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On February 24 2016 00:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You want the easiest cells in the first three. Is that really up for debate?
The first team to three points wins. If you put easy cells last, you might not even get to them.
its not that simple though, you have to take into account player removal as it gets smaller. You do want a crutch cell last because its a 3 way lylo. You want 2 people that are very sure of whos scum in their cell.
Arguably mafia has the most influence early with 5 members in the game so I would say the best thing to do is put a shit cell first and use a power and then follow that up with 2 easy ones. then 4th cell hard again then 5th should be a very easy one because only they will be in the game. You can feel out the harder ones mid game
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On February 24 2016 01:08 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 00:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You want the easiest cells in the first three. Is that really up for debate?
The first team to three points wins. If you put easy cells last, you might not even get to them. its not that simple though, you have to take into account player removal as it gets smaller. You do want a crutch cell last because its a 3 way lylo. You want 2 people that are very sure of whos scum in their cell. Arguably mafia has the most influence early with 5 members in the game so I would say the best thing to do is put a shit cell first and use a power and then follow that up with 2 easy ones. then 4th cell hard again then 5th should be a very easy one because only they will be in the game. You can feel out the harder ones mid game
I agree that mafia has more influence early.
Putting an easy cell last is terrible though. The last cell only happens if it's 2-2. In a hypothetical 2-2 case with an easy last cell, you could replace a losing cell with the easy cell and have already won.
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On February 24 2016 01:22 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 01:08 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 24 2016 00:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You want the easiest cells in the first three. Is that really up for debate?
The first team to three points wins. If you put easy cells last, you might not even get to them. its not that simple though, you have to take into account player removal as it gets smaller. You do want a crutch cell last because its a 3 way lylo. You want 2 people that are very sure of whos scum in their cell. Arguably mafia has the most influence early with 5 members in the game so I would say the best thing to do is put a shit cell first and use a power and then follow that up with 2 easy ones. then 4th cell hard again then 5th should be a very easy one because only they will be in the game. You can feel out the harder ones mid game I agree that mafia has more influence early. Putting an easy cell last is terrible though. The last cell only happens if it's 2-2. In a hypothetical 2-2 case with an easy last cell, you could replace a losing cell with the easy cell and have already won.
Easy cells aren't as easy when you add more people to the mix imo though. more mafia to rig the vote. Like a good example is your cell. If you and vivax can read eachother and agree that bum is scum then ok go for it and be last. Otherwise it is highly likely I vote vivax when your cell comes up and that could be wrong and we lose that cell instead of win it if that makes sense.
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No....it really doesn't....
I am more lost....
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Well maybe I am not.
So VA, you put the hardest cell last, because it has the less chance of happening right?
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So VA, If I am getting this right, you want the hardest 2 lasted because 3 easy cells should = 3 scum lynches. And as the game goes on, if we screw up. We have the last 2 more easier because it becomes clearer?
That makes a lot of sense tbh.
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No hardest cell last is suicide because only those 3 players will be in the game at that point and they will be under high pressure and probably fuck it up. Much better to have something reasonable in lylo
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OH ok. I am being dumb :/
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Cell B should go first to spare our brains from more than one phase of shaperape.
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So here are some reads:
Cell A
If anything, I don't think ritoky is the scum in this cell - I'm a huge fan of his super-American rhetoric and the fact that he's actively trying to figure out the best order and such is townpoints for him. Some of his questioning is a little all over the place but he's trying to do things and that always makes me think highly of people.
I think I'm leaning towards kura being the scum in this cell. His posts have been horribly underwhelming and he isn't even trying to talk about anything relevant. Sicklucker has some weird posts, but sicklucker always does and I don't think less of him for it. The biggest strike I can come up with against him is that he came up with some weird percentage as to why ritoky shouldn't be mayor but couldn't come up with an alternative, though I'm not sure that's a relevant point.
Cell B
I've already discussed it, but I think shapelog is the scum in our cell.
I think I'll probably end up as the competing wagon if our cell winds up for lynch but I figured as such earlier.
If we do end up using an ability here, I think 50/50 is probably better on this cell than ask the audience. Obs isn't going to be helpful since I'm basically an engima to everyone all the time. The 50/50 has a chance of clearing me and making it way easier for everyone else, but if it doesn't then it's just going to be difficult regardless.
Cell C
LightningStrike seems pretty normal from my pov - I don't see much of a reason to suspect him and his thought process seems pretty solid/followable.
