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aNGryaRchon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States438 Posts
July 30 2013 02:21 GMT
#1
Plexa Administrator July 30 2013 11:10. Gift TL+ PM Profile Blog Quote #
OP had potential, but then went all religion vs atheism.


On this note, improving on OP. No religion thread please.


In the history of humanity, there are quite a few "paradigm shifts" that totally changed the course of history, a proverbial point of no return where what once was will never be again. In most cases, there was no record of such events, and the general psychological and mental state of people who experienced such shifts in history is forever lost to us.

First, let us start with the agricultural revolution. From hunter gatherers, we are told that we learned or discovered agriculture, thereby changing our behaviour, our physique, our diet, our social dynamics, almost everything. It is easy to think of agriculture as merely a change in the way we get food, but in fact it changed everything. Unfortunately, since this happened so long ago, in a time when homo sapiens was not even into writing, there are no records how the people think about this change.

Second, the industrial revolution. Fortunately this one, humanity was already fully literate and eloquent as there are a lot of records already about humanity's experience of this event. From the literature of the Victorian writers like Dickens we learn of the plight of London under the industrial revolution. From the Romanticist like Blake we learn than it was not all that glorious as many might think. From accounts of industrialists, engineers, pioneers, technocrats, historians we know the detail of how we humans experienced it.

Today, there is a great feeling, a looming specter, that we are again about to undergo a paradigm shift unlike any before. With the internet where information is accessible to all, culture and technologies are shared instantaneously, it is easy to compare cultures and share knowledge.

What do you think will be the next big paradigm shift? Some say it is in energy. Others in nanotechnology. Some in neurobiology. Some in the complete eradication of racial prejudices. And still others in culture. What is your opinion on this TL?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 03:00:02
July 30 2013 02:59 GMT
#2
Colonization of Space. As we will have more than one world to care for but also ones that we have to build from the ground up and it will be recorded in real time. After a while there could prejudices from people who were born and grew up on Mars, others who think higher of themselves for being on the "home" planet. Then we could very well see past incidents happen all over again, revolutions, nationalism just involving more than one planet than say continents.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 30 2013 03:03 GMT
#3
human vs synthetic.

it has been building up for years with the industrial revolution, but i feel its getting to be more and more a reality.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 30 2013 03:10 GMT
#4
could be a worldwide police state where a select few have nearly absolute power over all

i sure hope not though
Evacipate
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada6 Posts
July 30 2013 03:14 GMT
#5
The shift from United States to China for the throne of world hegemony.
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Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
July 30 2013 03:14 GMT
#6
FTL
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actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
July 30 2013 03:15 GMT
#7
On July 30 2013 12:14 Pseudoku wrote:
FTL


Faster than light is probably not a game that will cause a shift of this magnitude. Unless of course you mean we find out how to go FTL.
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DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
July 30 2013 03:20 GMT
#8
On July 30 2013 12:03 dAPhREAk wrote:
human vs synthetic.

it has been building up for years with the industrial revolution, but i feel its getting to be more and more a reality.

I have to agree with this. I see "modified" humans along the lines of Deus Ex being a reality in the near future, bringing the what is "human" question to bear. Will be interesting to see all the effects of this across competitions, and workplaces.
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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 30 2013 03:29 GMT
#9
Wearable technology will change how we live more than smartphones do. Improved voice control software will integrate us completely with technology and the internet, and we will rely on technology far more than even now.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 30 2013 03:31 GMT
#10
On July 30 2013 12:10 travis wrote:
could be a worldwide police state where a select few have nearly absolute power over all

i sure hope not though

If this were to happen, you wouldn't know about it. For all we know, it could already be true.
stroggozzz
Profile Joined July 2013
New Zealand81 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 03:54:09
July 30 2013 03:37 GMT
#11
there will be nothing you can hide from the rich and powerful in the future. Once google glass goes up, that's it. All the information in the world is recorded through the eyes of people, and anyone that shows any semblance of critique, independent thought will be filtered out of society at a very early age.

I expect philosophy and science and art to be heavily pressured if people allow corporations to be run the same way they are run now, as totalitarian structures.

global warming will turn half the planet into a desert. People will be able to communicate through thoughts, lots of cool new technology will be available. propaganda will become more effective as the human population is atomized through distractions like internet, augmented reality and social bonds grow weaker.

