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I'll do my best to vote whoever, but I'll take my warning if I can't. Artanis if that is not acceptable for you I'm OK being removed from the game before the game's start. | ||
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On February 20 2016 00:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Do you not have a chance to check your phone at any point in the first 24 hours? If not, I can default you to vote for yourself. There is a possibility I do not have the opportunity to even phone post. Thanks for the proposition (= that would be cool | ||
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 will only miss the first 24 hours if it starts tonight! Cool | ||
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On February 23 2016 09:26 darthfoley wrote: I think A is a hard cell; Kuragari was low activity lynchbait in the only game I played with him; you're good and you've coached me so i'm wary of you for that reason, and I haven't played with SL before, but spec'd a game or two of his (no read on him). I don't understand the bolded. Why ritoky coaching you makes you wary of him ? | ||
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On February 23 2016 09:40 Damdred wrote: @darth I don't think ls is lymchbait either but neither of you to my memory have the best record of being read so far by town. So it would be good to get you guys playing fast and figuring it out under 50/50 imo and maybe one of you ls would be revealed town and then it comes down to figuring out rels. Damdred one of your argument for using 50/50 on our cell is "LS is lynchbait". Well, you have a god read on LS, so why would you hope for LS to be inno child when you can always tell if he's town or not in every game you see him play ? | ||
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On February 23 2016 14:38 Kuragari42 wrote: Not necessarily, but unless I get some strong town read on someone else, which is unlikely, I figure my odds are just as good with him as anyone else. No. You cannot think that. You have no read on ritoky nor SL (at the time of this post, I'm page 12 right now) and since you know you're in the same cells as them, ritoky's odds of being scum are waaaaaay higher than "anyone else". 33% vs 50%. This doesn't make any sense. | ||
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On February 24 2016 05:32 Damdred wrote: I don't even know what yo say now, I'm such obvious time you idiots should be able to say lol the other guy is scum at this point. Gid dammit why do I even fucking try anymore, fuck it ok I'll be like lazy damdred from now on little to no explanation and guiding the thread. Seriously fuck Town | ||
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On February 24 2016 22:00 Shapelog wrote: I like that thought of yours too. Mafia would just push the 1v1 instead of trying to convince Breshke not to use it. Especially since there are some more useful cells to use that on. I am going to look into VA after i catch up. My reasoning to TR him doesn't feel good to me after sleeping. I 100% disagree with both you and Damdred. The only scums that are OK with using 50/50 are scums that are heavily townread, as 1v1 puts them in a position where the other guy is lynched. Scums that are scumread do not want to 50/50 used as they might lose the 1V1 fight. If Breshke is scum, he is MORE likely to be lynched in a 1v1 than in a 1v2. | ||
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On February 24 2016 05:58 Vivax wrote: Second cause it seems like an easy group and it gives me some more time to solve the game, im already tinfoiling about my kush tr cause of some stuff hes been asking that was bad/pointless/uninformed. This seems super weird to me because: - it's apparently a well-known fact that you just give up as scum, so I don't understand why you wouldn't want to go later so it's sure you're town - this tinfoil is so forced it seems to be only there 'cause someone said you're tinfoiling as town What posts made you doubt your kush townread ? | ||
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VA => aggressivly posting his thoughts and scumreads FF => kinda useless, don't know. Hope he's chosen by 50/50 if he's town. Breshke => his posts N0 are scum indicative. Questions that are useless or do not lead anywhere, only for the 3 hours that followed the game start. After that, only posted after his cell was chosen as the first to go. Will vote Breshke for now. DF => useless LS => no idea one way or another, it will become clear when he is up for lynch. Would like Damdred's read on him. Vivax =>has one weird post, but reading his filter has good posts on Shape + this post, where he says the opposite of waht he means (starts with OWS could be scum for that read progression, ends with I can undersatnd his read progression), which is town indicative kush => he cares => town. Only re evaluate if he tryharded and gives up from now on. bum => useless. OWS => sexy and aggressive like in PYP. Damdred => rsoultin "Damdred emo => Damdred town" + implication to solve the game. Shape => This post was super bad. Like, every explanation for his reads are either bad or obvious; AND THERE IS NO TOWNREAD. Every "townfeel" is balanced by something. In short, Shape is giving himself outs to scumread people. His unwilligness to townread Damdred is scummy. He also posted something about "Damdred wanting to waste the 50/50 on our group" several times, which is nonsense but in line with scum not wanting to deal with 50/50 in his group. ritoky => lots of question like in his last town game + using his meta to read people he can meta (me, DF, LS ...); as scum in outlaw he didn't do that. SL => bad feeling about him. Super, super different from his last town game where he was obvious town very early on. SL is hard to read though sometimes. kura => instant vote on ritoky, with shitty explanation. He didn't say "I don't care if mayor is scum" as his first explanation (which would be believable), he said "ritoky's odds of being scum are the same as everyone else", which implies that he cares that mayor is not scum; but he voted ritoky when he did not have a read on neither ritoky nor SL. | ||
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On February 24 2016 23:23 Shapelog wrote: Umm there are town reads (More of leans) in that post. And for scum reads SO while most of what you say is true. It is not true that I did not have ANY Town reads. Those townreads are weak. Like for kush, he didn't see his scum game so he cannot be sure. For VA, here is a thing that is weird BUT for shape might mean VA is town. | ||
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On February 24 2016 23:28 Shapelog wrote: Also @Rels. Can you please explain more about you read on OWS? Sexy I get, Aggressive I do not. OK reading his filter it was much less aggresive than I thought. I liked his posts though, especially his huge read post. | ||
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On February 24 2016 23:39 Shapelog wrote: Hell Rels also explain a bit more about darth too. I agree that he has not been as useful as I remember. But saying he is totally useless Is a bit of a stretch. He Might not really be pushing much. But he does care about things and voicing his Opinions. First post is useless. It's setup talk that do not really matter. Second post is kinda useless. He's scumreading VA slightly for something that might not be AI in his own words. | ||
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On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote: Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them. I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons. Posts he was referencing: + Show Spoiler + On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote: Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them? Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order? On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote: Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells? Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off? On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote: im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective. VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented. Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up About FF, since "Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless" and his only relevant post (about Breshke) are bad, FF HAS to be scum right ? Yet he seems super unsure about that fact. I don't undersatnd the VA scumread. If the scumread was only: VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning then OK, I would get it. But that shit is overexplained with stuff that is apparently "not alignment indicative yet". To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall. | ||
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On February 25 2016 00:06 Damdred wrote: I think you misunderstood my point about breshke rels. The question wasn't whether we should use the 50/50 or not but breshke said don't insta use it which forces him to do work on both. Oh. That might be good actually. | ||
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Mm actually it's weird that he is looking through FF's past scum games to check the difference, and not VA who is more likely scum in his mind. | ||
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