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On July 25 2015 03:58 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:
This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you.
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host.
So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. All of this seems terrible. 1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there? 2) As has been mentioned, it doesn't make any sense to say that these three things add up to a "prepared post" when two of them are reactions to things that happened after the game began. So you changed gears and said that by "prepared post" you mean he thought about it a lot before posting, rather than meaning he prepared it before the game began. That explanation is hard to believe from you, because that's NOT how the term "prepared post" is used. It looks like you're changing your story after it's been pointed out that what you said can't be true. 3) Even if you DID mean "thought about it a lot before posting" from the get-go, how does it take a lot of thought to make either the second or third comments? Why are those not immediate off-the-cuff remarks, where he just put his thoughts to the page as soon as he had them?
Mate you can disagree with my post but the way you attack me is uncalled for.
Point 1 is useless.
Point 2 in particular is a whole lot of nothing, i used prepared post to mean he prepared his post before posting it.
Point 3 should have been the only content of your post. I can understand why you think its not scum indicative when I do.
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On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia. My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that. The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR" I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open?
Because ruXxar does stuff that he shouldn't. Get used to that. In any case, the response to Breshke that you just mentioned shows that ruXxar DID give a read on me. Which seems to wreck the rest of your post. Are there any other reasons why you would scumlean ruXxar?
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On July 25 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:15 ruXxar wrote:
He linked his own games and exposed his meta for all to see.
Mafia doesn't do that, they want to hide information about themselves, especially newbies.
First sentence: What were his alignments in those games? Second: Why not?
He was town in both.
? The less attention they bring to evidence that show discrepancies between their current play as mafia and their play as town the better.
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Most of my reads will have to come later tonight when I have decent time, besides much like reading tarot reading people can often be an interesting battle of interpretations. This causes the read to change and flow as new elements are discovered.
For now...
On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Alright here I go. Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:08 NocturneMage wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you. RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer. ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game. Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host. So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI. + Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone. He seems relieved to be town, assuming he's telling the truth, though the poetry makes me think he's more high than he is mafia. Do you think he's mafia? On July 24 2015 07:27 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die. Is that alignment indicative for ruXxar? I'm guessing it is if that was a scum game of his? On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. On July 24 2015 07:39 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. Tell me of your experience with real life mafia. My curiosity is peaked. I played it a lot at parties in uni and in grad school. It was the party game of party games. I also have played a board game called Resistance which is somewhat similar except people don't die but you also do figure out if people are lying or not and try to include them on your team or not and then pass or fail the expedition party. What is your experience with mafia or is forums just it? On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? So, ##Vote NocturneMage@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread.
I find it very interesting that Rels decided to dedicate his entire opening to attack another players opening.
The entire time I was reading his idea about Noc giving us a forced opening post I'm thinking "what a forced read on someone this is"
Rels even mentions
Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.
But why does that not apply to his opening post as well?
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On July 25 2015 04:37 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 04:15 ruXxar wrote:
He linked his own games and exposed his meta for all to see.
Mafia doesn't do that, they want to hide information about themselves, especially newbies.
First sentence: What were his alignments in those games? Second: Why not? He was town in both. ? The less attention they bring to evidence that show discrepancies between their current play as mafia and their play as town the better.
So, how do you compare his play this game to his mafia play?
Why again it's a "thing mafia would never say"?
You have nothing to actually compare. You can just say "same/different".
And it doesn't mean anything as you can't say "different as in way of _______ from his towngames compared to his scumgames (or vice versa)".
moot argument.