There will be weapons that will threaten to destroy the world even more so than nukes.

people will be able to augment themselves like off deus ex

and strange sex lives will become normal.

the human brain will be psychologically affected by new technologies and a much more image based world, and become used to instant gratification. they will all be addicts.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 30 2013 03:49 GMT
#12
Immortality a la Pandora's star. The rich will live forever getting richer and richer when the poor will just live once.
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Mezmeranto
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden22 Posts
July 30 2013 04:06 GMT
#13
I think the growth of the internet in the last decade will be seen as a paradigm shift, not only for the spread of information but mostly for the boundaries of who you can exchange information with is kind of torn down. The start of a more homogeneous culture all around the world.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26341 Posts
July 30 2013 04:17 GMT
#14
On July 30 2013 12:14 Evacipate wrote:
The shift from United States to China for the throne of world hegemony.

Not a chance imo. This is so frequently posited, but I just don't see it happening. It has a massive impact in terms of commerce and economic clout, but it's cultural influence is thus negligible when you compare it to the States in the 20th century.

Hm, I see the increasing success of technology and products like social networking integration continuing as they are. I'm not overly happy about it, so much inane shit, pooling into everything.
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
July 30 2013 04:29 GMT
#15
A Butlerian jihad at some point against certain kinds of technological progress. Well not a war but eventually things will change too fast and lots of people will get riled up pretty good about it.

I don't think it would be a paradigm shift though now that I took a minute to think about it. Half the posts in this thread are not about things that would be paradigm shifts

The extension of human life by decades is more likely than not less than a hundred years away and will have a huge impact on society and human existence in general. And it's more likely to happen than anything that's been mentioned so far.

The technical capability, in the West, to switch to a hydrogen economy is probably not more than a hundred years off either, probably a lot sooner than that. That has the potential to be a very big thing.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26341 Posts
July 30 2013 04:35 GMT
#16
On July 30 2013 13:29 DeepElemBlues wrote:
A Butlerian jihad at some point against certain kinds of technological progress. Well not a war but eventually things will change too fast and lots of people will get riled up pretty good about it.

I don't think it would be a paradigm shift though now that I took a minute to think about it. Half the posts in this thread are not about things that would be paradigm shifts

The extension of human life by decades is more likely than not less than a hundred years away and will have a huge impact on society and human existence in general. And it's more likely to happen than anything that's been mentioned so far.

The technical capability, in the West, to switch to a hydrogen economy is probably not more than a hundred years off either, probably a lot sooner than that. That has the potential to be a very big thing.

I can see what you mean with the point one. With all this encroachment of social networking, targetting advertisements and the augmented reality glasses, I for one shall not be part of it much longer. I shall retreat to the Alaskan wilderness, form a society called 'The Pure' who eschew such things and live a peaceful life, away from Farmville.

I'm not so sure actually about the extension of human life being close. Indeed, the 80+ tend to be infirm and squishy as it is, I don't see how you can push further along that path really. The next step will probably be some kind of way to not necessarily extend our lifespan, but increase the quality of what we already have through vat-grown organs and that kind of thing.

I DO see a bombshell hitting when the effects of the older, economically unproductive segment of society being an increasingly large proportion of the population actually start to hit.

This will only come with global economic equalisation of some kind, but it'll happen eventual. At present, migrant workers can take up the slack in the developing world, but if their native countries give them sufficient economic opportunity that is a crutch that will be taken away.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 04:45:36
July 30 2013 04:44 GMT
#17
Most likely severe global warming taking place in the next century or so. If that doesn't happen, though, it's probably going to be something caused by advances in internet and communications technology. PRISM was only the beginning of something much bigger, methinks.
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tl2212
Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 04:52:36
July 30 2013 04:49 GMT
#18
I think a "humanitarian" movement will finally gain enough popularity and organization to topple the pyramid power structure that currently governs the world, putting 1% in charge of everything to reap all the wealth and prosperity from the global economy while the rest of the world is barely above poverty. I think the world is moving more towards everyone being middle class, because that in itself could spur a lot of growth and development in our societies. In short i'm talking about the cultural singularity. I think it's a very real thing and the bottom line is people who cant tell the difference between right and wrong is dumb. when it comes to a worldwide economic and political system there are certain things that make too much sense to be ignored, no matter how much our leaders try to hide. These things are basically what a lot of northern European countries have with extended social securities and welfare and while i'm not sure if a policy that extreme will be put into place world wide, i do think that there will be a "bottom line" standard of living that we will try to hold all people to. That is what i think the most pressing social paradigm shift is in the world today.

lots of good ideas in this thread, i definitely think advances in energy and technology will help spur this kind of paradigm shift. AND of course one of the first things that will have to be addressed once we have a sort of global system that is actually capable of representing the people (aka the internet) will be global warming, and the drastic changes that have been happening in our environment recently. This is the most pressing political topic that needs to be discussed but isn't due to the agendas of the politicians which are heavily influenced by the corporate agenda.

