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On November 21 2012 07:23 VisceraEyes wrote: And you know the harder I fight it the more likely I am to be inched. This is well documented. Yeah I heard some people go the whole nine yard to inch you. | ||
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On November 21 2012 12:46 Clarity_nl wrote: One thing no one has mentioned that we have to consider is that sending people on missions will affect their hp in some way I'm sure, this means we can't just use the same party setup every time. Using the 4 towniest people mission 1 might hurt us down the line. This only means that ideally we would be only sending VTs. Since that will probably be impossible, we should not put to much thought to it. After all, if the events help us win the game, no townie should be afraid of sacrificing some of his HP or his life for the cause. On November 21 2012 13:06 goodkarma wrote: Who I would nominate (if not myself): As of right now, my support for a party leader (besides myself) would be sandroba. Sandroba seems to be adopting a solid strategy at present. I wholeheartedly agree with going with the most townie individuals, even if they are inexperienced. We don't know how the minigames are going to work yet, but we do know with 100% certainty that scum will count against their success. In a game where we don't lynch, all we can do is establish who is actually town. It is absolutely ridiculous to nominate people who have both strong scum and town games and are hard to read day one (thinking of Marv). I also completely agree with the suggestion that's been brought up that parties be suggested by those who are hoping to be nominated up-front. This is especially important if we are to nominate a townie who isn't as experienced. Goodkarma for President: As your leader, I will do my best to further the policy of choosing the most obvious townies as detailed above. Along those lines, I would elect to choose both sandroba and promethelax for my party. The third is still tentative, as the game has only been going for a short time. You would vote Sandroba because you think his strategy is solid. His strategy involves taking less known townies on the team and no additional vets, to make it harder for scum to decide who to snipe. Your Strategy however would be to take at least one vet and a well known, albeit newer town player to your team. Why? On November 21 2012 14:10 Z-BosoN wrote: @Djodref I've never played with sandroba nor am I familiar with his meta. There are a lot of people here that are though (lots of vets), so I'm taking an overall town perspective. This is an assumption of course, but I think it's a fair one. You are therefore assuming that one of the vets is town, is able to read sandroba as scum(my) and is able to convince town about it, necessarly against other vets who might be scum as well? On November 21 2012 15:04 Keirathi wrote: Man, am I the only person who doesn't want to be party leader? Maybe that sounds scummy because "Keir doesn't want to be held accountable for his choices", but I'm certainly willing to say who I want to be party leader and who I would want in the party. Its just that I don't trust my ability to read people enough to put the final decision into my own hands :o I feel you. I know my D1 reads are often not good, so I'd be a bad choice for party leader at D1. @Dieno, Please cut the fluff, this does not help town. Could you give us some insight if you have any experience with mafia outside of TL? Or are you totally new to this kind of game? | ||
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Why is everyone asking for town reads? I understand that the mechanics are working differently, but everyone just spreading their townreads like the flu will only make it easier for scum to decide who to shoot at night. People like Keirathi and me who have no desire in being elected D1 should not be giving out any townreads, instead we can actually scum hunt in the traditional way and establish ourselfes as town this way. I even think that most candidates should not be throwing out their town reads unless they seem to be a serious candidate (meaning several people have voiced interest in voting that person). | ||
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On November 21 2012 16:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Nice post phagga. Do you have a strategy on picking the party leaders/party members? I will pick a party leader who (priority in this order): 1.) I have a town read on 2.) Is good at reading people D1 3.) has a sound plan how to choose his team 4.) Suggests/chooses team members that I agree with 1 and 2 are a must, 3 and 4 are nice to have. | ||
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On November 21 2012 16:35 goodkarma wrote: The reason we're not doing traditional scumhunting is because we don't have the power to lynch scum. Our time is best used determining who is most likely town, as we're (hopefully) voting for townies as party leader. I've touched on this a few times. Hopefully this is the last time clarification is needed. This game isn't about scumhunting. Rather, it revolves around townhunting. Ok, looks like I need to clarify myself. Townhunting is stupid. Do you know why? Because scum can fake it to no end, since they know who is not scum. Talking about who is townie makes it much easier for scum to blend in, which then makes it much harder for town to choose the right people for their teams. Yes, there may be multiple factions in this game. Still, if we force scum to scumhunt they are more likely to trip as if they can just give their townreads out. So, no, I disagree that this game revolves around townhunting. We find out who is townie by scumhunting, not by townhunting. | ||
