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Article: Why Black Women are Fat

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xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 14:33:07
May 14 2012 14:00 GMT
#1
READ: Guys, this is about a black woman, offering a new appraoch to obesity problem among blacks, and how this new perspective on the issue can bring about a more effective and meaningful solution to the obesity problem. Don't just read the title and post a stupid reply.


Alice Randall, a canon in American literature, says that the whole obesity thing (four out of five black women are seriously overweight) is being looked at in all the wrong approaches. Randall presents a new perspective to this issue, what she calls "body-culture revolution in black Amercia" that explains black woman are fat because they want to be.

Randall cites literature and songs that adore voluptuousness. A 1987 poem “Homage to My Hips” begins with the boast, “These hips are big hips.” She establishes big black hips as something a woman would want to have and a man would desire.

There is also politics in it, other than the aesthetic reason. The fat black woman’s body “functions as a site of resistance to both gendered and racialized oppression.” By contextualizing fatness within the African diaspora, she invites us to notice that the fat black woman can be a rounded opposite of the fit black slave, that the fatness of black women has often functioned as both explicit political statement and active political resistance.

From this fresh perspective, Randall claims that it is easy to aproach the obesity problem. She acknowledges that the money spent on anti-diabetes and anti-obesity program is better spent on education and technology. That is why in her small way, she is helping other women in the community to "keep it below 200 pounds", in various exercise, diet, and yoga programs. She is hopeful that while she may never be as fit as she wants, at least it will be hard for her daughter and future generation to get fat.

FOUR out of five black women are seriously overweight. One out of four middle-aged black women has diabetes. With $174 billion a year spent on diabetes-related illness in America and obesity quickly overtaking smoking as a cause of cancer deaths, it is past time to try something new.

What we need is a body-culture revolution in black America. Why? Because too many experts who are involved in the discussion of obesity don’t understand something crucial about black women and fat: many black women are fat because we want to be.

The black poet Lucille Clifton’s 1987 poem “Homage to My Hips” begins with the boast, “These hips are big hips.” She establishes big black hips as something a woman would want to have and a man would desire. She wasn’t the first or the only one to reflect this community knowledge. Twenty years before, in 1967, Joe Tex, a black Texan, dominated the radio airwaves across black America with a song he wrote and recorded, “Skinny Legs and All.” One of his lines haunts me to this day: “some man, somewhere who’ll take you baby, skinny legs and all.” For me, it still seems almost an impossibility.

Chemically, in its ability to promote disease, black fat may be the same as white fat. Culturally it is not.

How many white girls in the ’60s grew up praying for fat thighs? I know I did. I asked God to give me big thighs like my dancing teacher, Diane. There was no way I wanted to look like Twiggy, the white model whose boy-like build was the dream of white girls. Not with Joe Tex ringing in my ears.

How many middle-aged white women fear their husbands will find them less attractive if their weight drops to less than 200 pounds? I have yet to meet one.

But I know many black women whose sane, handsome, successful husbands worry when their women start losing weight. My lawyer husband is one.

Another friend, a woman of color who is a tenured professor, told me that her husband, also a tenured professor and of color, begged her not to lose “the sugar down below” when she embarked on a weight-loss program.

And it’s not only aesthetics that make black fat different. It’s politics too. To get a quick introduction to the politics of black fat, I recommend Andrea Elizabeth Shaw’s provocative book “The Embodiment of Disobedience: Fat Black Women’s Unruly Political Bodies.” Ms. Shaw argues that the fat black woman’s body “functions as a site of resistance to both gendered and racialized oppression.” By contextualizing fatness within the African diaspora, she invites us to notice that the fat black woman can be a rounded opposite of the fit black slave, that the fatness of black women has often functioned as both explicit political statement and active political resistance.

When the biologist Daniel Lieberman suggested in a public lecture at Harvard this past February that exercise for everyone should be mandated by law, the audience applauded, the Harvard Gazette reported. A room full of thin affluent people applauding the idea of forcing fatties, many of whom are dark, poor and exhausted, to exercise appalls me. Government mandated exercise is a vicious concept. But I get where Mr. Lieberman is coming from. The cost of too many people getting too fat is too high.

I live in Nashville. There is an ongoing rivalry between Nashville and Memphis. In black Nashville, we like to think of ourselves as the squeaky-clean brown town best known for our colleges and churches. In contrast, black Memphis is known for its music and bars and churches. We often tease the city up the road by saying that in Nashville we have a church on every corner and in Memphis they have a church and a liquor store on every corner. Only now the saying goes, there’s a church, a liquor store and a dialysis center on every corner in black Memphis.

The billions that we are spending to treat diabetes is money that we don’t have for education reform or retirement benefits, and what’s worse, it’s estimated that the total cost of America’s obesity epidemic could reach almost $1 trillion by 2030 if we keep on doing what we have been doing.

WE have to change. Black women especially. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, blacks have 51 percent higher obesity rates than whites do. We’ve got to do better. I’ve weighed more than 200 pounds. Now I weigh less. It will always be a battle.

My goal is to be the last fat black woman in my family. For me that has meant swirling exercise into my family culture, of my own free will and volition. I have my own personal program: walk eight miles a week, sleep eight hours a night and drink eight glasses of water a day.

I call on every black woman for whom it is appropriate to commit to getting under 200 pounds or to losing the 10 percent of our body weight that often results in a 50 percent reduction in diabetes risk. Sleeping better may be key, as recent research suggests that lack of sleep is a little-acknowledged culprit in obesity. But it is not just sleep, exercise and healthy foods we need to solve this problem — we also need wisdom.

