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On July 24 2015 10:34 n00bKing wrote:
I'll be interested to see what Sulfurus brings to the table in this game. I felt like it was pretty easy to distinguish his scum game from his Town game
I could say the same about you.
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On July 25 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 05:44 n00bKing wrote:On July 25 2015 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 03:48 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 15:23 Sulfurus wrote:On July 24 2015 10:34 n00bKing wrote:
I'll be interested to see what Sulfurus brings to the table in this game. I felt like it was pretty easy to distinguish his scum game from his Town game I could say the same about you. So this was the first post that was made after I left. I'm really surprised to see that no one has commented on it, in the 10 pages that have followed. Sulfurus definitely could not say the same about me, unless he knows me from outside these forums, and just hasn't told me so. On the off chance that Sulfurus actually participates more today: What did you mean by that? And otherwise: Can anyone else make sense of what he's saying there? He either means it's easy for him aswell to distinguish your townplay from scumplay. Or that he wants to know what you have to bring to the table this game. He can't only mean the second one. He already edited things out of my post, since it originally said scum game in Newbie XII and town game in Newbie X. He took those parts out, but still left the rest of the sentence, so he must want it there for a reason. And he can't mean that he finds it easy to distinguish my townplay from my scumplay, (again, unless he knows me from outside the forums) because I haven't drawn a scum role yet. Now YOU might not have known that I've only been Town so far, but some of the other players in this game do know that, so it's a really weird thing for Sulfurus to say. I can talk about how I compared his scum play to his town play in earlier games. He never had the chance to do the same things with my earlier games. There aren't any scum games to look at. i was looking for this.  tbh i assumed this is what you were after (didn't know and too hard to check on phone, when i got home i forgot).
The mind-meld is real
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I believe I have 'auto' now since in a 13 player game we get 6 lynches (not counting a mafa nk + vigi) and I found at least 7 town including myself.
Here are the towns in order of approximate townyness
Towns
- raynpelikoneet
- Damdred
- Flexes
- Breshke
- ruXxar
- rels
And ofcourse lynches in order of aproximate scumyness
Lynches
- Barakos
- MoosyDoosy
- n00bKing
- NocturneMage
- TickTock
- disformation
I apologize to disformation for putting your name on the list; I think your probably town but I needed a sixth name.
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On July 25 2015 07:55 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 07:52 Sulfurus wrote:I believe I have 'auto' now since in a 13 player game we get 6 lynches (not counting a mafa nk + vigi) and I found at least 7 town including myself. Here are the towns in order of approximate townyness Towns- raynpelikoneet
- Damdred
- Flexes
- Breshke
- ruXxar
- rels
And ofcourse lynches in order of aproximate scumyness Lynches- Barakos
- MoosyDoosy
- n00bKing
- NocturneMage
- TickTock
- disformation
I apologize to disformation for putting your name on the list; I think your probably town but I needed a sixth name. Why is flexes more town than disformation?!!
Just look at this post
On July 24 2015 10:11 Flexes wrote:
hi everybody.
i'm new so i really don't know what to say and what conclusions to draw.
i don't know why ruxxor is so defensive about his "posting style" when the accusation against him is so baseless.
i still think you cannot tell either way though.
moosydoosy being the first one to point fingers to gain information gives him a slight townlean for me.
He literally sets himself up to not have to give any reads but gives reads anyways as a new player who, as mafia, has every reason to stay as silent as possible while getting used to the thread and once he did get comfortable he posted this gem
On July 25 2015 05:39 Flexes wrote:
i am here, but i don't wanna post stupid shit that clutters up the thread.
i'm writing up my thoughts on all players right now and will post my reads when finished.
Instead of acting out of paranoia of getting scum read he is going out of his way to make his posts as high quality as possible.
Now compare this with the way Nocturne has been playing...
