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Map (4)Kyanite Prospect 1v1

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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 17:05:05
May 12 2013 16:11 GMT
#1
(4)Kyanite Prospect

What is Kyanite?
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Overview

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Download (4)Kyanite Prospect from this page

Changelog
12th May 2013
Version 0.1 Kyanite Prospect

14th May 2013
Version 1.0 Kyanite Prospect
-Significant tweaks at the naturals
-Full decoration polish
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5480 Posts
May 12 2013 16:40 GMT
#2
Not such an easy to take third anymore now is it? :D
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
May 12 2013 17:51 GMT
#3
neutral cc in the middle please :D
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
May 12 2013 18:46 GMT
#4
On May 13 2013 02:51 FlaShFTW wrote:
neutral cc in the middle please :D

It should be standard for all maps to have a neutral cc in the center
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
May 12 2013 18:47 GMT
#5
I instantly think about Kiante.
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TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
May 12 2013 18:56 GMT
#6
On May 13 2013 03:47 digmouse wrote:
I instantly think about Kiante.


Same here... glad I'm not the only one :p

Slightly more on topic: dear god, looks like mutas would wreak havoc on the natural! I really like the layout of the thirds though, looks very interesting. Not impossible to take, but not too easy either...
I'm absolutely swamped with work and school stuff, but I'll try to test this map out if I can find the time. It definitely deserves to be played
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
May 12 2013 19:50 GMT
#7
Whoa, when I saw the title I had to see if thats actually what the map was named after.

Are you a mineralogist / rock collector?
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
May 12 2013 21:38 GMT
#8
Wow that's really, REALLY good!
  • Superb natural layout. I think these naturals are just about perfect, great improvements on FS. Narrow enough for standard walls, but widen to allow for ample defenses. A fair amount of space behind the minerals. The ledge nicely enhances opportunities for more harass, and even sneaking in drops.
  • The big ridges give a nice defender's advantage, but not too much.
  • Most importantly, you took my advice and fixed the fundamental problem with Frontline, making the 3rds harassable, but just right.

    Suggestions
  • Make make the nat ledge cliffable but connected to the main, like Polaris Rhapsody, perhaps slightly less wide (so width of Othello but without the block) [;
  • I'm imagining T5 P7, for T to take 1 all he has to do is plonk some tanks outside nat@2. Attacking there from east to west could possibly be made a bit easier, by slightly widening the little ramp on the curved side of the hill.
  • Decoration (add something funny in the water patches).
  • Neutral CC!

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Archaeo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States397 Posts
May 12 2013 23:21 GMT
#9
Looks awesome! Maybe mid should have a mineral field like FS?
Offtopic: Kyanite is a really nice mineral Too bad I don't have any in my collection
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
May 13 2013 03:58 GMT
#10
I dont suggest a neutral cc, thats a rather...novel concept, and one thats been overplayed recently. Just throw a few temples up for decoration if you want anything in the middle.
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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
May 13 2013 05:18 GMT
#11
that 3rd reminds me of Colosseum hehe.
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Axonn
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia287 Posts
May 13 2013 07:00 GMT
#12
I really like the map and wouldn't put neutral cc in the map, little high-ground base may be nice. Or if you really like the cc concept, you can make base that has neutral cc in mid so you need to kill it (infest it) in order to expo to that base.
Todd P
Profile Joined December 2010
42 Posts
May 13 2013 11:58 GMT
#13
I think this map would provide difficult for the TvP matchup:

1. Terran will have a very hard time defending his "natural" 3rd. Because of the veeeeery long path between the natural and the 3rd.

2. I think Protoss will experience a lot of 4-5-6 fact pushes because of very short rush distance in close positions + the fact there is high ground relativly close to the natural (if terran is attacking clockwise that is).
Impossible is nothing
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
May 14 2013 17:19 GMT
#14
I have uploaded Version 1.0 now.
Version 1.0 Kyanite Prospect
-Significant tweaks at the naturals
-Full decoration polish


There isn’t enough space in the middle for a neutral cc so I made a little island for one.
[image loading]

