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legendstormcrow
United States44 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:53 Deadeight wrote: My thoughts exactly. There may exist a culture that likes a big bum, but that's different to being over 200lbs. They just eat crap and way too much of it. Even if I was in shape I'd be over 200 pounds. I only have like 35 pounds of fat. Last i checked I was like 279. | ||
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sOda~
United Kingdom441 Posts
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:54 Deadeight wrote: Yeah but couldn't you just eat less of it? If the food is more calorific, eat less of it. Then "Calories In" < "Calories Out" and you lose weight. Unfortunately this simple logic doesn't really work for most people. | ||
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dpurple
Turkmenistan592 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:53 unteqair wrote: It is true, but only because blacks tend to grow up in environments that don't foster the skills that iq tests measure. It's nothing genetic; there is more genetic variation within races than between. And it's not even a causal relationship, the whole iq obesity thing, I mean. You don't need to be adjusted to solving puzzles to figure out what happens when you eat a lot of junk. What does that mean? | ||
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KingAce
United States471 Posts
Generally this is a poverty issue that trickles down. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Fucking ridiculous. I'm not the kind of person to be offended but I find the topic immensely distasteful, it would be much better off closed. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:48 Pazuzu wrote: there is no scientific backup whatsoever for that statement. that is nothing but ignorance No, you are wrong. Don't make such definitive statements when you don't know. It'll stop you calling people ignorant because of your own ignorance. There is evidence that Black people have a lower IQ. However, that does not mean it's genetic or anything to do with race, as it's most likely to do with the different socio-economic circumstances black people are (unfortunately) in. I also don't like IQ as a good test of intelligence. There's a lot of info on this out there, and a very good BBC documentary. | ||
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legendstormcrow
United States44 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:53 unteqair wrote: It is true, but only because blacks tend to grow up in environments that don't foster the skills that iq tests measure. It's nothing genetic; there is more genetic variation within races than between. And it's not even a causal relationship, the whole iq obesity thing, I mean. You don't need to be adjusted to solving puzzles to figure out what happens when you eat a lot of junk. I'm dead serious in Texas more black idiots are fit then smart ones. I'll count next time i go to work to prove it. I have a huge source of morons. All I have to do is count the blacks then count the fatties. Then count how many smart black people I worked with are fat. It goes up by like 40% User was warned for this post | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:55 legendstormcrow wrote: Even if I was in shape I'd be over 200 pounds. I only have like 35 pounds of fat. Last i checked I was like 279. Yeah well I'm the similar, I'm lean and weight 92kgs because of my height/weight lifting. Perhaps I should have looked up a body fat percentage but I just guessed off what I know an average woman's weight is. I think you got my point though. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:44 solidbebe wrote: Well if it's an actual fact that black people have lower iq on average then it's not racist by any stretch of the imagination. If it's not true and he just believes they have lower iq then he would problaby be uninformed. If he was told that it's not true but he keeps believing black people are inferior in that way, then it's racism I guess. Doesn't even matter if it's racist, it's incredibly ignorant and it shows that he didn't read the OP at all. The OP explains exactly why black culture embraces obesity, and uses examples of black individuals who are doubtlessly more educated than the poster accusing them of having low IQs. I don't see how a correlation between low IQ and black people, or low IQ and obesity could be drawn from the OP. I could never understand the black fascination with overweight women, but then again, I suppose it's all cultural. In white culture, we're taught to embody/worship skinny and cute models. Very interesting how these cultural norms overwrite our natural instincts to find a good genetic mate (since I think neither obese or twig-thin girls are ideal genetically). | ||
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legendstormcrow
United States44 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:56 imallinson wrote: The article is an opinion piece backed up by anecdotal evidence and thus is kind of worthless. If you look at actual studies the largest factor by far in rates of obesity is income (source). This is mainly due to the cheapest food per calorie being exeptionally unhealthy (source). Given that there is still a lot of income inequality in black communities in the US it is a reasonable conclusion that poverty not a cultural norm is responsible for high obesity rates. EXACTLY! More black people are poor. And poor people are usually fat or very skinny. That said the criminal type is more likely to stay in shape in the lower money brackets. I suppose I may not have enough evedence any more for my previous theory becuase this is why most black people I deal with are fit and muscular. | ||
