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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On February 23 2016 09:23 VayneAuthority wrote: as far as im concerned OWS just needs to look slightly town and ill vote shapelog before he even posts Interesting.... Might I inquire VA, Why would you vote me before you even read my posts. With the added fact that you never have played with me before? | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On February 23 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote: you overestimate my memory, barely remember what happened in that game but dont worry ill solve the game right now SL Obi Rels breshke vivax badabing Wait what? Now you are switching me for Cell B scum with Obi >_<. Now I am even more confused. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On February 23 2016 12:14 VayneAuthority wrote: obi least sure on, could easily be shapelog since he hasnt posted yet as far a sim aware Oh everything makes sense now. | ||
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Kuragari42
United States346 Posts
On February 23 2016 21:33 sicklucker wrote: I already figured it out.. Like my cell was solved the second player 3 voted player 2 for mayor. Because player 3 SHOULD THINK theres a 1 in 2 chance for player 2 to be scum. SO PLAYER 3 SHOULD NOT WANT PLAYER 2 TO BE MAYOR. PLAYER 3 DOES NOT CARE BECAUSE HES SCUM. like this is a free win we should use it Send our cell first; eliminate strong scum right off the bat. Not bad, I'm more down for the D4 but I'll roll with it. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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Kuragari42
United States346 Posts
On February 23 2016 21:36 sicklucker wrote: 0 skepticism to have ritoky mayor. I KNOW i have alot of probelm with that. I expect another town to have similiar problem solving logic. You expect too much from me. | ||
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Kuragari42
United States346 Posts
On February 23 2016 21:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Fair point on kuragari but here's some things you should consider: Mayor being scum isn't a huge deal - Agreed Kuragari is a newb. He probably doesn't think like you - True Maybe he doesn't have a great understanding of what's going on - I have an understanding, maybe not great. Ritoky is the kind of mafia who would try to get mayor. I could see the mayor race igniting his try hard - Agreed. What mafia wouldn't want to be mayor? | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On February 23 2016 20:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: You seem to admit that there are pros and cons to it. What makes one benefit definitively better than the other? Why does it make me scum for valuing one over the other? I never said one was definitely better than the other, but I don't think I really mentioned any pros to your strategy, which is why I questioned you in the first place. Unless you consider kicking the can down the road to be a pro. I do however think that gambling that inactive/afk people early game are going to get helpful and active later in the game-- especially if their inactivity is what got their cells placed later-- is just that: a gamble. With active players (e.g. cells A and B) isn't it a safer play to leave them in the game longer simply because their activity will allow them to be town read/scum read easier and because they'll create good town discussion? From what I've thought about your strategy, it just seems like it would benefit mafia more than town to not have that many strong towns/active towns late game and rely on low activity players to win the game for town. Am I missing something? | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
 ) It is a bit early in the game. But I rather have this written down. Going to be helpful this game  So Cell A: We have Rik, SL, and Kura. Funny enough, I have played with each of these lovely people once. They also all died before D2 when I played with them. I really do not know a lot about them. Rik, Who I want to town read, but have this "tryhard scum" feel from him. Pardonidia is a bitch right? SL, Has a weird entrance but is just weird in general. So I need to watch him. And then Kura. Kura from what I know, is a low content poster (as town mind you). He got lynched in the Newbie due to "Scum slip." For those wanting a filter from him that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/502408-newbie-student-mafia-xix?user=Kuragari42 From what i can tell, he was much more Srsy. in that game than this one. This one he is joking and stuff like that. It is different from b/4 though to say the least. Maybe the Free posting from him is just him excited. Cell B: So I am with Damdred and Obi. And one of them is scum. Wow, ok, that is different. So we got Damdred who is campaigning for mayor VS. Obi who hasn't done anything other then state questions or post 1/2 liners. So we got a scum between Tryhard guy and underwhelming guy. Prob. read closely at Damdred posts after this. Since this is my cell, I really do not care for the record when we go. Doesn't matter to me (although you people might have meta things and stuff like.) I just really do not want Mayor to go to Damdred mainly just b/c of him being in my cell. Cell C: Darth/KubRels/LS Oh wow, talk about strong townies (except one isn't). Darth from what I have played with him (Newbie XIX, Blue) is a strong town player. KubRels, well I scum read him and push him heavily b/4 as town, so need to watch that. I prob. look at his filter from Nut just to get idea of him again. But Content from him needs to be judged And then LS, who is stated to be hard to read. Idk about tbh, a lot of times he seems easy to read. However I have never rolled scum with him. I really do not know where to start on this