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On January 11 2012 10:05 Lebzetu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 10:04 halfies wrote:
lol
you basically say 'dont help me, just listen to me QQ'
also, broodlords are good Well, banelings are inefficent and he can defend it vs Broods/Ultas if he has the right army. Those are the two ways people tell me to defend it. I want help, its just those specific ways dont work.
they dont work because you have crap macro to back it up.
baneling inefficiency doesn't matter when you have 2 more bases and 2 macro hatches.
post a replay if you actually want help.
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Put yourself in better situation and macro better to start with. (post a replay or we can't help)
It's like saying: How do I win this and I post a picture when I'm (Z) is on 1 base and the terran got 5 bunkers below my ramp. It's what's leading up to it that matters.
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On January 11 2012 10:16 Lebzetu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 10:13 Torte de Lini wrote:On January 11 2012 10:11 Lebzetu wrote:On January 11 2012 10:10 a176 wrote:The classic “Why did I lose this game?”. For these threads it is absolutely required that you post a replay. No exceptions. Nobody is going to be able to help you if you won’t post a replay. Too bad im not asking why I lost a game, Im talking about this strategy in general. "In a [Q] thread you may ask about a specific, situational strategy, whether that is executing it yourself of playing against it. It is very important that you keep these threads specific. A general "How to FE against Zerg?" is not acceptable. This is the most important distinction from the [H] threads. As with [H] thread you must post one or several replays. " The answer is: have better macroGeneral questions, get general answers. Poor macro. What if I blacked out the resources? Would you still say bad macro?
Maybe not, but it'd still be true, lol.
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On January 11 2012 10:26 Lebzetu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 10:20 saltymango wrote:
ok so basicly his strategy is macro. so the hardest counter to this would be macro better. Good response, I understand that. Problem is that he split the map in half by doing this to his third (on the gold), his fourth, fifth, and sixth.
then i guess the fault is you let him take his third, 4th, 5th, 6th so easily.
unless he massed vikings, i'm not sure how broods would not work. even just sending 3-4 to two bases each would be enough, and use your main army to take him out while he reposition to defend against broods.
now, if you didnt have broods by the time he had 6 bases, fault would be macro.
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to kill the reinforced base in your picture: broodlords.
if you want to know what to do when his army comes out, show us a replay so we can see what his army consists of. using a single picture is an awful way to ask a question. likely, the answer will be broodlord, infestor, corruptor anyways. so....
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ur macro is bad dude, fix that and u can beat terrans ezpz
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Do you realize you have infestors? You can make a ton of infested Terrans, lose no minerals and continually harass?
He has no AA, +1 mutas and 10 mutas takes out all those turrents easily.
You can use lings to kill all those AA before the planetary kills them all and then mutas rape.
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I'm no expert on ZvT, but I've been here long enough to realize that any strategy is invincible if there is no replay. Players beat players, not strats beat strats or Race beats race. The ZvT experts can give you vague answers like they have here, but of course there will always be some negative or problem with them (If there was no weakness to going banelings as an example, it would be T that would be saying, "how the fuck do I beat this T strat?") Until they see a replay, we're all just wasting time.
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I main Z and play a lot of T and Random, and TvZ is BY FAR my most difficult matchup in the game. Not so coincidentally, ZvT is my best matchup. Unless T puts constant pressure on Z, T WILL get rolled. If T's macro isn't better, T will get rolled. If T's decision making isn't better, T will get rolled.
Stop whining about a given strat (in this case, 6 base turtle... wtf...) and improve your macro and decision making. And lmao @ floating 5k minerals but claiming your macro is not the problem. At that point you might as well take 30 drones and cover the middle of the map with spines to slow any pushes.
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If he makes all those bases without you doing anything about it, you probably didn't have vision of the map. You're telling us he expertly deflected your attempts to deny his expansions, or he did it when you weren't paying attention? PFs don't build instantly, hell they cant even be lifted into place.
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On January 11 2012 10:26 Lebzetu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 10:20 saltymango wrote:
ok so basicly his strategy is macro. so the hardest counter to this would be macro better. Good response, I understand that. Problem is that he split the map in half by doing this to his third (on the gold), his fourth, fifth, and sixth.
This creates a problem for him, ruining his good fortune and strengthening thy possibilities. Air harassment shall be strong, for he relies in unmoving, fixed towers and can be defeated by concentrating on where he is weak. Go now, fair Zerg, and post thy replay as an example of thy difficulties.
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#1 Turn up the details, we have 2012!
#2 If Terrans turtle like crazy just expand all over the place or drop their main...
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PS, you should change the OP from "How the fk do I kill this" to - "How can I let my macro slip for 10 minutes and allow my terran opponent to get 6 bases but still win". As my jiu jitsu coach says when students ask how to escape certain positions, "don't let him get it in the first place".
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I don't understand why you're still making horrible threads in the SC2 strategy forum despite numerous warnings.
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EPT
