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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 23 2016 18:40 GMT
#361
On February 24 2016 03:27 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 03:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 24 2016 03:19 ritoky wrote:
On February 24 2016 03:16 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 24 2016 03:12 ritoky wrote:
has anyone thought about the gamblerino possibility of the 50/50? and how it might be able to land a guaranteed scum in the first cell....


first cell being?


the mayor puts their cell first, in this case me. 50/50's their own cell. for me there's a 50% chance it hits me which gives you vote info and eases paranoia, and a 50% chance it hits the other town in the cell; which lands us confirmed mafia.


mayor's cell has to go last right?

also how does it land us confirmed mafia? or is that under the assumption that you are confirmed town?


you can order the cells in any order, when i was mayor last time i put my cell first.

+ Show Spoiler +
funny enough me and meapak, the other town in my cell, voted on the mafia in our cell, while everyone else in the game voted on meapak even though he was the most obv town ever


because you shouldn't elect someone who you don't think is strong town as mayor? if mafia gets mayor they can just give a shit cell order, put themselves last, then burn both powers on the first cell or some similarly shitty scenario.


mayor does the prs. So if mayor goes first he has to use both prs on d1?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 23 2016 18:41 GMT
#362
You can't put your cell first if you are mayor. You have to put it early as two to use all the powers font do that

I still think my idea on cell order is the best.

ls/dart/rels, ff/va/bresh, vivax, mine or rits

ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 23 2016 18:41 GMT
#363
i figured you could still activate them from the dead?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 23 2016 18:42 GMT
#364
I don't actually know how I feel about those orders.
Maybe D C A B E?
Retired.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 23 2016 18:42 GMT
#365
On February 24 2016 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't actually know how I feel about those orders.
Maybe D C A B E?


why are you putting the easiest cell last...
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 23 2016 18:43 GMT
#366
On February 24 2016 03:42 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't actually know how I feel about those orders.
Maybe D C A B E?


why are you putting the easiest cell last...


Vivax has become close to impossible to read early - he only reveals himself later.
I talked about this in my giant wall, you know.
Retired.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 23 2016 18:43 GMT
#367
On February 24 2016 03:41 Damdred wrote:
You can't put your cell first if you are mayor. You have to put it early as two to use all the powers font do that

I still think my idea on cell order is the best.

ls/dart/rels, ff/va/bresh, vivax, mine or rits



I like this order. VA vs bresh should be a lot easier on d3 than d2.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 23 2016 18:45 GMT
#368
the problem with that order is that rels is afk currently and gets more obv town over time, and everyone that isn't female is pretty shitty at reading LS on day 1.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 23 2016 18:46 GMT
#369
On February 24 2016 03:45 ritoky wrote:
the problem with that order is that rels is afk currently and gets more obv town over time, and everyone that isn't female is pretty shitty at reading LS on day 1.


oh yeah i forgot that rels was gonna be afk. i retardedly thought he was just afk cause he's scum....
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 23 2016 18:49 GMT
#370
On February 24 2016 03:41 ritoky wrote:
i figured you could still activate them from the dead?


nah I don't think so. when you die you go into obs/
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 23 2016 18:51 GMT
#371
Powers are gone once you are gone.

LS is harder to read as game goes along, and just because some are shit at reading him early doesn't mean everyone is.

If you want your cell first rit I can put mine last and ls/rels d2, va d3 and then vivax d4.

Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 23 2016 18:52 GMT
#372
+ Show Spoiler [My respond to Obi WoT] +
On February 24 2016 01:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So here are some reads:

Cell A

If anything, I don't think ritoky is the scum in this cell - I'm a huge fan of his super-American rhetoric and the fact that he's actively trying to figure out the best order and such is townpoints for him. Some of his questioning is a little all over the place but he's trying to do things and that always makes me think highly of people.

I think I'm leaning towards kura being the scum in this cell. His posts have been horribly underwhelming and he isn't even trying to talk about anything relevant. Sicklucker has some weird posts, but sicklucker always does and I don't think less of him for it. The biggest strike I can come up with against him is that he came up with some weird percentage as to why ritoky shouldn't be mayor but couldn't come up with an alternative, though I'm not sure that's a relevant point.

Hmm, you prob. right about Ritoky. Idc about his american rhetoric, but his hardness about set up prob. gives him town points. Still have a weird feeling about him.

Agree with Kura being scum. For things stated and the fact that he is very different than from newbie (which is a bad reasoning tbh).

Cell B

I've already discussed it, but I think shapelog is the scum in our cell.

I think I'll probably end up as the competing wagon if our cell winds up for lynch but I figured as such earlier.
If we do end up using an ability here, I think 50/50 is probably better on this cell than ask the audience. Obs isn't going to be helpful since I'm basically an engima to everyone all the time. The 50/50 has a chance of clearing me and making it way easier for everyone else, but if it doesn't then it's just going to be difficult regardless.

