EPTIEST Controversy - Page 22
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Jathin
United States3505 Posts
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Never Post
United Kingdom503 Posts
They shouldn't even bother inviting the top players, stuff like this is bound to happen. WCG has to include everyone by principle, the match throwing happens every single year. IEST has a choice of who to invite, just go for the lower-tier koreans who are sure to play for real. | ||
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samsammy
United States76 Posts
If you believe Hwasin is right, everything makes sense. If you believe Hwasin is wrong, everything makes sense. There is no logic in this accusation. 1st there are no motivations 2nd games 1,2,3 were legit thrid games 4,5 were legit without viewing the whispers. There was no reason for calm to make more than one or two sunkens. No zerg player would do these days unless he knows the opponent was doing an 'all in.' normally one would assume the terran player take a double. Just think about the fourth game and fifth game. What would a pro do at the situation? Exactly what calm did Do 12 pool. You guys are stupidly innocent if you guys think 'he said he'll do 12 pool and he did, so he rigged it.' And some of the words and the gameplay doesn't make sense. The reason that they whispered was because they didn't believe the people could see the fp version. Why wouldn't they clear things up, rather than vaguley talking about what to do? Why didn't calm whisper to HWasin and say, hey I'm at 11 o clock The koreans aren't being ignorant, you guys are. | ||
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Honk2000
Germany698 Posts
On October 23 2007 00:23 Jathin wrote: Could it possibly be the fact that build orders were declared before the game started? did they declare in the chat who is going to win? | ||
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samsammy
United States76 Posts
IEST Koreans got 1,2,3 place. They tried their best (considering conditions) | ||
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samsammy
United States76 Posts
On October 23 2007 00:26 Honk2000 wrote: did they declare in the chat who is going to win? It wasn't declaring, It was playing around. God you guys are innocent. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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samsammy
United States76 Posts
I may be passionately retarded, but you're just ignorantly blind + deaf. And I feel sorry for you. | ||
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
On October 23 2007 00:26 samsammy wrote: There is no logic in this accusation 1st there are no motivations -> There are many possible motivations, as said earlier in this thread. 2nd games 1,2,3 were legit -> In a BO5, the last 2 games are games that matter. thrid games 4,5 were legit without viewing the whispers. -> Yes they are perfectly OK, but problem here is WE CAN SEE THE WHISPERS. Explaining the messages as "mind game" doesn't sound right to me because they played exactly like that. It takes some effort to type the whisper command (the nickname is long and it's in game lobby, they can't copy/paste), it just looks too serious and intentional to me to look like playful harmless fooling around messages. Anyway it seems Koreans don't care about it now, the only thing us foreign fans can do is to accept it and start boycotting STX from now on.  | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Honk2000
Germany698 Posts
On October 23 2007 00:29 samsammy wrote: It wasn't declaring, It was playing around. God you guys are innocent. what i meant is they didn't say things like "me win you lose" or "me sal sal me gg" they were just talking about build orders and people getting paranoid that the games were therfor rigged it's just ridiculous. i think op recently discovered pro wrestling is only a show and thinks pro gamers do the same :/ | ||
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samsammy
United States76 Posts
On October 23 2007 00:39 mrdx wrote: Explaining the messages as "mind game" doesn't sound right to me because they played exactly like that. It takes some effort to type the whisper command (the nickname is long and it's in game lobby, they can't copy/paste), it just looks too serious and intentional to me to look like playful harmless fooling around messages. Anyway it seems Koreans don't care about it now, the only thing us foreign fans can do is to accept it and start boycotting STX from now on. Okay, this is my final. I'll shut up. The fact that you guys saw the whispers mean that Hwasin thought you guys couldn't see the whispers. I would expect something more than three lines then. And shit. If they wanted Hwasin to win, Calm coul've done without chatting, riggin, or anything. I'm pretty sure he could trick all of our eyes and lose if he wanted to. | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
If you post the same stuff, you will be banned, such as why you don't believe this happened. This is directed at you, samsammy. I'm not trying to bait you into getting banned, but your arguments and tone in this thread are ridiculous. If you don't believe there was foul play, that's great, but don't post about it here any more. Conversely, we don't need to hear others' theories about why they think there was foul play. It's been discussed to death in the previous 20 pages. | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
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Kassios
France1424 Posts
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samsammy
United States76 Posts
I never meant to be so 'harsh,' but my personality worked like that. I just couldn't help wanting to change to the opinon of people believing that Hwasin and Calm cheated (and so stupidly, too). I gave it my best, and I guess it didn't work. But I also do see clearly that this is a dead topic and we have our lives to take care after. So yeah, this is my last post. Uh yeah, don't ban me. | ||
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blazin777
United States30 Posts
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saranghaeCY-
United States446 Posts
On October 23 2007 00:48 Chill wrote: Okay, no more bullshit. If you want to discuss something new, that's fine, such as implications or how this can be avoided in the future. If you post the same stuff, you will be banned, such as why you don't believe this happened. This is directed at you, samsammy. I'm not trying to bait you into getting banned, but your arguments and tone in this thread are ridiculous. If you don't believe there was foul play, that's great, but don't post about it here any more. Conversely, we don't need to hear others' theories about why they think there was foul play. It's been discussed to death in the previous 20 pages. | ||
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