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Hey guys good reading, I'm not asking why I lost this game, but how to kill this specific strategy.
As a Zerg player, I'm sure we all wish that we switched to terrans because of reasons like this:
http://i.imgur.com/6nlLI.jpg
This terran got 6 bases on Shattered Temple. I couldnt out expand him, since the map is split in half.
They do this turtle-expo static defense thing on every fucking map. TalDarim is the worse, though. They get about 10 bases and make planetary with 7 turrets, a bunker with four marines and he walls off to boot. I've tried brood lords, but they don't work since the terrans army is right there, ready to defend. Ultralisks dont work, since its walled off and, again, there is a terran army that is willing to 1a2a3a on over in order to defend.
So, Zergs, how do you kill this shit like I linked in the replay? Happens every game, and Zerg cant do an equivelant of that without being retarded.
EDIT: Ignore my bad macro, thats not why I lost. I lost this game and all my other late late game ZvTs because he can get all the bases he wants and make them practically invincible.
Banelings work yes, but if he counter attacks, I die. Besides, he walls. I would need about ~38 banelings to kill the barracks, the bunker and the planetary.
Double EDIT: I dont need to post a replay, I mean how do I kill crap like this in general?
Triple EDIT: My macro was fine, that screenshot was when i was saving up for tier 3 units, ultras banes festors etc.
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Your macro was horrendous compared to that terran. if you spent all that money on broods and infestors, maybe you wouldnt complain. And Lol, ladder is infested with zergs, idk what you're talking about. Zergs arent switching to terran en masse.
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On January 11 2012 10:01 deber459 wrote:
Your macro was horrendous compared to that terran. if you spent all that money on broods and infestors, maybe you wouldnt complain. And Lol, ladder is infested with zergs, idk what you're talking about. Zergs arent switching to terran en masse.
Thats not what I was talking about. Read the OP instead of clicking the link and being like "LAWL BAD MACRO"
My macro was fine, that screenshot was when i was saving up for tier 3 units, ultras banes festors etc.
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Without a replay, it's hard to tell what's happening....... That link also showed nothing but bad macro lol.
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I dont see a replay whatsoever
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On January 11 2012 10:03 deber459 wrote:
Without a replay, it's hard to tell what's happening.......
I am not talking about this specific game, I am talking about in general.
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EDIT
There's a lot of things that can lead up to that point that are avoidable, which is why a replay is usually a good idea when asking for help.
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lol
you basically say 'dont help me, just listen to me QQ'
also, broodlords are good
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On January 11 2012 10:04 halfies wrote:
lol
you basically say 'dont help me, just listen to me QQ'
also, broodlords are good
Well, banelings are inefficent and he can defend it vs Broods/Ultas if he has the right army. Those are the two ways people tell me to defend it.
I want help, its just those specific ways dont work.
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If that's a serious question: Broodlords. They outrange everything there. Just stay outside fo range and kill it slowly and painfully.
Terran has to react with his army .. and then you hopefully have an army too.
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On January 11 2012 10:03 Lebzetu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 10:03 deber459 wrote:
Without a replay, it's hard to tell what's happening....... I am not talking about this specific game, I am talking about in general.
In general, it is depedent on the game and on the player(s).
Post the replay, it's always your fault, not the opponent (because you can't change how the opponent plays, you can only improve yourself).
In general, it's because of bad Macro lol
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Ignore my bad macro, thats not why I lost.
Actually, that probably is why you lost.
In the screenshot, you can see the Terran wasted a lot of minerals on static defense, and is not even mining at full capacity from that base.
Additionally, we can not help you with your problems unless you provide replays. What league are you in? If below Masters, judging by the screenshot, I assume you are, you certainly must work on your macro. Believing that "it's not my macro" is only worsening your problem, and eventually you will fall into a downward spiral of losing and self-hate.
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Since you're being vague with the description, I'll be vague with an answer - Play better than your opponent? Don't let him get so many bases up?
Replays will help people determine faults in your play, not just in ONE game - but in your play in general. Upload multiple replays if you are getting pwnt by Terran's "every fucking map" and people can help you
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On January 11 2012 10:05 Lebzetu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 10:04 halfies wrote:
lol
you basically say 'dont help me, just listen to me QQ'
also, broodlords are good Well, banelings are inefficent and he can defend it vs Broods/Ultas if he has the right army. Those are the two ways people tell me to defend it. I want help, its just those specific ways dont work.
Youre not being specific at all, but want detailed and specific responses.
Good one
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On January 11 2012 10:06 JrClimbers wrote:Actually, that probably is why you lost. In the screenshot, you can see the Terran wasted a lot of minerals on static defense, and is not even mining at full capacity from that base. Additionally, we can not help you with your problems unless you provide replays. What league are you in? If below Masters, judging by the screenshot, I assume you are, you certainly must work on your macro. Believing that "it's not my macro" is only worsening your problem, and eventually you will fall into a downward spiral of losing and self-hate.
On January 11 2012 10:02 Lebzetu wrote:
My macro was fine, that screenshot was when i was saving up for tier 3 units, ultras banes festors etc.
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On January 11 2012 10:07 Lebzetu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 10:06 JrClimbers wrote:Ignore my bad macro, thats not why I lost. Actually, that probably is why you lost. In the screenshot, you can see the Terran wasted a lot of minerals on static defense, and is not even mining at full capacity from that base. Additionally, we can not help you with your problems unless you provide replays. What league are you in? If below Masters, judging by the screenshot, I assume you are, you certainly must work on your macro. Believing that "it's not my macro" is only worsening your problem, and eventually you will fall into a downward spiral of losing and self-hate. Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 10:02 Lebzetu wrote:
My macro was fine, that screenshot was when i was saving up for tier 3 units, ultras banes festors etc.
Your macro wasn't fine. We don't take your word on it and if you want our word, you better provide proof behind your claim.
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Eh, brood lords will definitely help with a side of infestors. And yes, better macro would've helped a lot.
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hmm, 5K/2K is really good macro when you're not maxed.........
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The classic “Why did I lose this game?”. For these threads it is absolutely required that you post a replay. No exceptions. Nobody is going to be able to help you if you won’t post a replay.
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On January 11 2012 10:09 deber459 wrote:
hmm, 5K/2K is really good macro when you're not maxed.........
yeah, good reading.
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