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mTw bankrupt, unable to pay players, intends to fold

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mvick
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands37 Posts
January 19 2013 18:01 GMT
#1
Cadred.org did some research into one of the household organizations in eSports, mTw, about a couple of reports we heard regarding late payments. As it turns out almost all players that have been in the organization for the last half year or so. In the investigative piece we tried to uncover what is really going on within the organization and what sums are owed.

It is sad news then that we reveal not only is the organisation intending to shut down as soon as possible but it is also, effectively, broke. It has reneged on several of its player contracts and has been unable to pay money to its players for some time, nor even fund their travel to events. This has culminated in the recent loss of one of the jewels in their crown, the highly rated Ukrainian Starcraft 2 player Dmytro "DIMAGA" Filipchuk who has been with the organisation since 2010. Simply put the organisation is in no fit shape to continue but has decided to limp along for appearances sake. Today, we shall reveal the extent of how far mTw have fallen and their plans for the future.


You can read the entire piece here.
Cadred.org Editor of StarCraft2 Content
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
January 19 2013 18:03 GMT
#2
not more drama....
''you got to yolo things up to win''
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 19 2013 18:04 GMT
#3
On January 20 2013 03:03 TsGBruzze wrote:
not more drama....


It's the continuance of the same drama with mTw closing shop.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
January 19 2013 18:04 GMT
#4
Very sad, mTw has been a staple of European gaming organizations since the hay days of 1.6
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1181 Posts
January 19 2013 18:06 GMT
#5
Well that explains why DIMAGA left. We're seeing more and more drama about organisations not paying their players. Something feels really wrong about "esports" these days, some professionalism is to be expected in the near future if we want things to stabilize.
AicyDC
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom71 Posts
January 19 2013 18:08 GMT
#6
On January 20 2013 03:03 TsGBruzze wrote:
not more drama....


I wouldn't call people's livelihoods "drama". This is a very serious matter.
It wasn't raining when noah built the ark
HoLe
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada183 Posts
January 19 2013 18:09 GMT
#7
Sounds like stupid people biting off more than they can chew
Terran.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1803 Posts
January 19 2013 18:10 GMT
#8
Damn it -.- Natural Selection at work I guess?
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
January 19 2013 18:11 GMT
#9
On January 20 2013 03:06 crbox wrote:
Well that explains why DIMAGA left. We're seeing more and more drama about organisations not paying their players. Something feels really wrong about "esports" these days, some professionalism is to be expected in the near future if we want things to stabilize.

More professionalism will make it impossible for many many Teams to sustain themselfs.
kYem
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom412 Posts
January 19 2013 18:12 GMT
#10
Well I'm not surprised, It was pretty obvious they were having difficulties.
Hell
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
January 19 2013 18:13 GMT
#11
I dislike the topic "mTw Not Paying Players". Just because cadred is saying so, doesn't make it a fact.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
January 19 2013 18:15 GMT
#12
So this is why mtw dota 2 couldn't go to dreamhack.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
January 19 2013 18:16 GMT
#13
I'm willing to bet that the SC2 hype train giving out waaay faster than most people ever expected a year ago has a lot to do with the condition of the scene we see now. I'm sure many of these organizations projected that SC2 would still be growing at this point, not dying.. ;(
mvick
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands37 Posts
January 19 2013 18:17 GMT
#14
On January 20 2013 03:13 Doso wrote:
I dislike the topic "mTw Not Paying Players". Just because cadred is saying so, doesn't make it a fact.


We wouldn't say this just to stir up some dust. We have all the evidence to back it up.
Cadred.org Editor of StarCraft2 Content
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
January 19 2013 18:17 GMT
#15
On January 20 2013 03:13 Doso wrote:
I dislike the topic "mTw Not Paying Players". Just because cadred is saying so, doesn't make it a fact.

You might want to actually read the article cause the players themselves say it, not just cadred.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 18:20:11
January 19 2013 18:18 GMT
#16
On January 20 2013 03:16 SupLilSon wrote:
I'm willing to bet that the SC2 hype train giving out waaay faster than most people ever expected a year ago has a lot to do with the condition of the scene we see now. I'm sure many of these organizations projected that SC2 would still be growing at this point, not dying.. ;(

Might want to read the article, this is not sc2 exclusive.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
January 19 2013 18:18 GMT
#17
Very sad that this has occurred. Too many scam-artists in this game.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 19 2013 18:19 GMT
#18
I thought mtw is fucking rich. Just take a look at their (ex) css and csgo teams, full of international players ranging from uk to canada, and all staying in Germany for eps and (supposed to be) salaried

Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 18:23:25
January 19 2013 18:22 GMT
#19
Sad to hear that. But instead of brining the pitchforks against mTw the people should look a bit more at the sponsors. In the end these are the guys that are promising money to the teams and dont hold what they said.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
January 19 2013 18:28 GMT
#20
On January 20 2013 03:18 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 03:16 SupLilSon wrote:
I'm willing to bet that the SC2 hype train giving out waaay faster than most people ever expected a year ago has a lot to do with the condition of the scene we see now. I'm sure many of these organizations projected that SC2 would still be growing at this point, not dying.. ;(

Might want to read the article, this is not sc2 exclusive.

Lol... no shit... but many organizations as well as fans saw SC2 as the impetus for turning Esports into a legitimate business. Teams such as mTw and Quantic probably invested a large portion of their resources to building SC2 divisions in the hopes that SC2 would continue growing and eventually garner returns. If you read the article they speak about exactly this. So maybe I should be the one asking you if you read the article....
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