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On July 25 2015 04:38 Tictock wrote:Most of my reads will have to come later tonight when I have decent time, besides much like reading tarot reading people can often be an interesting battle of interpretations. This causes the read to change and flow as new elements are discovered. For now... Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Alright here I go. On July 24 2015 07:08 NocturneMage wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you. RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer. ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game. Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host. So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI. + Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone. He seems relieved to be town, assuming he's telling the truth, though the poetry makes me think he's more high than he is mafia. Do you think he's mafia? On July 24 2015 07:27 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die. Is that alignment indicative for ruXxar? I'm guessing it is if that was a scum game of his? On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. On July 24 2015 07:39 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. Tell me of your experience with real life mafia. My curiosity is peaked. I played it a lot at parties in uni and in grad school. It was the party game of party games. I also have played a board game called Resistance which is somewhat similar except people don't die but you also do figure out if people are lying or not and try to include them on your team or not and then pass or fail the expedition party. What is your experience with mafia or is forums just it? On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? So, ##Vote NocturneMage@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread. I find it very interesting that Rels decided to dedicate his entire opening to attack another players opening. The entire time I was reading his idea about Noc giving us a forced opening post I'm thinking "what a forced read on someone this is" Rels even mentions Show nested quote +
Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.
But why does that not apply to his opening post as well?
so is NocturneMage scummy or not?
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On July 25 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 04:15 ruXxar wrote:
He linked his own games and exposed his meta for all to see.
Mafia doesn't do that, they want to hide information about themselves, especially newbies.
First sentence: What were his alignments in those games? Second: Why not? He was town in both. ? The less attention they bring to evidence that show discrepancies between their current play as mafia and their play as town the better. So, how do you compare his play this game to his mafia play? Why again it's a "thing mafia would never say"? You have nothing to actually compare. You can just say "same/different". And it doesn't mean anything as you can't say "different as in way of _______ from his towngames compared to his scumgames (or vice versa)". moot argument.
zzz i hate comparing meta so I'm not going to do it.
It's the action itself that is towny, he opens himself to scrutiny.
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On July 25 2015 04:36 Rels wrote:
1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there?
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Point 1 is useless.
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No it isn't. How do you actually get that impression?
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On July 25 2015 04:42 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 04:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 04:15 ruXxar wrote:
He linked his own games and exposed his meta for all to see.
Mafia doesn't do that, they want to hide information about themselves, especially newbies.
First sentence: What were his alignments in those games? Second: Why not? He was town in both. ? The less attention they bring to evidence that show discrepancies between their current play as mafia and their play as town the better. So, how do you compare his play this game to his mafia play? Why again it's a "thing mafia would never say"? You have nothing to actually compare. You can just say "same/different". And it doesn't mean anything as you can't say "different as in way of _______ from his towngames compared to his scumgames (or vice versa)". moot argument. zzz i hate comparing meta so I'm not going to do it. It's the action itself that is towny, he opens himself to scrutiny.
i disagree. 
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On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:
n00bking in his natural incarnation is a shiny dodacahedron.
Warmth, amicable talk and jesterly gestures is not his pure town suit.
What exactly has changed is yet unbeknownst to me. Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive.
This post from me will probably not be productive. But I don't think I can keep myself from making it.
First off, ruXxar comparing me to a "shiny dodacahedron" almost makes everything else he said in his annoying posting style WORTH it. Almost.
Second, I have to wonder if your post to him is just copied and pasted from things I said to you in Newbie XII, when you were being equally useful. My efforts to make you wake up and start participating in the game took quite a while to have any effect.
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On July 25 2015 04:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 03:58 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer.
1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there? Point 1 is useless.
No it isn't. Where do you actually get this?
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On July 25 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:36 Rels wrote:
1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there?
Point 1 is useless. No it isn't. How do you actually get that impression?
I used vt to say townie.
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On July 25 2015 04:04 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 03:59 Tictock wrote:On July 25 2015 03:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 03:54 Tictock wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen ...
We have hardly used up even half our day! There is still yet some time to play...
So much needless aggression, you realize you are more likely to shove a brother than an enemy?
You all scream for a feast for the mind, yet have spent most of your time fighting over scraps... zzzz, cut the crapperonies. GIve us some reads in plain text. Ironic... I will in due time. Aww, I did not want to ruin your RP, however tarot cards don't mean anything anyway if you just draw the cards at random. If you actually picked the cards on your own and gave an explanation for what they meant I would be fine with it.
The point of tarot is not always what the card "means" but rather what the card "implies". The difference is that one is a wrote definition whereas the other is a subjective interpretation.