Foley had some weird post earlier where he wanted his cell to go first even though he had no clue what was going on in it? He seems sort of confident that people will be able to read him town which is always nice to see in newer players so I won't hold that against him. His other big posts have been relatively solid so townlean here.
Rels hasn't posted yet so...There you go.
PoE dictates that Rels is mafia but I can't solidify that read until he does things. Foley is my least confident townread in that cell so if Rels ends up looking supertown then that's probably where I'll take a second look at things.
Cell D
This is a cell that I might have a problem with. I have a townlean here but it's pretty shaky so I'd suggest we use a power here to make it easier.
Fecalfeast had a good bit on Breshke that I liked, namely that he thought Breshke was boring and underwhelming at a time where I thought something relatively similar. Normally I leave him alone because he's, like, super chill you guys, and he never really bothers me at all regardless of his alignment. Still a townlean but I'll be watching this cell regardless.
VA was suspicious of me earlier, which is par for the course, but PoE'd me as scum despite the fact that shapelog never posted or did anything at that point. Why did he write me off so early and why was he ignoring shapelog? It doesn't make any sense to me, but he admitted that it's kinda shaky so maybe it's just early game paranoia. Wait and see here.
Breshke is underwhelming and boring. Possible scum. I looked through his filter to find controversial things and there just wasn't anything there. Like, at all.
Cell E
Vivax has dedicated himself to being more unreadable since he keeps getting lynched for stupid garbage and I don't really blame him, but he will absolutely step up if he's town because that's just how he is provided that he's done offering himself up for lynch just to break his meta. (I'm actually pretty sure that he finished with that a while ago but I'm not entirely sure and I refuse to do research just to figure that out.)
Kush seems relatively town and is being bad at reading me as per usual so whatever there. Kush is mediocre and apathetic as scum and is usually lynched relatively quickly, whereas he almost always looks town and plays like town as town.
Bumatlarge is doing nothing along with Vivax and that's all I can say about that slot. I've never played with him so I don't know what he's like regardless.
I can read Vivax pretty well when he starts doing work so regardless of when this cell goes I think we can make it work. First is probably not a great idea but after that it's probably fine. Vivax can only remain low-key for so long.
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On February 24 2016 01:51 Kuragari42 wrote:
Cell B should go first to spare our brains from more than one phase of shaperape.
Stranged, I thought I roofied you......
+ Show Spoiler +Let me get my Cosby on. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JG9B68Y.jpg)
But for real. Other than me, Is there any other reasons Why you would want me to go now?
I mean you could be scum and like the fact that my cell mateys is scum reading me. But I like to think of sunshine and rainbows for right now.
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On February 24 2016 01:59 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 01:51 Kuragari42 wrote:
Cell B should go first to spare our brains from more than one phase of shaperape. Stranged, I thought I roofied you...... + Show Spoiler +Let me get my Cosby on. But for real. Other than me, Is there any other reasons Why you would want me to go now? I mean you could be scum and like the fact that my cell mateys is scum reading me. But I like to think of sunshine and rainbows for right now.
I have a very strong tolerance to rape drugs.
No other reason.
Doesn't matter if you die or not. All that matters is that you are gone.
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I dare someone to call me hard to read after that.
Go on.
I'm waiting.
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On February 24 2016 02:01 Kuragari42 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 01:59 Shapelog wrote:On February 24 2016 01:51 Kuragari42 wrote:
Cell B should go first to spare our brains from more than one phase of shaperape. Stranged, I thought I roofied you...... + Show Spoiler +Let me get my Cosby on. But for real. Other than me, Is there any other reasons Why you would want me to go now? I mean you could be scum and like the fact that my cell mateys is scum reading me. But I like to think of sunshine and rainbows for right now. I have a very strong tolerance to rape drugs. No other reason. Doesn't matter if you die or not. All that matters is that you are gone.
Is this because you hate me now b/c I played a scum game like that one guy you didn't catch till D4? Or because I am nonsense?
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This Obi guy is hard to read.
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On February 24 2016 02:05 Kuragari42 wrote:
This Obi guy is hard to read.
>:|
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On February 24 2016 02:04 Shapelog wrote:
Is this because you hate me now b/c I played a scum game like that one guy you didn't catch till D4? Or because I am nonsense?
Mostly the nonsense part.
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On February 24 2016 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I dare someone to call me hard to read after that.
Go on.
I'm waiting.
So you think that wot bought you lots of towncred?
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Busy right now, Will look at Obi's WoT in a hour
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On February 24 2016 02:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I dare someone to call me hard to read after that.
Go on.
I'm waiting. So you think that wot bought you lots of towncred?
Yep!
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