one. Prob. wait a bit (prob. start of D1) before filter diving and trying to read them. Cell D: FF/Breskhe/VA People who I have not really played with or played briefly with. Quick Filter dive feels: FF: Happy to be "Town", which IIRC, Kush stated that he would have a scum burnout. That prob. filters into that post a bit tbh. Then reinstates it which feels weird. Another thing that stands out: He does not seem to care about why Breshke is being scum read by his other cell mate VA. I find it strange that FF, knowing if he is town that 1 or the other is scum, does not care about why they scum read each other. It just feels like FF didn't care. Breskhe: Anti-Mayor, Most of his talk is about set up. Fine with Damdred or Rit as mayor. I like the fact that he did not want afk players last. I agree with him on that, I feel that strong townies can help the game progress and help overall with the cells. Other than that, he really has not done anything. Kinda just talked about set up and left. VA: Scum reads! Scum reads everywhere! Wow, this guy is very aggressive. He really has not stated why he is scum reading people. But that actually makes me feel like he might be town. I feel personally that scum would feel the need to explain their scum reads. His attention is weirdly focused on My cell (B) and his Cell (D). I feel out the 3, right now if i had to pick, I say FF is scum. Does not make sense IMO, that he would not care about his other cell mates (while being town) scum reading each other. Especially since he would know that 1 of them had to be scum. Is a bit early though. So who knows. Maybe FF will blow me away or something. Cell E: Kush/Vivax/BUM MY MAN KUSH! I have played many of town games with Kush (I actually think, that all my games, Nut, Newbies 1&2, etc.) I have played with him. So Kush should know me very well. On the other hand, I have never played with scum Kush. So idk what to look at him for. His involvement + his attitude makes me want to TL him. So that Leaves Vivax and BUM. Which prob. is going to need a PoE in the long run. + Show Spoiler [things for me to remember for later.] + Bum: Wants his cell to go second last. posted nothing. and kinda peaces. I find him not wanting his cell to go till near the end a bit sus. Though it does fall in line with other peoples logic (Making them go on D3.) Vivax interested in trying to find scum in his cell. He feels different than from Nut (which is not much, considering I expect any scum like that to change their play-style). His other post is a bit weak. One that stands out is "KubRel for Mayor post." Does not make sense really from a scum perspective to me. Even if they are a team. I agree that this cell should go D3 maybe, Just note that that is the weekend cell. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
I read a bit (did not bother looking at alignments btw) and kush did that last cell game (or one of them). I think we should spread them out tbh. Makes it a best of both worlds. (Theoretically speaking) Heavily active: Cell A, Cell B Weakly active: Cell C Weakly Afk: Cell D (could prob. be below.) Heavily Afk: Cell E Idk how to order it though. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On February 23 2016 07:27 ritoky wrote: C and D 1st and 2nd, but dunno which order yet E 3rd A and B 4th and 5th, but dunno which order yet If you move E down 1 or 2 I'll vote for you. | ||
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Kuragari42
United States346 Posts
On February 23 2016 22:45 Shapelog wrote: Hai Kura! Hello son. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 23 2016 23:23 darthfoley wrote: I never said one was definitely better than the other, but I don't think I really mentioned any pros to your strategy, which is why I questioned you in the first place. Unless you consider kicking the can down the road to be a pro. I do however think that gambling that inactive/afk people early game are going to get helpful and active later in the game-- especially if their inactivity is what got their cells placed later-- is just that: a gamble. With active players (e.g. cells A and B) isn't it a safer play to leave them in the game longer simply because their activity will allow them to be town read/scum read easier and because they'll create good town discussion? From what I've thought about your strategy, it just seems like it would benefit mafia more than town to not have that many strong towns/active towns late game and rely on low activity players to win the game for town. Am I missing something? you say "while that's true" | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On February 23 2016 23:34 Shapelog wrote: Totally Darth. Leave the Cell with the "Spammy Enigma" alive to create " good town discussion." I read a bit (did not bother looking at alignments btw) and kush did that last cell game (or one of them). I think we should spread them out tbh. Makes it a best of both worlds. (Theoretically speaking) Heavily active: Cell A, Cell B Weakly active: Cell C Weakly Afk: Cell D (could prob. be below.) Heavily Afk: Cell E Idk how to order it though. I sense some sarcasm lol. Tbf Shape, I have called you a spammy enigma, but I said cells A and B should go later because they could create good town discussion OR because they will probably be solidly read by late game. Why don't you know how to order it? Seems like you drew lots of conclusions from the cells. You say you like that Breshke doesn't want afk people last, but you town read Kush who has the exact opposite approach for cell order (actives first, afks later). Why? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On February 23 2016 23:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm getting tired of people calling me underwhelming. Plenty of time to be overwhelming | ||
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