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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 18:55 GMT
#441
Not really. I just brought up my a-game in XXX because of the playerbase.
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 18:55 GMT
#442
On July 25 2015 03:54 Tictock wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen ...

We have hardly used up even half our day! There is still yet some time to play...

So much needless aggression, you realize you are more likely to shove a brother than an enemy?

You all scream for a feast for the mind, yet have spent most of your time fighting over scraps...


zzzz, cut the crapperonies.
GIve us some reads in plain text.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 18:55 GMT
#443
Tictock reads, now.
In understandable format.

Do you understand you are doing no good atm in case you are town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 18:57 GMT
#444
ruXxar do you believe i am:
1) right in that Barakos is mafia
2) wrong on Barakos being mafia
3) mafia pushing a townie
4) mafia bussing

with reasoning please
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n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 24 2015 18:58 GMT
#445
On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:
This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you.

RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer.

ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game.

Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host.

So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much.

All of this seems terrible.

1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there?

2) As has been mentioned, it doesn't make any sense to say that these three things add up to a "prepared post" when two of them are reactions to things that happened after the game began. So you changed gears and said that by "prepared post" you mean he thought about it a lot before posting, rather than meaning he prepared it before the game began. That explanation is hard to believe from you, because that's NOT how the term "prepared post" is used. It looks like you're changing your story after it's been pointed out that what you said can't be true.

3) Even if you DID mean "thought about it a lot before posting" from the get-go, how does it take a lot of thought to make either the second or third comments? Why are those not immediate off-the-cuff remarks, where he just put his thoughts to the page as soon as he had them?
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 24 2015 18:59 GMT
#446
On July 25 2015 03:55 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 03:54 Tictock wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen ...

We have hardly used up even half our day! There is still yet some time to play...

So much needless aggression, you realize you are more likely to shove a brother than an enemy?

You all scream for a feast for the mind, yet have spent most of your time fighting over scraps...


zzzz, cut the crapperonies.
GIve us some reads in plain text.


Ironic...

I will in due time.
I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 19:01 GMT
#447
n00bKing i am pretty sure i misunderstand what he means.
But let's hear an answer from himself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 19:01 GMT
#448
On July 25 2015 03:59 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 03:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 25 2015 03:54 Tictock wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen ...

We have hardly used up even half our day! There is still yet some time to play...

So much needless aggression, you realize you are more likely to shove a brother than an enemy?

You all scream for a feast for the mind, yet have spent most of your time fighting over scraps...


zzzz, cut the crapperonies.
GIve us some reads in plain text.


Ironic...

I will in due time.

no, you are here now so do it now please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 19:03 GMT
#449
There is absolutely no reason to withhold basic information like reads here Tictock.
You want to be (1) read as town so you have the credibility to (2) convince people into lynching mafia if you are town.

What you are doing is counter-productive at best.
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 19:04 GMT
#450
On July 25 2015 03:59 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 03:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 25 2015 03:54 Tictock wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen ...

We have hardly used up even half our day! There is still yet some time to play...

So much needless aggression, you realize you are more likely to shove a brother than an enemy?

You all scream for a feast for the mind, yet have spent most of your time fighting over scraps...


zzzz, cut the crapperonies.
GIve us some reads in plain text.


Ironic...

I will in due time.


Aww, I did not want to ruin your RP, however tarot cards don't mean anything anyway if you just draw the cards at random.
If you actually picked the cards on your own and gave an explanation for what they meant I would be fine with it.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 24 2015 19:06 GMT
#451
On July 25 2015 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 03:23 disformation wrote:
On July 25 2015 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
His post was scummy because he is scum.


You sound pretty confident/convinced. Let me look at his filter for a moment.

you don't even need to.
you jsut need to look at the fact he SHOULD expect a reaction from me to his "reaction test".
Yet he talks nothing about me after i VOTE for him.

Like this is pretty straightforward.


Hmm.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.

You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.

My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.


Fair enough.
Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs*
Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess.

So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.-


Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day...

And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.-

Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon...

Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him.

Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...

Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me.

Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation!

Says he dislikes ruxXar's style this game, but won't judge based on this style.
But dislikes me for liking ruxXar's style?
Super town read on n00bKing for something easy to point out. Buddying?