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tokicheese
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada739 Posts
July 30 2013 05:37 GMT
#19
On July 30 2013 13:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 13:29 DeepElemBlues wrote:
A Butlerian jihad at some point against certain kinds of technological progress. Well not a war but eventually things will change too fast and lots of people will get riled up pretty good about it.

I don't think it would be a paradigm shift though now that I took a minute to think about it. Half the posts in this thread are not about things that would be paradigm shifts

The extension of human life by decades is more likely than not less than a hundred years away and will have a huge impact on society and human existence in general. And it's more likely to happen than anything that's been mentioned so far.

The technical capability, in the West, to switch to a hydrogen economy is probably not more than a hundred years off either, probably a lot sooner than that. That has the potential to be a very big thing.

I can see what you mean with the point one. With all this encroachment of social networking, targetting advertisements and the augmented reality glasses, I for one shall not be part of it much longer. I shall retreat to the Alaskan wilderness, form a society called 'The Pure' who eschew such things and live a peaceful life, away from Farmville.

I'm not so sure actually about the extension of human life being close. Indeed, the 80+ tend to be infirm and squishy as it is, I don't see how you can push further along that path really. The next step will probably be some kind of way to not necessarily extend our lifespan, but increase the quality of what we already have through vat-grown organs and that kind of thing.

I DO see a bombshell hitting when the effects of the older, economically unproductive segment of society being an increasingly large proportion of the population actually start to hit.

This will only come with global economic equalisation of some kind, but it'll happen eventual. At present, migrant workers can take up the slack in the developing world, but if their native countries give them sufficient economic opportunity that is a crutch that will be taken away.

I think that age bomb could be avoided by a shift to more and more technology allowing robots to do the work people once did.

If a robot for example could do repair work on cars the production at a auto body shop would at least triple. We could even get to a point where we are living in a utopia where no one works except for our robot slaves and man simply enjoys what he pleases.
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
July 30 2013 05:40 GMT
#20
On July 30 2013 14:37 tokicheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 13:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:29 DeepElemBlues wrote:
A Butlerian jihad at some point against certain kinds of technological progress. Well not a war but eventually things will change too fast and lots of people will get riled up pretty good about it.

I don't think it would be a paradigm shift though now that I took a minute to think about it. Half the posts in this thread are not about things that would be paradigm shifts

The extension of human life by decades is more likely than not less than a hundred years away and will have a huge impact on society and human existence in general. And it's more likely to happen than anything that's been mentioned so far.

The technical capability, in the West, to switch to a hydrogen economy is probably not more than a hundred years off either, probably a lot sooner than that. That has the potential to be a very big thing.

I can see what you mean with the point one. With all this encroachment of social networking, targetting advertisements and the augmented reality glasses, I for one shall not be part of it much longer. I shall retreat to the Alaskan wilderness, form a society called 'The Pure' who eschew such things and live a peaceful life, away from Farmville.

I'm not so sure actually about the extension of human life being close. Indeed, the 80+ tend to be infirm and squishy as it is, I don't see how you can push further along that path really. The next step will probably be some kind of way to not necessarily extend our lifespan, but increase the quality of what we already have through vat-grown organs and that kind of thing.

I DO see a bombshell hitting when the effects of the older, economically unproductive segment of society being an increasingly large proportion of the population actually start to hit.

This will only come with global economic equalisation of some kind, but it'll happen eventual. At present, migrant workers can take up the slack in the developing world, but if their native countries give them sufficient economic opportunity that is a crutch that will be taken away.

I think that age bomb could be avoided by a shift to more and more technology allowing robots to do the work people once did.

If a robot for example could do repair work on cars the production at a auto body shop would at least triple. We could even get to a point where we are living in a utopia where no one works except for our robot slaves and man simply enjoys what he pleases.


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