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On July 25 2015 08:07 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 07:51 Sulfurus wrote:On July 25 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 05:44 n00bKing wrote:On July 25 2015 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 03:48 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 15:23 Sulfurus wrote:On July 24 2015 10:34 n00bKing wrote:
I'll be interested to see what Sulfurus brings to the table in this game. I felt like it was pretty easy to distinguish his scum game from his Town game I could say the same about you. So this was the first post that was made after I left. I'm really surprised to see that no one has commented on it, in the 10 pages that have followed. Sulfurus definitely could not say the same about me, unless he knows me from outside these forums, and just hasn't told me so. On the off chance that Sulfurus actually participates more today: What did you mean by that? And otherwise: Can anyone else make sense of what he's saying there? He either means it's easy for him aswell to distinguish your townplay from scumplay. Or that he wants to know what you have to bring to the table this game. He can't only mean the second one. He already edited things out of my post, since it originally said scum game in Newbie XII and town game in Newbie X. He took those parts out, but still left the rest of the sentence, so he must want it there for a reason. And he can't mean that he finds it easy to distinguish my townplay from my scumplay, (again, unless he knows me from outside the forums) because I haven't drawn a scum role yet. Now YOU might not have known that I've only been Town so far, but some of the other players in this game do know that, so it's a really weird thing for Sulfurus to say. I can talk about how I compared his scum play to his town play in earlier games. He never had the chance to do the same things with my earlier games. There aren't any scum games to look at. i was looking for this. tbh i assumed this is what you were after (didn't know and too hard to check on phone, when i got home i forgot). The mind-meld is real If the mind-meld between rayn and myself is real, then why do you have one of us on your Town reads and one on your Scum reads? lol
The mind-meld is between me and rayn FailFish
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On July 25 2015 08:58 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 07:52 Sulfurus wrote:I believe I have 'auto' now since in a 13 player game we get 6 lynches (not counting a mafa nk + vigi) and I found at least 7 town including myself. Here are the towns in order of approximate townyness Towns- raynpelikoneet
- Damdred
- Flexes
- Breshke
- ruXxar
- rels
And ofcourse lynches in order of aproximate scumyness Lynches- Barakos
- MoosyDoosy
- n00bKing
- NocturneMage
- TickTock
- disformation
I apologize to disformation for putting your name on the list; I think your probably town but I needed a sixth name. I am staring at this post for quite some time now. No idea where to begin with this... 1) I don't think this is how auto works... auto is when you have overwhelming evidence on one or more scum members. I don't see overwhelming evidence anywhere. Auto also suggests you are done putting any effort into this game... 2) I am quite positive that mafia will at least try to shoot someone every night. So I have no idea how you can work under the assumption of having 6 lynches. 3) At least 7 town reads? Do you have 7 town reads, or do you have 8 town reads, or do you have 9 town reads? 4) Super setup for stuff like "oh I would rather lynch #1 of my scum list, but I can settle for #5, too". Which is pretty scummy... 5) General lack of explanation for anything. 6) Total wrong mindset for town? This reads to me as "instead of finding and lynching the most scummiest person around, I'll just do a huge PoE list (which has half of the players on it) and be content to lynch to that. I don't even... oO
On Daily Mafia 'auto' is when you have so many town that you can no longer lose the game which is what I have.
And the 6 lynches thing is not an assumption it's basic math; if we wake up with 3 players alive we can lynch only one person (floor(3/2) = 1), if we wake with 5 alive we can lynch exactly 2 people (floor(5/2) = 2) and so on until you get to 13 (floor(13/2) = 6). If your still confused write down on a piece of paper how many players will be alive each day if we lynch once a day and mafia kills once a night until final 3 and then count how many lynches we get.
This is just how I like to think about the game, IMO the goal is not to lynch the scummiest person on a particular day but to use every resource available to us (including lynches) to kill the entire mafia team.
And feel free to ask any questions you have about the list (somthing which ruXxar has already taken the initiative on).
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I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post.
On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation!
At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia.
Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up.
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On July 25 2015 14:24 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! [indent ]At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up. Besides the bolded line, you are saying nothing new here. Was commenting about the "shape" of his posts in comparison to another game really something you wanted to share with us? Or are you trying to add more padding to your filter?
Ya there are certain people who have a unique visual style to their posts such as trfel and n00bKing because of the why they format it. For Barakos in particular every single one of his posts in NSMX was very block-y and rectangular but in this game only the post I quoted looked like that while the rest had the standard shape everyone else uses.
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@Ticktock this is why I think Flexes is town.
I'm going to bed now I'll be back in about 11 hours.