Rels calls him out on some scummy things. rayn puts his vote on him.
barakos is like "Haha reaction test". Calls Rels town and picks me as scum. Hm... actually I think he is misrepresenting me. I never said I would be looking for meta hints in general. I said I would be using some games I was shadowing ppl in to look for meta hints on just ruxXar and Damdred. Never mentioned any other games or meta hints in general. He also calls out my waffling in NSM X. Maybe he sees me as an easy misslynch? Or as an easy distraction?
His conclusion is that I am scum. Seems even like a pretty strong read. But he doesn't vote for me? Waiting to see if he can get this wagon going?

Then he picks out some stuff from NocturneMage ( http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=13#259 ), who as a first timer could be an easy target as well, but doesn't even reach a conclusion. He likes the suspicion?
On July 24 2015 19:03 Barakos wrote:
[...]To me this looks like scum trying to find angles for a misslynch.

So while I don't like your case that much, I like the suspicion about NocturneMage.

Like is NocturneMage scum or not?

Yeah... overall I get the impression of scum testing the waters and/or trying to get rid of unwanted attention.
##vote Barakos
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 19:15 GMT
#452
On July 25 2015 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruXxar do you believe i am:
1) right in that Barakos is mafia
2) wrong on Barakos being mafia
3) mafia pushing a townie
4) mafia bussing

with reasoning please


Reasonings:

100% mafia doesn't bus this early on a newbie for his first reads post.
Dumbest play of the year if you are mafia.

I didnt like barakos post at all. His reads were all wrong.
I don't think he's mafia though.

He linked his own games and exposed his meta for all to see.
Mafia doesn't do that, they want to hide information about themselves, especially newbies.

I go for option #2.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 24 2015 19:16 GMT
#453
On July 24 2015 18:29 Rels wrote:
If you played or read Newbie X, I would like to have your thoughts on Barakos' filter compared to Newbie X.

I read Newbie X. At the time you made this post, Barakos didn't hardly HAVE a filter yet. I have read his filter just now, and will comment on it more later, though it continues to be very short.

His filter from Newbie X was not short, but I also found his play in Newbie X to be completely unmemorable. He was one of only 2 players in that game that were basically null for me the entire way. sicklucker, ninjabunnies, those were players who made an impression. Plotspot made an impression. Ticktock's ludicrous tunnel of a very obviously Town Plotspot made an impression. I remember Breshke being the guy who was always saying things that didn't match my thoughts, but that seemed very Townie. While you (Rels) were the guy who was always saying things that WERE exactly my own thoughts. But Barakos was just...around. He was "also in that game" is what I remember about him.

Looking at that filter now, he is sometimes authoritative, and likes to redirect discussion in the places he wants it to go. One big difference between that game and this one is that he came right out of the gate with a vote in that game, whereas he still has yet to vote in this game. His Town game from Newbie X looks fairly easy to replicate as Scum (which is probably why I never had a good townread on him in that game) but although it won't mean much if he DOES replicate it, it may mean something if he continues to NOT replicate it.
On July 24 2015 18:29 Rels wrote:
And whoever you are, I would like to have your thoughts about my post on NocturneMage.

Way ahead of you.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 19:18 GMT
#454
On July 24 2015 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah breshke... i forgot about breshke.
FYI i wanna hear moose answer damdred before elaborating further.


Rayn give me juicy info desu.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 24 2015 19:23 GMT
#455
On July 24 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 21:45 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 21:09 Rels wrote:
On July 24 2015 18:59 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 18:55 Rels wrote:
@ruxxar

On July 24 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:
On July 24 2015 17:58 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:
[quote]

Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy.

[quote]

Do I smell a thinly veiled threat?

Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example.

My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story.
[...]
The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor.

Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (=


'tis a good lesson for all who want to be town-read, town and mafia alike.

Sure. (=

Was the yakura claim only for rayn and I ?



It is for all who know the inside joke.
In particular I want to tell mafia that I am an easy lynch, leave me alive and try to push me.
Give me action, I want to see your teeth.

OK ruxxar. So this line:

On July 24 2015 07:16 ruXxar wrote:
Did I mention I am yakuza guys.


has two purposes:
- joke for those who knows it
- reaction test for mafia

Am I correct ?

And is this other line from the same post also an inside joke I'm not part of ?

On July 24 2015 07:16 ruXxar wrote:
In b4 finnski claims cop.






Indeed, it's from another voice mafia game.

OK that makes little sense to me that you have two separates explanations for a sentence containing 7 words.

