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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 08 2005 07:50 GMT
#1
OLD version (1.2):
[image loading]


NEW version (1.3):
[image loading]


Changes:
- wider choke (naturally )
- bases at 3 and 9 have broken-up cliffs surrounding them
- 1 less mineral at top-right and bottom-left expos
- a few more doodads around the centre

Download Obs Version

Better? Or worse?
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-08 07:53:48
June 08 2005 07:53 GMT
#2
first floor

edit: I will comment once the pics load.
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
Sean.G
Profile Joined October 2004
Spain889 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-08 07:56:18
June 08 2005 07:54 GMT
#3
I think all the changes are ok besides the choke thing.. why would you want it wider?

I liked the narrow choke, it was what made Ash Rose Ash Rose. Now it's something else :p
"He is fighting in this match like we've never seen a terran player fight before. He is fighting as hard as Orlando Bloom fights for the affections of Keira Knightly in Pirates of the Caribbean 3, and hopefully he'll have more success" - Klazart
SatAere
Profile Joined April 2005
United States396 Posts
June 08 2005 07:59 GMT
#4
gj ... good call to stop that u can lurk cliff with no drop ...
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SatAere
Profile Joined April 2005
United States396 Posts
June 08 2005 08:00 GMT
#5
oh ya ... NOW WE CALL RE Zeus Vs Mondy ;-)
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ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
June 08 2005 08:03 GMT
#6
good changes, except I don't know why you made the choke wider (not saying it's bad)

is it to make it harder to camp with your main + nat?
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
June 08 2005 08:05 GMT
#7
On June 08 2005 16:59 SatAere wrote:
gj ... good call to stop that u can lurk cliff with no drop ...


Agreed, that was the main reason I hated/barely ever played that map -_-.
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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-08 08:11:08
June 08 2005 08:09 GMT
#8
Actually you can still hit half the minerals with lurks, but I can change that too .

I changed the choke because of http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=28146
Sean.G
Profile Joined October 2004
Spain889 Posts
June 08 2005 08:18 GMT
#9
Because testie could defend so easily?

Ok I get it, you don't like testie?

anyways, I don't think you should've changed it.

It's still fairly easy too defend anyways.. it's not like "oh shit its a bit wider now let me run straight into all those cannons with my hydras"

A map is a map, if you fuck too much with it it's not the same map anymore! Changing a few things like adding doodads and such are ok.. but the width of that entrance is important, and therefore I think it would be wrong to change it. Just my opinion :p
"He is fighting in this match like we've never seen a terran player fight before. He is fighting as hard as Orlando Bloom fights for the affections of Keira Knightly in Pirates of the Caribbean 3, and hopefully he'll have more success" - Klazart
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
June 08 2005 08:40 GMT
#10
On June 08 2005 17:18 Sean.G wrote:
Because testie could defend so easily?

I'd have said because it's so easy to contain instead :p
Sean.G
Profile Joined October 2004
Spain889 Posts
June 08 2005 08:47 GMT
#11
On June 08 2005 17:40 Catyoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2005 17:18 Sean.G wrote:
Because testie could defend so easily?

I'd have said because it's so easy to contain instead :p


Ok, he hates breakdown then
"He is fighting in this match like we've never seen a terran player fight before. He is fighting as hard as Orlando Bloom fights for the affections of Keira Knightly in Pirates of the Caribbean 3, and hopefully he'll have more success" - Klazart
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
June 08 2005 09:20 GMT
#12
Do you really think that bill having done tons of maps, would only change a map because he "loves" or "hates" (over the internet btw) someone?
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 08 2005 09:28 GMT
#13
Excellent changes IMHO. Unlike others I LOVE the widening of the choke. This didn't make the map loss any of it's personality, it just made breaking out of contains far more resonable. And the slight nerfing of lurk cliffing is good too. Don't treat this as a big change people. The lurks still hit so it doesn't eliminate the tactic.

For god sakes, you still can't build any cannons at the gas nat up the ramp, so he isn't making it THAT P friendly...Do you want PvZ to be impossible? I don't see any good reasons to keep it so tiny.

Nice changes.
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Sorrow_eyes
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1007 Posts
June 08 2005 09:39 GMT
#14
hmmm, wouldnt PvT P getting owned at the rose bud? I mean they have to go spiral to come in the middle T_T and soo many cliffing possible T_T poor toss.
to ihatett rofl first floor >.<
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boongee
Profile Joined November 2004
United States967 Posts
June 08 2005 09:46 GMT
#15
The red is passable ground.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
June 08 2005 09:55 GMT
#16
On June 08 2005 18:39 Sorrow_eyes wrote:
hmmm, wouldnt PvT P getting owned at the rose bud? I mean they have to go spiral to come in the middle T_T and soo many cliffing possible T_T poor toss.
to ihatett rofl first floor >.<

You can walk over those lava things.
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
June 08 2005 10:02 GMT
#17
Bill, what program do you use to decorate? In all of your maps you are superb at it.
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
boongee
Profile Joined November 2004
United States967 Posts
June 08 2005 10:23 GMT
#18
o_O You don't need any special program to decorate. Ash Rose could have easily been made in regular Staredit.
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
June 08 2005 12:24 GMT
#19
I know that, (I only use staredit) but I was wondering if he used something else as well (like for the broken cliffs). I realize that you don't need anything else.
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
June 08 2005 19:35 GMT
#20
Map has turned to better way, I like it more now
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