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InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
October 22 2007 16:17 GMT
#441
On October 23 2007 00:26 samsammy wrote:
And I give up if you guys don't believe me. I actually never thought the foreign gaming community had so much antagonism and suspicion against the Korean.

Where did you get this from -.- I thought this controversy was about unsportsmanlike behavior of professional gamers in the tournament. That's just happened that all starcraft progamers are Koreans, but that has nothing to do with this situation. Those who see it as China vs Korea or whatnot are not very smart people in my opinion.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
October 22 2007 16:29 GMT
#442
samsammy lives in a magical world where there is no corruption or anything "bad"
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 22 2007 16:31 GMT
#443
wtf why isnt this closed
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 22 2007 16:31 GMT
#444
On October 23 2007 01:17 InRaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2007 00:26 samsammy wrote:
And I give up if you guys don't believe me. I actually never thought the foreign gaming community had so much antagonism and suspicion against the Korean.

Where did you get this from -.- I thought this controversy was about unsportsmanlike behavior of professional gamers in the tournament. That's just happened that all starcraft progamers are Koreans, but that has nothing to do with this situation. Those who see it as China vs Korea or whatnot are not very smart people in my opinion.

Yeah seriously, who cares if they are korean or not -_-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 22 2007 16:44 GMT
#445
SAMSAMMY WE ALL HATE KOREANS

Hence the avid following of the korean professional gaming scene. You realize this website is the top foreigner media for commenting/watching/downloading/discussing korean professionals in bw? If there was ever a place you could never make the assumption that a community collectively hates koreans its the website that does said activity and then suppliments it with continual pictures of featureless korean girls in young clothing and photoshopped eyes/lips displaying the breasts they dont have for thousands of drooling white men.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-22 17:00:58
October 22 2007 16:46 GMT
#446
On October 23 2007 00:51 Live2Win wrote:
What I found most interesting is that both articles released by FiFo and Fomos referred to THIS VERY THREAD as the start of the controversy. Fomos actually said "the controversy began when someone posted pictures of the chatting screen on the famous foreign website teamliquid". I was like "THAT'S US BITCHES!"
haha. that's some interesting reporting there.

"The controversy over the terrorist bombings started when someone posted pictures of the affair on the famous foreign website al jazeera." well okkkk, cite your source some other way, maybe?

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 22 2007 16:54 GMT
#447
I've never been more embarrassed to be an Asian at the face of the ridiculous amount of racism spewed in this thread between Chinese and Koreans. I'm angry because as a Hwasin fan I feel betrayed by not only his behavior but more importantly his refusal to fess up and just give a simple apology. Regardless of whether you think his actions were justified or not, the fans expected good games. Not "Here's what I'm going to do so you can prepare the exact counter". It's even MORE ridiculous that now it seems Fomos is trying to blame Teamliquid for it when Tl.net has to be one of the best and openminded sources on Proleague SC the foreign scene has. Also Andy's remark about World Cup was completely uncalled for and I hope it's recognized that that's not the perspective of all Chinese.
lostman
Profile Joined February 2007
194 Posts
October 22 2007 17:08 GMT
#448
I hope a mod can go through this whole thread and delete all the racist shit, from both Koreans and Chinese. Most of it was totally irrelevant and it looks terrible for Tlnet, especially if people from other sites might be coming in to scan through the thread.

Korean people please keep us updated on the Korean community's opinion on this matter - to me it seems blatently obvious that this "mind games" thing is nothing but a weak excuse and surely some Koreans can see that as well?
NeX-ChoBo
Profile Joined October 2006
China11 Posts
October 22 2007 17:10 GMT
#449
Well the reason for Hwasin and calm to stage wasn't because hwasin had to fly back to Korea to play his games so i doubt that. Otherwise it would be a quick 3-0 but that would look too wtf? lol well im just keeping a open mind. Even tho its very likely hwasin and calm did this and maybe they don't care but all in all the fans paid money to see IEST. You have to respect that, they wanted to see good matches not rigged ones. I hope SC doesn't die outside of Korea. Iest should only have US and China invited players. They shouldn't invite Korean players anymore and incontrol's comment is just retarded that fatass tard needs to quit sc kid's always negative about something even if its nothing. Fat Fuck lay off em donuts rofl
NeX for life
wifeH
Profile Joined March 2007
United States127 Posts
October 22 2007 17:20 GMT
#450
I want to see a recent picture of him.
SCSE - UCSD
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
October 22 2007 17:21 GMT
#451
On October 23 2007 00:48 Chill wrote:
Okay, no more bullshit. If you want to discuss something new, that's fine, such as implications or how this can be avoided in the future.

If you post the same stuff, you will be banned, such as why you don't believe this happened. This is directed at you, samsammy. I'm not trying to bait you into getting banned, but your arguments and tone in this thread are ridiculous. If you don't believe there was foul play, that's great, but don't post about it here any more.

Conversely, we don't need to hear others' theories about why they think there was foul play. It's been discussed to death in the previous 20 pages.


I think it's better off just locking the thread, rather then banning a bunch of people who just didn't read this far.
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
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