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ihaveskin
United States12 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:58 legendstormcrow wrote: I'm dead serious in Texas more black idiots are fit then smart ones. I'll count next time i go to work to prove it. I have a huge source of morons. All I have to do is count the blacks then count the fatties. Then count how many smart black people I worked with are fat. It goes up by like 40% why are you taking the liberty to respond to so many things not directed at you, i hardly think you counting the amount of black people in your work place and then applying your opinion on which ones are smart or not will be concrete enough to confirm or deny your statement. maybe your "natural body armor" is a condition of mindless replying to peoples posts on TL. imo. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:57 KingAce wrote: I thought it was due to unhealthy diets, a lot of fast food and etc. Another thing to consider is poverty attributing to this since fast food is relatively cheap and accessible. Which is actually far more important to the diabesity epidemic in America. Soda costs less than water in many cases, and certainly less than juice or any other drink it might be 'competing' with for sales. The same applies to just about all totally unhealthy food. Lack of exercise is also a major contributor. Could cultural norms within the African American community be a reinforcing factor for some? Absolutely. But if anyone thinks that overweight youth aren't victimized by their peers in black communities is full of shit. The article cited in the Op is full of anecdotal garbage masquerading as facts. It's an opinion piece so it's not like the NYT is actually reporting any of it either, it's just some educated idiot's letter to the editor. | ||
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legendstormcrow
United States44 Posts
On May 15 2012 00:00 Deadeight wrote: Yeah well I'm the similar, I'm lean and weight 92kgs because of my height/weight lifting. Perhaps I should have looked up a body fat percentage but I just guessed off what I know an average woman's weight is. I think you got my point though. On top of that most people have different body types compared to what they think is "perfect." I've seen skinny girls fail it becuase they have a B-cup. All farmers and ranchers automatically fail and most people with genetics for thicker bones fail. I have german and norwegian genes and the norse is highly evident in me. I have the shorter fingers for the cold and everything. Put me in leather and a horned helmit and you'd think I was ransacking your village. Becuase of that I can't pass an index without lossing more of my fat and half my colon. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
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legendstormcrow
United States44 Posts
On May 15 2012 00:01 ihaveskin wrote: why are you taking the liberty to respond to so many things not directed at you, i hardly think you counting the amount of black people in your work place and then applying your opinion on which ones are smart or not will be concrete enough to confirm or deny your statement. maybe your "natural body armor" is a condition of mindless replying to peoples posts on TL. imo. Its a discusion and an open one. Also I work HS in corrections so I have plenty of idiots to contend with. The fact they fell all that distance and scream the N word at each other all day is enough. It is hard to get to HS in Texas. | ||
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legendstormcrow
United States44 Posts
On May 15 2012 00:07 Meteora.GB wrote: I have a hard time imagining that there are any links between African-American slavery and the women being fat. Its an interesting perspective but in this day and age its very rare for someone to have their life devoted to a political stance or cause, especially one that may hinder their image or day to day life. To me it seems and sounds just like a lame excuse. I think You'd be right. Its not like the "Real Goth" versus the "poser" where the goth will become fat to set themself apart, though they claim its to go against social norms. | ||
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Kasu
United Kingdom345 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:32 legendstormcrow wrote: British dental sucks causing bad teeth becuase they just remove teeth like in prison. Also fat is more effective then thrust vests with low grade kevlar becuase fat covers more and you can't just jab below fat. Actually http://www.economist.com/node/15060097?subjectid=7933596&story_id=15060097 Britain has the best teeth in the world (health-wise) according to this study. We just don't have the same association between perfect white teeth and beauty that makes teeth a bigger deal in the US. | ||
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