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This is the Live Report Thread for IPL 6 Amateur Wings of Liberty Regional Qualifier. We will be broadcasting the semi-finals and finals for each qualifier. The winner of this qualifier will receive hotel and travel accommodation for the event as well as a seed into Round 3 of the event. Second place also receives a seed, but no travel accommodations.
Upcoming Regionals:
Amateur Regional - Saturday January 19 - 12pm -Pacific - BRACKET
When: Friday, Feb 01 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)
+ Show Spoiler [Semi-final: Pink v Zero Results] + Pink < Ohana > Zero
Pink < Entombed Valley > Zero
+ Show Spoiler [Semi-final: Panic v Arthur Results] + Panic < Ohana > Arthur
Panic < Entombed Valley > Arthur
Panic < Daybreak > Arthur
+ Show Spoiler [Grand Final Results] + Zero < Cloud Kingdom > Panic
Zero < Daybreak > Panic
Zero < Ohana > Panic
Poll: Who will win?Zero (5) 38% Arthur (5) 38% Pink (2) 15% Panic (1) 8% 13 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): Zero
(Vote): Pink
(Vote): Panic
(Vote): Arthur
Map List
IPL6 Daybreak
IPL6 Cloud Kingdom
IPL6 Ohana
IPL6 Entombed Valley
The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.
Casters
Today's games will be commentated by Tim "Robin" Frazier and Andrew "Kibbelz" Dunne!
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Damn, Pink did well, only time I've ever seen him was when he got to the finals of that one TSL4 qualifier vs Sase.
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Pink fighting for mid-tier Europeans everywhere!
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Why hasn't Arthur gotten on a team btw, he's better than some people who did. Gogo Azubu, throw more money around!
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not sure by what measure korean progamers on pro -teams are considered amateurs.
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On February 01 2013 11:03 1Dhalism wrote:
not sure by what measure korean progamers on pro -teams are considered amateurs.
Our system limits it to players who have made less than $1000 in live events. No qualification is perfect. Both of these are certainly players that are getting their first opportunity to perform in front of a large audience.
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Now, I want to know: Who is this Pink guy? I've seen him pop up at TSL and some small Danish tournaments, but I have no clue whatsoever as to who he is.
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Ought to clarify in OP that this is ST_ZerO, not WJS_ZerO.
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On February 01 2013 11:07 IGNProLeague wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 11:03 1Dhalism wrote:
not sure by what measure korean progamers on pro -teams are considered amateurs. Our system limits it to players who have made less than $1000 in live events. No qualification is perfect. Both of these are certainly players that are getting their first opportunity to perform in front of a large audience.
Doesn't matter, they play this game for a living, are on a professional Korean team, live in a teamhouse, etc. etc. I don't think anyone considers them amateurs, apart from you guys, apparently.
You probably should have just renamed this qualifier, as well as both International Qualifiers to "Additional Korean Qualifier 1/2/3", because that's what they've always been.
Oh well.
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On February 01 2013 11:42 Sirrush wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 11:07 IGNProLeague wrote:On February 01 2013 11:03 1Dhalism wrote:
not sure by what measure korean progamers on pro -teams are considered amateurs. Our system limits it to players who have made less than $1000 in live events. No qualification is perfect. Both of these are certainly players that are getting their first opportunity to perform in front of a large audience. Doesn't matter, they play this game for a living, are on a professional Korean team, live in a teamhouse, etc. etc. I don't think anyone considers them amateurs, apart from you guys, apparently. You probably should have just renamed this qualifier, as well as both International Qualifiers to "Additional Korean Qualifier 1/2/3", because that's what they've always been. Oh well.
Not sure how significant this is. At the end of the day, if a foreigner wants to 'breakthrough', they will have to beat some Koreans.
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On February 01 2013 11:50 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 11:42 Sirrush wrote:On February 01 2013 11:07 IGNProLeague wrote:On February 01 2013 11:03 1Dhalism wrote:
not sure by what measure korean progamers on pro -teams are considered amateurs. Our system limits it to players who have made less than $1000 in live events. No qualification is perfect. Both of these are certainly players that are getting their first opportunity to perform in front of a large audience. Doesn't matter, they play this game for a living, are on a professional Korean team, live in a teamhouse, etc. etc. I don't think anyone considers them amateurs, apart from you guys, apparently. You probably should have just renamed this qualifier, as well as both International Qualifiers to "Additional Korean Qualifier 1/2/3", because that's what they've always been. Oh well. Not sure how significant this is. At the end of the day, if a foreigner wants to 'breakthrough', they will have to beat some Koreans.