But ofcourse, the island made one base vulnerable to tank drops so I blew it up with a volcano!
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Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
May 14 2013 17:48 GMT
#15
Why have a neutral CC in the middle? It just lets Zerg use infested terrans vs Protoss and makes it more Zerg favoured in ZvP than it would be otherwise...
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 14 2013 18:36 GMT
#16
map just seems kinda.. to me tbh.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
May 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#17
you have space for it in the middle. the center is huge. definitely enough room
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
May 14 2013 21:58 GMT
#18
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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
May 16 2013 16:40 GMT
#19
@sheaRZerg Nope Im not a rock collector, but I like reading about various stuff :D
@bITt.mAN Im glad you like it. I think I can give myself a bit more credit for the design. Before I made frontline, I shared these images on broodwarmaps.net:
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[image loading]

I also posted this excerpt "I was going to start making a 4 player rotational version of Switchblade on the Jungle tileset.
Then I thought about this template you have made and thought I would play around first."
The template refers to the second picture above which is NegativeZeros WIP map plus 4 hills thrown on by me. Its a just a sketch. I then went ahead and made Frontline, and on purpose made it different. But I always wanted to make this map that you now have. I just knew my skills werent good enough to do it justice. Frontline was my first rotational map.

Just so you guys know, you cant just rejiggle things and release a new map. Kyanite Prospect represents 75 hours of work and was made from scratch. The decoration polish takes 20 hours on its own. I know it seems a bit selfish and attention whoring, but this map took a really long time to make. A lot of love and experience is poured into it and so I want to make sure eryone in the broodwar community has atleast seen it once!

But more than that, I actually just really like it. Even if I hadnt made it, I would love to see it used in SSL9 or whatever. Obviously there is always bias but, I imagine that Im looking at the map for the first time, and it had been made by CyGnus or the next man, and I still think to myself that it would cool to see Killer fight Hiya on this map!

Following on, I will be posting this map on Sonics facebook page in a short while. Its all I can think of to let those guys know about it. If any Korean speakers and people with contacts to Sonic want to help this map get seen by them then that would be good in my opinion. Im just a fan of Broodwar at the end of the day.

+ Show Spoiler +

But anyway, regarding the neutral CC, its 3 for and 3 against so my vote will count and its a negatron. Soz.
@arb which maps do you like out of curiousity?
@ All you lurkers out there;
Do take the time to post. If you like it, if you dont like it, I dont mind, its the silence that I dont like cus how can I know what to do next if I dont get feedback.

Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5480 Posts
May 16 2013 16:57 GMT
#20
On May 17 2013 01:40 CardinalAllin wrote:
@sheaRZerg Nope Im not a rock collector, but I like reading about various stuff :D
@bITt.mAN Im glad you like it. I think I can give myself a bit more credit for the design. Before I made frontline, I shared these images on broodwarmaps.net:
[image loading]

[image loading]

I also posted this excerpt "I was going to start making a 4 player rotational version of Switchblade on the Jungle tileset.
Then I thought about this template you have made and thought I would play around first."
The template refers to the second picture above which is NegativeZeros WIP map plus 4 hills thrown on by me. Its a just a sketch. I then went ahead and made Frontline, and on purpose made it different. But I always wanted to make this map that you now have. I just knew my skills werent good enough to do it justice. Frontline was my first rotational map.

Just so you guys know, you cant just rejiggle things and release a new map. Kyanite Prospect represents 75 hours of work and was made from scratch. The decoration polish takes 20 hours on its own. I know it seems a bit selfish and attention whoring, but this map took a really long time to make. A lot of love and experience is poured into it and so I want to make sure eryone in the broodwar community has atleast seen it once!

But more than that, I actually just really like it. Even if I hadnt made it, I would love to see it used in SSL9 or whatever. Obviously there is always bias but, I imagine that Im looking at the map for the first time, and it had been made by CyGnus or the next man, and I still think to myself that it would cool to see Killer fight Hiya on this map!

Following on, I will be posting this map on Sonics facebook page in a short while. Its all I can think of to let those guys know about it. If any Korean speakers and people with contacts to Sonic want to help this map get seen by them then that would be good in my opinion. Im just a fan of Broodwar at the end of the day.

+ Show Spoiler +

But anyway, regarding the neutral CC, its 3 for and 3 against so my vote will count and its a negatron. Soz.
@arb which maps do you like out of curiousity?
@ All you lurkers out there;
Do take the time to post. If you like it, if you dont like it, I dont mind, its the silence that I dont like cus how can I know what to do next if I dont get feedback.



I think posting him the iccup competition thread would be a lot more useful and it would give him a lot of maps to draw form for future seasons
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
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