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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-13 22:03:10
October 13 2007 21:59 GMT
#261
On October 13 2007 23:02 Hot_Bid wrote:
you don't think creativity and innovation are talent-based things? i don't think you can manufacture a great artist.

are you saying then, that if you were born to boxer's family and did exactly what boxer did during his life then you would be exactly the same as him? isn't that kind of a ridiculous statement?

why do proteams even bother selectively recruiting then? they can just take random people off the street.


Its almost like they believe that everything in life is predetermined and they have no true free will.

On October 13 2007 22:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
man that last line (in idra's post) is about the grudgiest crock of shit ive read

there's a huge difference in talent between socalled newschool players too. the difference is that now it's possible to become a good player without a significant amount of talent (but not a top player, top players still need significant talent) , while 5-10 years ago, it honestly wasn't.


Totally agree with that. Even on b.net vs pubs. I don't know if they all just maphack, or all finally know how to play, or what but even the sorriest low apm noobs can play pretty damn close to the top players just on build orders and practice alone.

Over the years natural ability to learn and strategize are getting broken down more and more into an exacting science. Especially with the maps they churn out lately. They are all designed for macro based FE builds and timing attacks. Its not like the old times where a pure strategist could win the majority of games, it just doesn't work anymore because the straight up solid builds are so good now they almost have no holes or flaws.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
October 13 2007 22:05 GMT
#262
so where the fuck is strafe...

Nal_CrayOn
Profile Joined December 2004
600 Posts
October 13 2007 22:30 GMT
#263
On October 14 2007 04:25 IdrA wrote:
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On October 14 2007 03:46 Nal_CrayOn wrote:
I can ask people around on forum if i want.

just STOP trying to defence every word on to assem. I wasn't harassing any to ur god on sc, was asking if he fucking picked these players or not. And from i see the fucking player lists, u people are OBVIOUSLY involved in this. Dont even act u are not. "themachine"?

what the fuck are you talking about
just because media players are in it assem must have picked us?
what north american players deserve to be in instead of us?
puerto didnt invite oldy because he admitted to hacking, testie had a spot but turned it down since hes gonna be in china and already has the cj invite. tt1 refuses to play anything anymore since he 'quit europe'. who else would you rather have in?


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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 13 2007 22:34 GMT
#264
so basically you went on a rant about how assem is rigging it for media, even though he isnt involved at all, and bitched about how bad everyone in it is.. just because you're mad you didnt get a spot?

ask puertorican why he didnt invite you instead of talking about shit you dont know on a public forum.
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