On February 23 2016 08:22 Damdred wrote:
Hello everyone,

I am damdred and I will be running for mayor in this great town! As we remember the folly of last cell games we will not repeat that and give mafia easy victories. As my cell in the last game was the only one to give town a point I think I have a rather favorable plan to help us out.

The first thing we have to decide is where we want people to go, this is important.

The order I wish to propose is

C, D, E, B, A

The reasoning behind this is simple.

Cell C is perhaps the hardest out of the people as it has a couple lynch baits and hard to read people. We put this cell up first and use our 50/50. We instantly have a innocent child in the thread and we can focus on getting the first point for town. (plus rels is really good as town in short burst situation).

Cell D is another ok cell. Breshke if town by that time will have some form of good thoughts and hopefully someone who is good at reading vayne can help in that regard.

In day three is where ask the odience comes into play we would of had a good amount of time for everyone I. The obs to have a solid opinion.

At this point we should all know 100% if vicax is scum or town by his activity and involvement and what kush has going for him. The other person I don't know I think but if we figure out that cell we have a great chance for a point and a hopeful victory still having most of the super actives in game as well.

the last two cells I picked I. That order as the mayor powers will be used and I think we will win the game with cell 3 or my cell. And if it co to yes I will have a 100% read on ritoky and hopefully SL and I consider there cell to be the best in the game.

This is the plan we should follow, our focus each day in the first 24 hours should be on each cell (if we are in that cell) we have to formulate reads o. Other people in it and push them.

Put me as mayor and you can't go wrong I will push activity and push my plan through to the fi ish.

if you move c to second or third you have my vote

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 23 2016 06:34 GMT

#248

putting me last is fine and dandy. but me and ritoky never give up as scum. I think the last one should be with people who give up trying to look town like breske vivax or Ls. Thats garanteed town points imo

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 23 2016 06:36 GMT

#249

oh i misread dandreds propasal. I thought he had vivax in group one but hes in group three. Ya dandred is town

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 23 2016 06:38 GMT

#250

So I already found the scum in my group with ritoky tryharding and the other guy voting ritoky as mayor (lol as I already explained the bad logic behind that) now I can focus on winning the other blocks

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 23 2016 06:42 GMT

#251

On February 23 2016 09:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Darthfoley I've rolled scum 4 games in a row before this so you'll be able to tell real quick what I am

kinda buy what ff's selling tbh. I always read him town from his frustration from rolling vt 20 games straight lol

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

February 23 2016 06:46 GMT

#252

50 bucks

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

February 23 2016 06:50 GMT

#253

FF im already town reading you. You dont need to pay me 50 bucks this game. Thank you for the paypal transactions in previous game

darthfoley

United States8001 Posts

February 23 2016 07:01 GMT

#254

On February 23 2016 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Then in what order would you put the cells Darth? And are you toe reading rit? Anyone here?

I've read over the thread again and read through you and ritoky's filter.

I have a pretty strong TR on you right now. I like that you got down to business pretty early and explained your reasoning behind your cell order. I don't actually agree with it though-- after I've thought about the game format, I think cell C should be 2nd or 3rd, for reasons ritoky has already mentioned. (my order is below)

I also am currently town reading ritoky, but as I've mentioned i'm always kinda hesitant with him because he coached me very well in my last game as town and I feel like i'm an easy pocket for him. Part of the reason why I TR him is because I think his progression on me so far comes from town!ritoky-- the one longish post I made wasn't particularly great in any way. It actually makes me think he's more town for raising questions about my play. (Not trying to buddy or pocket me).

Personally i'm fine with either of you being mayor so far. Will probably hold my vote for a bit, but I like ritoky's cell order better than yours currently... so I am leaning to vote him.

Right now my cell order would be D/E C A B. I'm more comfortable with D going first because I think I have a decent grasp of Kush's play, and others have a good grasp of Vivax. In terms of powers, I would consider using one on group D but I don't think it's wise to use either on my cell. I think using the other one on cell A, or perhaps E is also good.

Why do you want your cell 4th and cell A 5th?

darthfoley

United States8001 Posts

February 23 2016 07:05 GMT

#255

I know Breshke hasn't posted much but I liked this post of his

On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:

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im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party.

I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier

Why would mafia not want an AFK party near the end? Also, didn't particularly like Kush's response

On February 23 2016 08:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Inactive people in early cells is bad because there's not a lot of content to go off of

While that's true, you're kinda just kicking the can down the road if you want to keep AFK people in longer. Wouldn't town benefit longer from having many active players left in longer?

darthfoley

United States8001 Posts

February 23 2016 07:06 GMT

#256

scratch the first "longer" in my last sentence lol

Damdred

15669 Posts

February 23 2016 07:32 GMT

#257

I actually haven't went to bed yet I was laying in bed thkung about game and decided to check in again.

So I think firstly putting kush/vivax cell first has a small negative in that vivax has more time to show himself confirmed scum or town. He really becomes obvious as time goes along usually by d2-3 we know pretty strongly one way or another. That's why I really don't want them to go early, the same could be said of kush. In a short 48 hour period I think if either is scum they could fake it. Longer? I doubt it seriously.

Generally I like to keep the strongest cells near the back, and my cell and ritokys cells are what I think are the strongest players due to analytical style and past record. Both cells on the whole have talkative people who can drive the game and step in we won't have a dead game.

As to why mine before rits well, I think (no offense to obi) ows has a tendency to go more afk as the game goes along. I usually by d4 have a reasonable read on him and I think rits cell can have much more information and if we get that far I think it is the strongest cell.

To me I don't think we can keep your cell in the game super long and I think it would be beneficial to use a power on yours.

darthfoley

United States8001 Posts

February 23 2016 07:42 GMT

#258

I understand why you want C to go in the first half, but I still don't really see why you should use a power on my cell-- mainly because town has less to go on with earlier votes and you feel more confident in your late game reads for other cell blocks?

Regarding cell D: do you have any reads on the three? Do you make anything of my post above about Breshke?

Damdred

15669 Posts

February 23 2016 07:42 GMT

#259

Also really going away this time to sleep.

The problem with saving powers for later cells is that your planning to lose one. The most important power to me is the 50/50 that's why I wanted to use it on yours.

Easy points. Imo its better to go for the points early and make scum have to go 3-0 through the harder to win cells. Ie kush/vivax damdred then ritoky/sl or whatever order.

LD mid to late game with people who can read him gone is 100% lynch bait as town. Unless he breaks the game in a sucky way.

Damdred

15669 Posts

February 23 2016 07:53 GMT

#260

I have a slight town lean on ff for tone and a couple things I mentioned earlier.

As for the power well. Yes I don't think we should save powers for a rainy day if we make it past 3 we should hit and hit fast.

d1 a 50% chance is better than a 33% it does help we have a n0 though