Well I am not scum, but it is cute nonetheless. It is actually funny, I think this is the most helpful I been to Town, As Town.

I feel 50/50 is a bit of a waste for this cell though. But i can understand people wanting to use it due to Me and Obi. Makes the lynch between. Shape/Damdred, Shape/Obi, Damdred/Obi. I am fine with any of these (expect maybe the last) as it practically tells me who is scum.

A course, for other townies, 50/50 that results in a Shape/Obi lynch is not helpful. That is why it is a waste IMO. But 33% is not bad Gambling odds I suppose.

Obs seems weak IMO regardless of cell.

Damdred has yet to answer meh question so that is that.

Cell C

LightningStrike seems pretty normal from my pov - I don't see much of a reason to suspect him and his thought process seems pretty solid/followable.

Foley had some weird post earlier where he wanted his cell to go first even though he had no clue what was going on in it? He seems sort of confident that people will be able to read him town which is always nice to see in newer players so I won't hold that against him. His other big posts have been relatively solid so townlean here.

Rels hasn't posted yet so...There you go.

PoE dictates that Rels is mafia but I can't solidify that read until he does things. Foley is my least confident townread in that cell so if Rels ends up looking supertown then that's probably where I'll take a second look at things.

Rels not showing up in really the crutch of letting this cell go 1st or for that matter, reading the Cell.

Cell D

This is a cell that I might have a problem with. I have a townlean here but it's pretty shaky so I'd suggest we use a power here to make it easier.

Fecalfeast had a good bit on Breshke that I liked, namely that he thought Breshke was boring and underwhelming at a time where I thought something relatively similar. Normally I leave him alone because he's, like, super chill you guys, and he never really bothers me at all regardless of his alignment. Still a townlean but I'll be watching this cell regardless.

VA was suspicious of me earlier, which is par for the course, but PoE'd me as scum despite the fact that shapelog never posted or did anything at that point. Why did he write me off so early and why was he ignoring shapelog? It doesn't make any sense to me, but he admitted that it's kinda shaky so maybe it's just early game paranoia. Wait and see here.

Breshke is underwhelming and boring. Possible scum. I looked through his filter to find controversial things and there just wasn't anything there. Like, at all.

I have my reasoning to believe FF might be scum (and Breshke is still up and iffy). But in your read you say that he "never really bothers you at all." Why do you care if he bothers you? You going to have to be bother by him eventually.
He also had 1 real post about Breshke. Idk maybe your seeing something I don't, but he basically has not done anything to make me say he is town.

Statements about Breshke i agree with.

Cell E

Vivax has dedicated himself to being more unreadable since he keeps getting lynched for stupid garbage and I don't really blame him, but he will absolutely step up if he's town because that's just how he is provided that he's done offering himself up for lynch just to break his meta. (I'm actually pretty sure that he finished with that a while ago but I'm not entirely sure and I refuse to do research just to figure that out.)

Kush seems relatively town and is being bad at reading me as per usual so whatever there. Kush is mediocre and apathetic as scum and is usually lynched relatively quickly, whereas he almost always looks town and plays like town as town.

Bumatlarge is doing nothing along with Vivax and that's all I can say about that slot. I've never played with him so I don't know what he's like regardless.

I can read Vivax pretty well when he starts doing work so regardless of when this cell goes I think we can make it work. First is probably not a great idea but after that it's probably fine. Vivax can only remain low-key for so long.

Vivax fell off the face of the earth when i played with him. Bum only cares about going 4th which is weird as crap. Why does he want to be on a cell lynch that might not even take place? especially when his cell is one of the easier ones? Makes no sense to me if he is town.

I would bet money that Bum is the scum of that.

TLDR
I kinda Agree with most of Obi points (minus me being scum and FF being town). It kinda makes me want to give him town points.

But I know that either Damdred or Obi is scum. Urg. I guess I start looking at damdred filter in a bit.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 23 2016 18:53 GMT
#373
i think you should put the cell you plan to 50/50 first. would you 50/50 my cell if it went first?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 23 2016 18:53 GMT
#374
Also rels will be here last half of d1 so yeah. If he got hit by the 50/50 would be best of both worlds
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 23 2016 18:56 GMT
#375
Whoever goes first gets 50/50 no matter what I just hate our strongest cell first but maybe...
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
February 23 2016 18:59 GMT
#376
B should go first.
SMITE
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 23 2016 19:00 GMT
#377
Why B?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 23 2016 19:01 GMT
#378
rels good scum + afk most of day1 means he's going to be near impossible to read first day I think.
LS seems happy. According to tone meta, does that make him scum?
Darth's not super active.

So that is a shit cell d1.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 23 2016 19:03 GMT
#379
That's why we can move it till d2 give them much longer.

Rits cell can go first if he wants but yeah
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 23 2016 19:06 GMT
#380
the 50/50 being used on my cell and landing on the other town is just a free win in my cell.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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