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On July 25 2015 17:14 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up. I see three different things wrong with this post from Sulfurus. And will award 5 Townie points to each player who notices one of them before I point it out. Two of them have already been pointed out, during discussion on Page 33. 1) I have never heard anyone talk about the "shape" of someone's posts as possibly being alignment-indicative. That's just not terminology that is used. Sulfurus later talks about Trfel and myself having distinctive formatting. That could make it difficult for us to Smurf or something, but did Trfel's distinctive formatting actually change, when his alignment changed? Sulfurus doesn't say that it did, so what is he talking about? Did my distinctive formatting actually change, when my alignment changed? Sulfurus doesn't say that it did (and he's never seen my alignment change) so what is he talking about? I don't see any indication that Barakos using the same "shape" in his posts would actually mean he's Town again, so there wouldn't be anything to get "very excited" about. All of this is dumb. For calling attention to it, I'll give Ticktock 5 Townie Points. 2) Sulfurus "starts with the read on Barakos" even though it was the one that people would be least interested to hear about, and then left for hours. And when he came back and posted again, he still didn't explain the controversial reads that people would actually be curious about. For calling attention to that, I'll give Breshke 5 Townie Points. 3) ???? Whoever points out this problem in Sulfurus' post, will get another 5 Townie Points. In Sulfurus' defense (yeah, I said it!) he didn't really make a full-on list post in either of his two recent scum games. He kinda/sorta gave reads, but there wasn't a list post like this one. Whereas there was, in Newbie X (where he was Town). On the other hand, considering that he was lynched EARLY in each of those scum games, you would think he would try to do SOMETHING to change up his scum game, even if it's just copycatting some of his behavior from Newbie X (since I've made it clear that I'm pretty familiar with all 3 of his previous games).
You and trfel were just examples of people with distinctive shapes it doesn't seem to be alignment for you and I don't know how trfel posts when's he's town (btw trfel's big 'case' posts are long and thin, and for you most of your posts are standard but some of them like the one I'm replying too are overly 'dense' for some reason).
Barakos is interesting because all of his posts when he was town had that rectangular shape I talked about but here only his first post was like that. I think it's because he was originally trying very hard to imitate his town game but couldn't keep it up in his later posts.
Now I'll go to bed.
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On July 25 2015 17:26 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 16:41 Sulfurus wrote:On July 25 2015 14:24 Tictock wrote:On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! [indent ]At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. Also please don't listen to his excuse about how that post was a 'trap' for NSMX people. He knows he messed up and he's trying to cover up. Besides the bolded line, you are saying nothing new here. Was commenting about the "shape" of his posts in comparison to another game really something you wanted to share with us? Or are you trying to add more padding to your filter? Ya there are certain people who have a unique visual style to their posts such as trfel and n00bKing because of the why they format it. For Barakos in particular every single one of his posts in NSMX was very block-y and rectangular but in this game only the post I quoted looked like that while the rest had the standard shape everyone else uses. Like, everything you say here is pointless, false, or BOTH. Would it help if I quoted FIFTY posts from Barakos in Newbie X that are neither block-y nor rectangular? Because they are there. And it also isn't true that in this game, the only post from him that is block-y and rectangular is the one you quoted. Posts 12 and 13 in his filter from this game use the formatting you're talking about, even though they were both after the post that you quoted. He ends a sentence, starts a new line, but does not put in a line break to start a new paragraph. Just as was often (but not always) seen in his posts in Newbie X, and that's what gives some of his posts that distinctive layout. So again, even if what you were saying was true, I don't think it would matter. But it's not true. There are some good reasons to be suspicious of Barakos. This crap about the shape of his posts AIN'T those good reasons. So I understand why people are saying that it looks like you might be reaching for new reasons to sheep thread sentiment, instead of just sheeping the reasons that were already given.
This one too. It's also dense.
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On July 25 2015 21:18 disformation wrote:okay phone post time. lemme throw out some thoughts. Didn't like how Sulfurus only gave 1/3 reads I asked him about. Liked TT being suspicious of Sulfurus. Though I am not sure what I my conclusion on Sulfurus is. Def. want him to come back and post more. such Rayn. very town. much wow. Town lean on Damdred. Will reread him and post proper reasons when I am at home. Need to look st Rels filter. While I didn't mind NocturneMages questions in the beginning I think it is time for him to come back here and at least try to put out some reads. also: a lot of ppl haven't voted yet, right? should get to that. 
Did you notice our reads are similar, or does that not change anything?