I expect obesity will be like alcoholism. People who know the problem intimately find their way out, then lead a few others. The few become millions.

Down here, that movement has begun. I hold Zumba classes in my dining room, have a treadmill in my kitchen and have organized yoga classes for women up to 300 pounds. And I’ve got a weighted exercise Hula-Hoop I call the black Cadillac. Our go-to family dinner is sliced cucumbers, salsa, spinach and scrambled egg whites with onions. Our go-to snack is peanut butter — no added sugar or salt — on a spoon. My quick breakfast is a roasted sweet potato, no butter, or Greek yogurt with six almonds.

That’s soul food, Nashville 2012.

I may never get small doing all of this. But I have made it much harder for the next generation, including my 24-year-old daughter, to get large.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/opinion/sunday/why-black-women-are-fat.html
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 14 2012 14:03 GMT
#2
Not sure what to say about this...
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
May 14 2012 14:04 GMT
#3
I like big butts and I cannot lie
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
May 14 2012 14:05 GMT
#4
This reminds me that i have to watch Big Momma's House 3. Keep forgetting.
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
May 14 2012 14:06 GMT
#5
Yes but it doesn't justify growing from fat to morbidly obese.
D3 and Pho, the way to go. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340709
obsidia
Profile Joined October 2010
122 Posts
May 14 2012 14:08 GMT
#6
maybe they are fat because they eat too much?

stop trying to make a political statement out of some completely inane issue.
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
May 14 2012 14:08 GMT
#7
What non-sense.

Black people have a lower mean iq and are less educated on average. Education and IQ have a demonstrated positive correlation with obesity. This is the only evidenced link between being a black woman and being obese. I could formulate it statistically but I really can't be bothered.

User was temp banned for this post.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
May 14 2012 14:09 GMT
#8
I believe people are fat because that's how we are supposed to react to having unlimited amounts of food^^ It's still a really really bad thing though and we should all try to stay healthy
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
May 14 2012 14:10 GMT
#9
Really interesting, thanks for sharing !
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Saline
Profile Joined February 2008
United States73 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 14:12:02
May 14 2012 14:10 GMT
#10
This article is completely littered with standard human cognitive biases. Almost all of her evidence is anecdotal--"I wanted to be fat, so it's probably something most people feel" or "I remember hearing women say they wanted to be fat, so most of them must feel that way." Confirmation bias: humans remember that which conforms to their presuppositions, and ignore that which does not.

What I think is more likely is that black women, being a racially oppressed minority, garner more social support from each other than do white women. As a result, their bodies are generally praised, regardless of what they look like. Being proud of your body is something that is almost necessary when the entire issue of racial discrimination is centered around what you look like (i.e. your skin color). In other words, black communities are less self-critical of their members' looks, because being critical of how they look is exactly the issue that they're fighting AGAINST.

The result is that fat black people are not selectively targeted for humiliation, as are commonly white people, and less pressure is on them to change the way they look. The unfortunate result is an increased prevalence of weight-related problems, such as diabetes and cardiovascular problems. Compound this with the fact that blacks generally fall into lower income brackets, and those in lower income brackets eat less healthy in general, and we have a weight issue that is a combination of culture and socioeconomic status.

The issue is not as simple as the article leads us to believe, and I actually dislike the message. Black people don't want to be fat. They know it's not healthy, and saying that they want to be fat seems almost racist to me.
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
May 14 2012 14:11 GMT
#11
arent everyone in america fat?

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heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
May 14 2012 14:13 GMT
#12
uhh...what did I just read?

I am stupefied right now...
wat wat in my pants
Damrak
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands124 Posts
May 14 2012 14:15 GMT
#13
Title sounds as if all black women are fat.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44618 Posts
May 14 2012 14:15 GMT
#14
I pretty much agree with every single post above me lol.

But also, I find it silly that some people try to justify obesity when we know it causes health problems.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
nymfaw
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway430 Posts
May 14 2012 14:20 GMT
#15
On May 14 2012 23:11 AgentChaos wrote:
arent everyone in america fat?


but you are from United Kingdom so I guess you all have something in common, hurray for u
Everything will be ok in the end. if it's not ok, its not the end.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 14 2012 14:20 GMT
#16

It's a conspiracy by rappers. They are evil chauvinists and want hoes to have big butts
A backwards poet writes inverse.
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
May 14 2012 14:20 GMT
#17
On May 14 2012 23:11 AgentChaos wrote:
arent everyone in america fat?


it only took 10 posts.....
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
May 14 2012 14:24 GMT
#18
Maybe they just have an even worse eating culture than white americans 0.o
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
legendstormcrow
Profile Joined May 2011
United States44 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 14:27:34
May 14 2012 14:24 GMT
#19
On May 14 2012 23:20 nymfaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 23:11 AgentChaos wrote:
arent everyone in america fat?


but you are from United Kingdom so I guess you all have something in common, hurray for u

We are fat becuase we have good dentists, Lol. Some British guy the other day said over the radio basically that your free dental is the same "free dental" inmates get. REMOVE DEM ALL!

1 more thing. Even fit people are considered fat becuase muscle puts them over the indexes for being obese. Me? I call mine natural body armor and it serves me better then the lowgrade kevlar I put up with.
Born on Friday the 13th. Well... That explains alot...
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 14:26:43
May 14 2012 14:26 GMT
#20
Is she serious? I think that most Black Women just like most others cares more about getting a relationship than following some random ideology.
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