In other words, we can all use google to see what the card "means" but what I was interested was in what the card implies to you. Reactions to me asking you to read the card instead of the card itself are also valid ^.^
On July 25 2015 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is absolutely no reason to withhold basic information like reads here Tictock.
You want to be (1) read as town so you have the credibility to (2) convince people into lynching mafia if you are town.
What you are doing is counter-productive at best.
Possible.
I realize full well what I am doing.
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On July 24 2015 23:42 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thank you. Mafia reads and neutral reads? Anyone in particular you'd like to point out? Damdred: - don't like opening post, forced. - tone read on me, same read he had last game when he was mafia, too certain.
...weren't you scum in that game too, though? If you're Town this game, then being suspicious of him because he reads you the same way he did when you were both scum is...curious.
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On July 25 2015 04:46 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:04 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 03:59 Tictock wrote:On July 25 2015 03:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 25 2015 03:54 Tictock wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen ...
We have hardly used up even half our day! There is still yet some time to play...
So much needless aggression, you realize you are more likely to shove a brother than an enemy?
You all scream for a feast for the mind, yet have spent most of your time fighting over scraps... zzzz, cut the crapperonies. GIve us some reads in plain text. Ironic... I will in due time. Aww, I did not want to ruin your RP, however tarot cards don't mean anything anyway if you just draw the cards at random. If you actually picked the cards on your own and gave an explanation for what they meant I would be fine with it. The point of tarot is not always what the card "means" but rather what the card "implies". The difference is that one is a wrote definition whereas the other is a subjective interpretation. In other words, we can all use google to see what the card "means" but what I was interested was in what the card implies to you. Reactions to me asking you to read the card instead of the card itself are also valid ^.^ Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is absolutely no reason to withhold basic information like reads here Tictock.
You want to be (1) read as town so you have the credibility to (2) convince people into lynching mafia if you are town.
What you are doing is counter-productive at best. Possible. I realize full well what I am doing.
I don't think you do.
Unless you are mafia.
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On July 25 2015 04:38 Tictock wrote:Most of my reads will have to come later tonight when I have decent time, besides much like reading tarot reading people can often be an interesting battle of interpretations. This causes the read to change and flow as new elements are discovered. For now... Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Alright here I go. On July 24 2015 07:08 NocturneMage wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet.
ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though.
Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you. RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer. ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game. Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host. So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much. Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI. + Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 07:22 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ruXxar stop speaking like that. You're not speaking honestly you're flavoring your tone and what we need is your regular tone. He seems relieved to be town, assuming he's telling the truth, though the poetry makes me think he's more high than he is mafia. Do you think he's mafia? On July 24 2015 07:27 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die. Is that alignment indicative for ruXxar? I'm guessing it is if that was a scum game of his? On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. On July 24 2015 07:39 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside. Tell me of your experience with real life mafia. My curiosity is peaked. I played it a lot at parties in uni and in grad school. It was the party game of party games. I also have played a board game called Resistance which is somewhat similar except people don't die but you also do figure out if people are lying or not and try to include them on your team or not and then pass or fail the expedition party. What is your experience with mafia or is forums just it? On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? So, ##Vote NocturneMage@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread. I find it very interesting that Rels decided to dedicate his entire opening to attack another players opening. The entire time I was reading his idea about Noc giving us a forced opening post I'm thinking "what a forced read on someone this is" Rels even mentions Show nested quote +
Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.
But why does that not apply to his opening post as well?
So are you reaching a conclusion, or asking a question ?
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On July 25 2015 04:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 04:36 Rels wrote:
1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there?
Point 1 is useless. No it isn't. How do you actually get that impression? I used vt to say townie.
why would you do that, they are definitely a different thing.
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n00bKing totes townpile (is better than townpile).
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Sorry to give so short answers but I'm with friends and I just check this topic from my phone when I can. I'll reread all tomorrow.
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On July 25 2015 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 04:45 Rels wrote:On July 25 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 04:36 Rels wrote:
1) Where are you getting the idea that there is a VT claim in there?
Point 1 is useless. No it isn't. How do you actually get that impression? I used vt to say townie. why would you do that, they are definitely a different thing.
I got nothing.
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