On July 25 2015 21:31 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 08:43 Sulfurus wrote:On July 25 2015 07:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 07:52 Sulfurus wrote:I believe I have 'auto' now since in a 13 player game we get 6 lynches (not counting a mafa nk + vigi) and I found at least 7 town including myself. Here are the towns in order of approximate townyness Towns- raynpelikoneet
- Damdred
- Flexes
- Breshke
- ruXxar
- rels
And ofcourse lynches in order of aproximate scumyness Lynches- Barakos
- MoosyDoosy
- n00bKing
- NocturneMage
- TickTock
- disformation
I apologize to disformation for putting your name on the list; I think your probably town but I needed a sixth name. Why is flexes more town than disformation?!! Just look at this post On July 24 2015 10:11 Flexes wrote:
hi everybody.
i'm new so i really don't know what to say and what conclusions to draw.
i don't know why ruxxor is so defensive about his "posting style" when the accusation against him is so baseless.
i still think you cannot tell either way though.
moosydoosy being the first one to point fingers to gain information gives him a slight townlean for me. He literally sets himself up to not have to give any reads but gives reads anyways as a new player who, as mafia, has every reason to stay as silent as possible while getting used to the thread and once he did get comfortable he posted this gem On July 25 2015 05:39 Flexes wrote:
i am here, but i don't wanna post stupid shit that clutters up the thread.
i'm writing up my thoughts on all players right now and will post my reads when finished. Instead of acting out of paranoia of getting scum read he is going out of his way to make his posts as high quality as possible. Now compare this with the way Nocturne has been playing... ??? I asked why he was more town than disformation, not nocturne.
Because I don't have an explicit reason for townreading disformation it was an instinctual read; which makes it really easy for mafia!disformation to trick me.
I don't understand why people want to lynch Flexes he is pretty much lock town for me.
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There seems to be a misconception among some players that n00bKing is somehow town which needs to be cleared up.
First of all looking at the votes n00bKing was the second to last player to vote on Barakos, he even admits in the same post that he would rather have lynched Rels today. In fact I kinda want to believe that if n00b was town and he actually thought Rels was scum he would've just kept his on him since Barakos was already going to be lynched, but that's probably too far of a reach.
I think the reason people are town reading him is because they read a lot of 'anger' in his tone when he was pushing on Rels (cause anger = town apparently) but that isn't how town!n00b is. Just look at the one post he wrote that is actually genuine; notice how he doesn't have the same harshness as when he speaks Rels or the whishy-washyness he has when speaking of Barakos.
And some particular posts that I think are quite damning
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On July 26 2015 11:36 ruXxar wrote:
I don't really know how to read sulfurus.
Like, he's playing completely different from my last game with him, which is why I'm hesistant to scum-read him but everything he says is just weird.
His post that supposedly shows how n00bking is scum is just so bad on so many levels I don't even know how it's supposed to convince anyone.
You always call my posts bad. I'm supporting your reads and you're still calling it bad.
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I did NOT get roleblocked last night.
And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check.
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On July 27 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 10:37 Sulfurus wrote:
I did NOT get roleblocked last night.
And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check. Who do you think are the last two mafia?
My reads are pretty much the same as I listed them here.
Now that Barakos is dead Moosy is next up.
##Vote: MoosyDoosy
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On July 28 2015 04:46 ruXxar wrote:
His read on flexes was really weird, he got the totally opposite reaction of what I had, I thought flexes posts were slightly scummy or NAI at best, yet he called him super town for it.
It takes a lurker to read a lurker.
But seriously there is a really deep bias among some people in this game that post count is proportional to townyness, maybe for some people, but if you actually look at flexes filter with the knowledge that something distracted him from the game (kinda why he got replaced) then it makes more sense why he is towny.
On July 28 2015 04:46 ruXxar wrote:
I think he's just overexcited.
He's been watching a lot of daily mafia and thinks he's acquired tremendous scum hunting abilities.
Wanted to seem cool by spouting some DM terminology.
I understand that, I've been there too.
tru tho
My auto list is legit though; someone asked (TickTock?) if I will ever reconsider it and the answer is I think about how I could change it whenever I read the game but it's pretty set in stone except maybe I would rather lynch breshke over disformation but it could go either way.
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Someone asked a really longtime ago (sorry) why I townread Damdred the initial read was because of this post; he pretty much had the same reaction Barakos's as I and everything he's written since has either been in agreement with my reads or at least had good logic.
This Post:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny.
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