Which would instantly make them better than 95% of current foreign pros who were invited into the European/American qualifiers. Why do foreign amateurs have to go through the monumental task of beating several (non-amateur) Koreans to break through, while foreign pros get it easy and can qualify by playing not a single Korean?
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On February 01 2013 12:00 Sirrush wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 11:50 vthree wrote:On February 01 2013 11:42 Sirrush wrote:On February 01 2013 11:07 IGNProLeague wrote:On February 01 2013 11:03 1Dhalism wrote:
not sure by what measure korean progamers on pro -teams are considered amateurs. Our system limits it to players who have made less than $1000 in live events. No qualification is perfect. Both of these are certainly players that are getting their first opportunity to perform in front of a large audience. Doesn't matter, they play this game for a living, are on a professional Korean team, live in a teamhouse, etc. etc. I don't think anyone considers them amateurs, apart from you guys, apparently. You probably should have just renamed this qualifier, as well as both International Qualifiers to "Additional Korean Qualifier 1/2/3", because that's what they've always been. Oh well. Not sure how significant this is. At the end of the day, if a foreigner wants to 'breakthrough', they will have to beat some Koreans. Which would instantly make them better than 95% of current foreign pros who were invited into the European/American qualifiers. Why do foreign amateurs have to go through the monumental task of beating several (non-amateur) Koreans to break through, while foreign pros get it easy and can qualify by playing not a single Korean?
AFAIK, anyone (pro or amateur) can sign up the for EU/NA Qualifiers as long as you live there or hold citizenship. In a way, NA/EU 'amateurs' just get an additional chance. But that chance includes playing Korean 'amateurs'.
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Which would instantly make them better than 95% of current foreign pros who were invited into the European/American qualifiers. Why do foreign amateurs have to go through the monumental task of beating several (non-amateur) Koreans to break through, while foreign pros get it easy and can qualify by playing not a single Korean?
No one was invited to the EU or NA qualifiers. It was an open bracket and anyone could have signed up.
"they play this game for a living, are on a professional Korean team, live in a teamhouse"
I don't really see the reason for a double standard between Korean teams and foreign teams...=/
Whether a player is on a Korean team or foreign team, it's ultimately the player putting in the work.
I see this qualifier more as a chance for players who have had less exposure get a chance to breakout at a live event and to do that, it means you'll have to beat a Korean/high level pro along the way and show the potential to do it through the qualifier. Otherwise it's a waste of IPLs money to send someone who beat people of his own skill level and pit him/her against Code S/Code A and other high level pros...
It's possible that "Amateur" is the wrong way to word it but calling it a "wildcard" qualifier would be better.
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On February 02 2013 10:59 EliteSK wrote:Show nested quote +
Which would instantly make them better than 95% of current foreign pros who were invited into the European/American qualifiers. Why do foreign amateurs have to go through the monumental task of beating several (non-amateur) Koreans to break through, while foreign pros get it easy and can qualify by playing not a single Korean?
No one was invited to the EU or NA qualifiers. It was an open bracket and anyone could have signed up. Show nested quote +"they play this game for a living, are on a professional Korean team, live in a teamhouse" I don't really see the reason for a double standard between Korean teams and foreign teams...=/ Whether a player is on a Korean team or foreign team, it's ultimately the player putting in the work. I see this qualifier more as a chance for players who have had less exposure get a chance to breakout at a live event and to do that, it means you'll have to beat a Korean/high level pro along the way and show the potential to do it through the qualifier. Otherwise it's a waste of IPLs money to send someone who beat people of his own skill level and pit him/her against Code S/Code A and other high level pros... It's possible that "Amateur" is the wrong way to word it but calling it a "wildcard" qualifier would be better.
The reason it is called 'amateur' is because of the $1,000 winnings restriction. If it was 'wildcard', then it would need to be open and it would be the same as a normal international qualifiers.
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I guess that's also true. People were being picky about how IPL defined amateur, so I attempted at tryin to pick a better word but probably not the best term to use as well.
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