I think I may be able to clear up this misunderstanding between Rels and ruXxar. When ruXxar says "it's from another voice mafia game" he could be talking about the "finnski claims cop" line, instead of still talking about the Yakuza claim.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 24 2015 19:25 GMT
#456
On July 25 2015 03:24 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 02:49 disformation wrote:
On July 24 2015 19:41 Tictock wrote:
Drew a few cards for some of ya. I would appreciate it if you could take a look at your card and give me your impression of it.

People chosen by some means.

n00b - 4 of Wands - Completion
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


rayn - 4 of Cups - Luxury
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Moosy - Knight of Swords
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


ruXx - Ace of Disks
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Noc -7 of Wands - Valor
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Flex - Kight of Cups
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hmmm... I know these cards have meanings. Do you have any interpretation of these? Can you link these interpretations to their posts so far?
Can I has a card, too?
+ Show Spoiler +
In before The Hanged Man (XII)


Dis you need to roll something other than town, just for varieties sake.

Still nice to see you out of the shadows ^.^

Since you asked... and yes Hanged Man would be ironic...
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This card can be read either as a symbol of a new beginning or as a strong read into a persons character (strong because it is a powerful card).

Some interesting lines I came across that describe the personality portrayed by the Princess of Disks
a quiet, reserved person - sometimes shy

can easily be a little too dependent from outside influences but nevertheless being unable to really adapt to others.

practical and capable, though rarely seeking the limelight

deals badly with conflict


Thanks.
The lines are kinda fitting. Especially the 1st,3rd and 4th. Not too sure about the 2nd.

On July 25 2015 04:16 n00bKing wrote:
[...]
His filter from Newbie X was not short, but I also found his play in Newbie X to be completely unmemorable. He was one of only 2 players in that game that were basically null for me the entire way.[...]


Well. Makes sense. I couldn't remember much from him either...
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 24 2015 19:25 GMT
#457
On July 25 2015 04:23 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:
On July 24 2015 21:45 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 21:09 Rels wrote:
On July 24 2015 18:59 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 18:55 Rels wrote:
@ruxxar

On July 24 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:
On July 24 2015 17:58 ruXxar wrote:
On July 24 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:
On July 24 2015 08:53 ruXxar wrote:
[quote]
My himalaya game taught me the importance of consistency, direction, sticking to your story.
[...]
The moment you flip flop your town cred sinks to the ocean floor.

Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (=


'tis a good lesson for all who want to be town-read, town and mafia alike.

Sure. (=

Was the yakura claim only for rayn and I ?



It is for all who know the inside joke.
In particular I want to tell mafia that I am an easy lynch, leave me alive and try to push me.
Give me action, I want to see your teeth.

OK ruxxar. So this line:

On July 24 2015 07:16 ruXxar wrote:
Did I mention I am yakuza guys.


has two purposes:
- joke for those who knows it
- reaction test for mafia

Am I correct ?

And is this other line from the same post also an inside joke I'm not part of ?

On July 24 2015 07:16 ruXxar wrote:
In b4 finnski claims cop.






Indeed, it's from another voice mafia game.

OK that makes little sense to me that you have two separates explanations for a sentence containing 7 words.

I think I may be able to clear up this misunderstanding between Rels and ruXxar. When ruXxar says "it's from another voice mafia game" he could be talking about the "finnski claims cop" line, instead of still talking about the Yakuza claim.


What's your opinion on moosy?
What do you think about my evaluation of you being more warm and jokey than usual?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 24 2015 19:32 GMT
#458
On July 24 2015 19:41 Tictock wrote:
Drew a few cards for some of ya. I would appreciate it if you could take a look at your card and give me your impression of it.

NO.
disformation wrote:
Hmmm... I know these cards have meanings. Do you have any interpretation of these? Can you link these interpretations to their posts so far?
Can I has a card, too?

Do NOT do this. If Ticktock is clogging up the thread with that useless filler, why would you engage him about it? Make him play the game for real, as you see other players demanding him to.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 19:32 GMT
#459
On July 25 2015 04:15 ruXxar wrote:
He linked his own games and exposed his meta for all to see.
Mafia doesn't do that, they want to hide information about themselves, especially newbies.

First sentence: What were his alignments in those games?
Second: Why not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2015 19:33 GMT
#460
On July 25 2015 04:18 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah breshke... i forgot about breshke.
FYI i wanna hear moose answer damdred before elaborating further.


Rayn give me juicy info desu.

I don't care about Breshke atm.
I care about Barakos.
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