• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:00
CET 08:00
KST 16:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1833
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1468 users

IEST Controversy

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-21 17:18:17
October 21 2007 13:13 GMT
#1
it was bo5 ,first three game Hawsin 1:2
im starting watch the forth Game from the first person
Hawsin joind the game,then Hawsin got a message from Clam
from Stx_clam : center baracket ok me 12 pool?
then Hawsin typed and replay : 00 kk
i was thinking its all about last game they discussing then i relised its not they are talking about the next game
Game 4 on Tau Cross
Hawsin scv went to the map center and buit Baracket their
all audience and broadcaster didnt know it was arranged,they are very exciting , Clam lost game softly

Game 5

they are talking again , but sorry they were not speaking good english or just maybe some words i cant understand
but i clear saw message from Clam : me 1 sunken all drone

Final game Hawsin 3BB marine and medic, all Clam Have is 1 Sunken as he said before the game

we are all fooled by those korean Pro Gamers

and I have to belive the Rumor about the OSL and Msl some arranged game maybe ture.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
October 21 2007 13:17 GMT
#2
sources please
Teamliquidian townie
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:19 GMT
#3
its on PPlive, the video will come out shortly

they may thought no one knows this,but in IEST its like PGL

we have both firs person view live from two players

kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
October 21 2007 13:19 GMT
#4
wow, if they would stoop as low to rig a games in a foreign tournament, (excluding wcg, that sounds downright disgraceful in this case).

Cant they just play the bo5 to the best of their abilities, give the fans something to cheer for?
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
October 21 2007 13:21 GMT
#5
Give me one reason why they would do such a thing when the game is about money.
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
October 21 2007 13:22 GMT
#6
they can split the cash? There on the same team aswell..

In smash bros. i know that games have been thrown at mlg for money reasons.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:22 GMT
#7
its simple

they are from the same Team STX

and they are korean

its enough
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
October 21 2007 13:25 GMT
#8
You "have to" believe, then you believe. That's all. Stating what you saw makes sense, but your personal thought doesn't. They fooled IEST in case that two finalists were from the same team and they had already insured the US$32,000 champion and runner-up award, so progaming fooled all? IEST is not progaming.
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:27 GMT
#9
look back the World Cup 2002

Impossible is nothing
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 21 2007 13:29 GMT
#10
Stop over analyzing.
They did what they wanted to do, because they got that far by beating everyone legitly and badly.
The end.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:30 GMT
#11
On October 21 2007 22:29 MYM.Testie wrote:
Stop over analyzing.
They did what they wanted to do, because they got that far by beating everyone legitly and badly.
The end.


audience paid the ticket ,they have to respect them to show their ability and not like this

AyOnY
Profile Joined July 2006
Pitcairn1026 Posts
October 21 2007 13:31 GMT
#12
Did they type it in english or korean?
GoRush fan~
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 21 2007 13:31 GMT
#13
Unless you know for sure you should not be making accusations.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:33 GMT
#14
someone help me to upload this pic plz http://www.playsc.com/bbs/attachments/month_0710/20071021_21963dac58424c1dfa5316fKrPz9PzpP.jpg
A.G)Andy
Profile Joined May 2003
China127 Posts
October 21 2007 13:35 GMT
#15
On October 21 2007 22:31 MYM.Testie wrote:
Unless you know for sure you should not be making accusations.


go msn plz i transfer you the picture

SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 21 2007 13:37 GMT
#16
So what do you want to do about it?
They are friends and team mates who probably agreed to split the prize money.

Even if their actions are proved true, it's not like anything should be done about it, or any penalization. Because they did win fair and square.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
October 21 2007 13:37 GMT
#17
If they come from the same team and this is something that happens often, why can't they just talk about it before the match? Using lobby chat to talk about that is way too risky to make any sense IMO.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
October 21 2007 13:37 GMT
#18
if they did fix the match, then its a real shame, instead of giving the audience something to enjoy, they gave them rigged games. that screenshot looks pretty incriminating btw.

prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
October 21 2007 13:40 GMT
#19
On October 21 2007 22:37 MYM.Testie wrote:
So what do you want to do about it?
They are friends and team mates who probably agreed to split the prize money.

Even if their actions are proved true, it's not like anything should be done about it, or any penalization. Because they did win fair and square.

Have you ever heard of sportmanship? I'm surprised that a player like you think that way.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
October 21 2007 13:42 GMT
#20
US$32,000 is a huge sum of korean won (or whatever the currency is though) and i can understand how they'd be tempted by the prospect of split winnings instead of a potentially smaller sum.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 163
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 543
Noble 273
Larva 132
Zeus 91
Shuttle 77
ZergMaN 71
Shine 50
Sharp 47
Bale 15
Icarus 7
League of Legends
JimRising 752
C9.Mang0554
Other Games
summit1g4745
Mew2King125
NeuroSwarm74
minikerr44
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2465
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 42
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 41
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1193
• Stunt545
Upcoming Events
OSC
5h
SKillous vs ArT
ArT vs Babymarine
NightMare vs TriGGeR
YoungYakov vs TBD
All-Star Invitational
19h 15m
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 5h
AI Arena Tournament
1d 13h
All-Star Invitational
1d 19h
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-14
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.