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On November 03 2012 00:50 Alsn wrote: Don't worry Cheese, knowing Rad he will jail the Doctor who was about to save a townie. <3 LOL as long as there's damage to be done to town, I'll find a way. | ||
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Glad to be doing this again, and really happy that it's a lot of the same players. Lynch lurkers. Let's get that straight this time. (as a note, if there's a clear scum, obviously we lynch them over an unknown lurker, but I do not intend to go for another so-so lynch over a lurker again) Don't lurk, thanks!  I don't think we'll have any problems with that this time though, considering the players. We've all learned our lesson on this topic I think. I should typically be able to be active for a few hours before lynches with the time bumped back an hour from the last game's time. I will be pretty active this weekend, but I'm also a huge sc2 fan and mlg will be taking most of my attention. Definitely going to be reading/thinking/posting on downtime and/or boring matchups. | ||
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We don't want lurkers. That's the reason for the policy lynch. Force people to not lurk. We want active conversation from EVERYONE as that's best for town. | ||
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On November 03 2012 10:43 Djodref wrote: For everyone, here is the compilation of the games I've played so far with the corresponding filters. It's very good that we know each others but I guess that you didn't really research my meta last game. So here you go ! -Newbie Mini Mafia XXVIII as Cop -Looney Lynching Mini Mafia as mafia pardoner -Newbie Mini Mafia XXIX as VT @ Rad The only potential lurkers that we have in this game are daoud and maybe Obzy (but it doesn't look like it). My problem with your policy is that it is directed towards these players in this game. What we have to be wary of is active lurking (refer to the mafiaQT in the previous game) and people blending in. Do you see anyone else possibly lurking ? Most people in this game already agreed about the lurker policy at the end of last game. So yeah, my statements were more directed towards obzy. He responded to them and we discussed, so I feel that was a fine move on my end. Hopefully da0ud doesn't have some crazy RL activity this time and he'll be able to be less of an active lurker this game. | ||
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On November 03 2012 11:04 Djodref wrote: @ Rad That's my problem with a lurker policy this game, I think that it can be used only against daoud or Obzy (maybe sylverfire). I think it would be much better to call directly these players for lurking rather agreeing on a policy which could be a perfect excuse for the mafia to push a mislynch on them, assuming that they are town. It's a small game and if you have a problem with the activity level of anyone, you can call them on it, no need for a policy. @Djo If no one lurks, the lurker policy has done its job. That's all it's there to do, stop people from lurking. Nothing more, nothing less. Let's move on shall we? | ||
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On November 03 2012 10:20 Alsn wrote: I like it how you say 99% of the time, yet I know from reading XXIX's scum QT that you were away on purpose for the last lynch. I also bet you haven't yet participated in anywhere near 100 lynches, so technically that's a lie. Although, I probably should have paid more attention to what you actually voted for that game as opposed to whether or not you were actually around so I'll let that one slide. I'm Alsn, I'll be around for flip-time generally, but they happen at 1 am local time so don't expect me to stick around for too long afterwards. Prior games include XXV(VT), XXVIII(VT) and XXIX also as VT. And yea, if given the choice between weak scum reads and hardcore lurkers, I'll hunt down and feed the hardcore lurker gone off cheesecake first chance I get. That being said, I'm off to lurk(also known as sleep, for those of you concerned with base things such as human metabolic function). @Alsn Don't make the "lie" too big of a deal. People throw out random percentages all the time. Also, using red there was a bit over-dramatic, don't you think? @debears I don't see much of a good reason to push him on this issue anymore. TBH I was a bit frustrated with you not showing up at night 1 to help talk me down from shooting kush, but then again, if you were there, you might have pushed me into it (like dandel did) ^^ I get a sense of that same frustration from alsn right now, whether it's contrived or real. Because in the end, 99% is a straight up wrong statistic, and it's best if you don't use completely bs stats in trying to prove a point. | ||
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On November 03 2012 11:24 Djodref wrote: The policy prevents mafia players from lurking but it doesn't stop anyone from being inactive. And the policy is the best excuse ever for mafia to lynch an inactive town player with IRL issues. This game is full of active players and small enough to call directly a player on active lurking, blending in or pure lurking. I don't think we need the policy and I'm going to get very suspicious on players lynching according to the policy only. You're over-thinking this. KISS - keep it simple stupid Let's lynch lurkers so we can guarantee only active players and increase our chance to get good reads. Also, let's move on from this debate as it's cluttering up the thread. | ||
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Not sure, something useful I'm sure debears will think of something if he's shooting for a filter size that only you could possibly achieve. | ||
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I don't really know what to say about it. When I used it last game, I meant it, clearly, as I was town, and that was my very first game. So, I was just being honest. I think it's an interesting thing to bring up though, because had it not been brought up last game, I would have used it much more, and it probably would have hurt more than helped. Since it was brought up at the beginning, I at least attempted not to use it, and only used it when I felt it was the only explanation. So I would agree, attempt to stay away from the newbie card if at all possible. | ||
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It wasn't confusing, at all... | ||
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I don't think there's too much mafia motivation in throwing out 1 joke this early in day 1, especially with us all coming from the other game and it being a pretty friendly environment at the moment. I'd consider it the pre-game bleeding into the real game. I'm sure we will all start hating each other soon enough. | ||
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I don't remember too many jokes from cheese throughout last game. Just pregame. Oh, and his "Sandy" response to the hurricane question. Anyway, it doesn't matter, I get a null read from his joke. @djo Why are you bringing up the idea of a discussion on plurality lynch? That's not even in our control, is it? Host said plurality, so it's plurality, end of story, unless I'm missing something? | ||
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On November 03 2012 12:20 debears wrote: So if he's scum and he didn't joke in the game (which he did) while joking in the qt a lot, wouldnt you say he is being more genuine, which is a townie trait? Why are defending cheese's personality this game? We all get he's a funny guy and likes to joke. We only have 1 game from him to go on, and a scum QT. He could be acting different here for a variety of reasons. Why do you want us to get a town read on him just from being more genuine this game? Town motivation: Be more open and honest and townie. Scum motivation: Everyone knows his real personality now from the scum QT, he needs to switch it up or we'll be suspicious. It's a null tell. Why are you pushing the idea that it's a town tell? | ||
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On November 03 2012 12:28 Djodref wrote: @ Rad It was sarcastic. I wanted us to discuss how we should use the mechanics of the plurality lynch at our advantage in this game but I think that the time for discussing this king of thing is over. I wanted Cheesecake to understand, if he is town, that I could also spark some discussion with this FoS. You're being internet sarcastic (read: confusing) right after giving cheese a hard time for being obviously joking (read: not confusing)? | ||
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That's a great point and I want to reemphasize it. @Obzy If you're town, please disregard any suggestions about you being useless so far. Just keep attempting to be useful and you'll get the hang of it. You don't have to post as much as debears, djo, or even myself to be useful so don't get discouraged. However, don't hold back and give your input on things when you have input as it'll be helpful to town if we get some more input from you. Also I see debears has directed some questions at you so here's a chance to open up a bit. | ||
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On October 25 2012 13:54 sylverfyre wrote: Whoa what? I don't follow your line of reasoning that he's pushing for policy lynching lurkers over a scumread. When he said, early on: FOS: debears. Explain more clearly where your scum tell is? Ok now I'm actually going to bed. I don't know what to think about da0ud because he's in (I think I remember) China? Which should be a good posting time right now but who knows what he's up to? | ||
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