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Korea (South)17174 Posts
In regards to StarCraft SuperStars tournament and artosis's post here:
On October 13 2007 06:07 Artosis3 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2007 22:57 Rekrul wrote:
daniel i know you are probably going to read this, even though you probably don't value my opinion:
all the players in this line up have absolutely no talent except assem unless you're being forced to do this by estro... taking them is a terribly bad idea how do you think assem got his "talent"? through PRACTICE. you got a free shot at progaming because of who your friends were. we now have a tournament where some of us who really want it can earn it and you are trying to sabotage this. you dont actually know everything, sorry.
You are right I did get a 'free shot' at progaming because when I came to Korea the skill level among foreigners, whilst still having a huge gap between the skill level of koreans, was much closer to the koreans than modern day. I was indeed one of the top foreigners back then but I certainly wasn't the best.
Now fast forward to modern day where the skill level of korean gamers is so fucking insane to a point where it is basically unattainable for non-koreans (if you think Draco got close to it you are ignorant, but he did get farther than any other non korean skill-wise imo). So here we have a korean community full of gamers so damn good and a non-korean community full of all the 4th rate newbies from the past when all the good players played. None of you have improved like the koreans. Your skill levels have stagnated and you have merely learned to copy some macro build orders invented by the new generations and learned to click faster (not you artosis ur the same as always, no offense..just a fact). Not only that, but this tournament doesn't even have the best foreign players from this day and age. It has a few good ones but the rest are 2nd and 3rd rate newbies even by today's foreigner standards. How exactly does winning a 16 man tournament full of trash players make you 'earn it' ?? You say this is going to make you earn it, whereas I got a 'free shot' by earning the respect of the whole Hexatron team and ElkY and Grrr (real progamers, who have a real sense of talent and skill, unlike you...who is a clueless newbie with a hopeless dream). Winning this tournament doesn't mean shit. It earns you nothing. It proves nothing. It only proves which one of the 2nd and 3rd rate newbies on the day of the tournament is playing the best and/or the luckiest. Whoever came up with this whole idea is doing you guys a huge favor giving you guys a chance at a little money and a chance at coming to Korea and having fun on a team.
I know this is harsh and kind of mean seeing as how it is your dream to come to Korea and be a progamer. But get your facts straight. U blow.
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United States20664 Posts
Mildly amusing.
I can't say I'm knowledgeable enough to say for sure, but generally agreed that whoever wins won't accomplish anything in Korea.
That's not to say that it's not a good opportunity, though.
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Bit blunt but entirety is true.
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i say rekrul\'s got the experience to finish him like that.
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
if we fight amongst ourselves, it's impossible to build anything.. no matter the dream, no matter the purpose, no matter the truth; it simply becomes irrelevant.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
oh shut the hell up physician
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On October 13 2007 11:10 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh shut the hell up physician hahahaha
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Why didn't they just do the same tournament, but in China, coinciding with the IEST, meaning all the best foreigners will be there?
At least China has some semblance of skill comparable to Korean standards.
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Everything you say is true, however, events such as this really are an opportunity to push foreigners into getting better and closing the skill gap
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On October 13 2007 11:11 yubee wrote:hahahaha
ROFL
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rofl steve, btw agreed rekrul artosis stfu pls and go die
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On October 13 2007 11:22 mayap wrote:
rofl steve, btw agreed rekrul artosis stfu pls and go die
Wow, thats a nice way to talk.
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On October 13 2007 11:30 Camlito wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2007 11:22 mayap wrote:
rofl steve, btw agreed rekrul artosis stfu pls and go die Wow, thats a nice way to talk.
well alot of people agree, artosis convinced himself he's good and still talks shit to people, he needs to realize he doesnt have the potential to play anywhere but his moms basement =/
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On October 13 2007 11:32 Months wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2007 11:30 Camlito wrote:On October 13 2007 11:22 mayap wrote:
rofl steve, btw agreed rekrul artosis stfu pls and go die Wow, thats a nice way to talk. well alot of people agree, artosis convinced himself he's good and still talks shit to people, he needs to realize he doesnt have the potential to play anywhere but his moms basement =/
Fair enough but the way he just goes and sais that isnt needed.
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lol good points, just get over it. non koreans will never be good as koreans. even amateur korean players will trash any top foreign player 10-0
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Like any other sport, you need a pool of good players to find that special talent. Korea's got their entire youth participating, sort of like America has with football and basketball. You can't expect a country that does not have as large of a pool to find these special talents. However, that doesn't mean there should not be one or two specials out there. Someone that should theoretically go to Korea and learn/innovate, well that's the dream anyway. C'mon, I'm sure we can find one Dirk Nowitzky or Yao Ming, even in a smaller and less competitive pool of players.
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How do you explain 2-1 series with top Koreans vs top foreigners then, Steroid? o.o
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EPT
