch of bullshit. As someone said earlier, if they really were splitting the money and such there is absolutely NO purpose in NOT playing real final games. They can agree to split the money and still have a solid fucking series that the fans can view with excitement. Nobody should have to explain to you why its a good idea for the finals of a tourney to actually matter. The fact that people do means you still have a lot of growing/learning to do. And I mean that contextually. Agreed | ||
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Broken.Mind
United States364 Posts
On October 22 2007 00:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: I completely agree with Testie. Sure its a little unsportsman like but thats the extent of it. They both earned the 1 and 2 spot. If they decide that they want to split the prize by playing a "setup game" then there is nothing in rules to stop them. It's their choice and completely legal. Sure the games may not be as entertaining for the fans but thats the way it goes. If I was good friends with an opponent. And we placed 1 and 2 in a tourniment and it was for a lot of money. I would do the exact same thing, hands down. Would you rather have a guranteed 16k or a 50% chance at 32k? Any smart gambler would take the guranteed 16k unless he was already rich  That being said, it doesnt really make sense why they wouldn't just play it out normally and split the money either way. So I don't know why they would rig the games.fuck "completely legal" It is their duty, their responsibility to compete and play to the best of there abilities. So what is E-sports now? Pro Wrestling entertainment? Set up matches and made up drama? If I want to start watching fake shit I will turn on WWE. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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The_Marine
Malta46 Posts
they were using /w command ,pretty cool btw, i feel sad for those retards that thinks the picture is photoshoped why the fuck would someone lie about this | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Jesus christ people. If anyone is buying the fucking interview crap they are in dire need of suicide. OF COURSE they dont come out and say "Yeah those last games, they were fixed. We just want to get out of your stinky country and back to korea where dressing like we do doesnt mean you are gay!" Hwasin and Calm can go fuck themselves. This situation alone does not upset me that much. But its the multiple times when koreans view the rest of the world in SC as idiotic garbage not worth the time. Even if you fucking believe that, you at least create the illusion you care/give a fuck about other people. Otherwise you come off like a pompous prick who needs a good beat down(reality check). Give them their money. Send them home. But in future IEST's, either DONT invite koreans or invite hungry professionals of the lower class who still have yet to be corrupted. I want a real tourney with huge upsets and epic battles.. not a fucking charade with egotistical game fixers. | ||
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The_Marine
Malta46 Posts
On October 22 2007 04:14 kamehameha wrote: oh well this is what you get when you invite players who are 10folds superior then any of the other players in this tourney, they think they can do whatever they want(as we saw with stork in wcg), a simple solution is that you dont invite any more korean progamers to events like this but then who would pay attention to these events? the only reason we like watching this is to see if any "foreigners" can do some damage vs korean progamers, and by past experience we saw that they couldnt do anything vs them, so until you invite progamer you should expect situations like this occuring over and over again because they think they can control "foreign tournaments" with their skill level pgl has no progamers , and there loved by all, probably more than iest | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On October 22 2007 05:42 KissBlade wrote: Umm... this shit better gets reported to Fifo or something because if things like this is actually allowed and not put a stop to IMMEDIATELY, it can ruin Starcraft esports as we know it. Imagine watching a match thinking it's going to be just fixed. Takes all the excitement out of it. foreign tournaments with top pros have always been like this | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Blizzcon, Blizzard invitation or w/e and various others have all gone down without a hitch. | ||
lilsusie
3861 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On October 22 2007 06:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: no they havent. Blizzcon, Blizzard invitation or w/e and various others have all gone down without a hitch. didnt say it happens at every single one, but his post made it sound as if this was something revolutionary. its been happening since at least wcg 05 with midas vs a2, and probably before. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On October 22 2007 06:07 IdrA wrote: foreign tournaments with top pros have always been like this "have always been like this" = 100% You make no suggestion for me to think you only mean partially or sometimes. You were wrong I was right /nitpicking over | ||
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no.1
516 Posts
On October 22 2007 06:00 {88}iNcontroL wrote: samsammy is fucking stupid. Jesus christ people. If anyone is buying the fucking interview crap they are in dire need of suicide. OF COURSE they dont come out and say "Yeah those last games, they were fixed. We just want to get out of your stinky country and back to korea where dressing like we do doesnt mean you are gay!" Hwasin and Calm can go fuck themselves. This situation alone does not upset me that much. But its the multiple times when koreans view the rest of the world in SC as idiotic garbage not worth the time. Even if you fucking believe that, you at least create the illusion you care/give a fuck about other people. Otherwise you come off like a pompous prick who needs a good beat down(reality check). Give them their money. Send them home. But in future IEST's, either DONT invite koreans or invite hungry professionals of the lower class who still have yet to be corrupted. I want a real tourney with huge upsets and epic battles.. not a fucking charade with egotistical game fixers. thought the same | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On October 22 2007 05:32 ZerG~LegenD wrote: ya it isIs it even possibile to use the whisper command over LAN? I though those commands were b.net only. | ||
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sohee_pink
Philippines447 Posts
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
lol [edit] http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58104 | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
I guess progaming finally has lost its soul or however you want to say it, when the money becomes more important than the love of the game. gg. | ||
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Lhyviathan
Australia975 Posts
On October 22 2007 04:59 samsammy wrote: And I'll just give you a translation of Hwasin's interview after winning. After you guys read this and believe Hwasin cheated, you guys are retarded. Seriously. This was a stupid controversy. Interview (Translated - forgive awkwardness in grammar) - You have won in the IEST 2007 >> I think I played over 30 games over 3 days. It's the first time I've played so much during such a short period of time. It is harder than I though. I am sad that I dropped out of MSL, but I am happy that I won in the IEST. - How was your match against Calm >> I though I could lose because my condition was terrible after I arrived at China. While playing I realized I couldn't win if the game went longer. Calm was a lot better than me in other stuff, but I was won because I had more competition experience and mentality. - How is your condition >> I am tired. After losing yesterday I couldn't sleep and didn't eat, so before I came to China I only got three hours of sleep. I ate my first food in China. It got worse afternoon. ... I'm going to stop here, because the rest is irrelevant. ---------------------------- This is the interview with Calm Before the matchup. - You have made it to the finals > the word "finals" feels good. I feel happy because I was able to go up here with no losses. - You are up against your teammate Hwasin. > I wan't to play without stress over who wins. I want to have fun. - Do you have any 'greed' for the prize money? > I don't know, really. I guess I really want to win, though. - It is your first time to attend an international competition > It is fun fighting against foreigners. It was fun having matches with players all around the world. etc - If you predict the finals > It wont be easy, but I think I can win 3-2. Our winning ratio is similar (hwasin vs Calm = 5:5 in practice games).... I will not be mad at the results Well, thanks for the translation, but that seriously clears up nothing. Fucking fixed matches. I'm so disillusioned right now.  | ||
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