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On November 22 2012 02:28 Hopeless1der wrote: Does this scale move across to green/blue? What color are you and what color is syllo? Why exaclty is this important to you? What do you hope to gain from it? | ||
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On November 22 2012 01:34 Acrofales wrote: Didn't I already answer that question? Oh yes. I remember. I did: At the time, I was leaning Djoref, because I was feeling town on him, and sending a somewhat experienced town seemed better than veteran Sandro with 3 noobies. However, he says he cannot commit the time, leaving us with Sandro and Syllo. Iamperfection and Dino are unfortunately not serious candidates for me. Perfection is way too focused on people seeing him as town and not nearly focused enough on playing the game. Dino is fluffy. Talking about fluffy, where is BioSC? What's with Kita? On November 21 2012 21:23 Acrofales wrote: @syllo and phagga: you advocate a policy of scumhunting, yet are doing no scumhunting. People who seem to be clearly focused on scumhunting so far: clarity and toad. Why are you not in that list? Syllo at least is giving a running commentary of the game. Phagga just posted the policy of scumhunting and went away. Phagga, why are you not practicing what you preach? I was busy | ||
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On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote: CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal. why is that townie? I would expect a townie to want to be part of every mission if possible, as it will make sure that at least that spot is not occupied by scum (from that specific townies point of view). | ||
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On November 22 2012 03:14 Dienosore wrote: I italicized 'first' because I wanted to draw attention to the fact that party leaders will be changing quite often and I feel as if people are thinking this is going to be a permanent position. As for the majority elected team, I think it's more logical to do things this way, at least for the first cycle while we are completely in the dark. I don't view polling the masses as dodging responsibility, but rather taking away the mafias chance to have an iron grip on the initial proceedings (assuming scum is elected and starts a dictatorship). By putting the vote out into the open, we also have another opportunity to see where loyalties lie. It is naive at least to think that town is able to vote 3 townies on D1. Looking at players like kushm4sta you should realize fast that sometimes townies don't have a clue what they are doing. Chances are that at least one scum will be voted into the team. | ||
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- Dienosore: I could very well imagine that he is 3rd party. If not, then town. do not think he is scum, as I cannot imagine scum to enter the thread the way he did. However, I oppose having him on the party. - Goodkarma: I will have to go through his filter again (not in the next 10 hours though), but my gut currently says that he is talking too much about the importance of townhunting. I have him in my mind as "looks like he is contributing but is not really helping town". Do not want him on the party. - CaveJohnson: willing to sacrifice players regardless of their alignement? 3rd Party at least, scum at worst. | ||
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On November 21 2012 22:28 marvellosity wrote: I'm not interested at running for party leader atm. And it's not about gauging support, I'd probably just tell town to vote for me from the get go if I wanted it. Why don't I want it? Like syllo I've been hoping to be somewhat 'lazy'. While I will give this game my full attention like any other, partly I've come along for the ride. I don't want to dominate this game (for better or worse) like I'm capable of doing. Plus I don't feel very at home in themed setups like this. There are going to be some differences in how scum/town players act compared to normal setups, and I don't know what they are yet. There are a few players in this game who I hold in extremely high regard (I think are better than me) and in that situation I feel somewhat insecure. If those players weren't in the game I'm pretty sure I would be standing for party leader because I'd think I knew best out of everyone playing, but I don't think that in this game. This post really bothers me. It's hard to grasp what exactly disturbs me. Let's try. What if those players you hold in high regards are all scum or 3rd party? I mean, in a game where there are several vets it would be even more important that as many strong town members as possible try to lead town. If all just hope that the next vet will do it, scum can fuck us over even harder considering the lineup. i really do not like how you are stealing yourself out of the responsibility here. This is a perfect setup for later to find excuses. And if you are town, it is probably not helping town. | ||
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