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eton7410
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 01:38:29
October 24 2011 17:20 GMT
#1

Mod Edit

Nothing has been confirmed, except that Reality and Turn were caught playing for amateur players in an amateur tournament. Connections to betting sites, payment, etc have not been confirmed.


Original post:

Basically, Reality and Turn were caught subsituting amateur players in the BnW(hosted by Brain Clan) final. However, it was found that there was a betting company behind the whole situation, and the money involved was more than ten million Korean Woon. Reality and Turn already admited that crime. Samsung Khan had checked player's bank account, and there was no strange transactions. However, Brain Clan said that they had evidence of the underground exchange and they hinted that this was not the first time. The whole situation is stil under investigation, but as a BW fan I am greatly disappointed.
Source: wfbrood, PGR, plu


Speculation from 1a2a3a:
On October 25 2011 04:55 supernovamaniac wrote:
then again, 1a2a3a had a funny history with GanziTerran (fish 2000 ladder until it was sold to the alledged "broker")

I was going to write up a translation of wtf happened, but I did not for the sake of spreading false rumors.

Some background (as far as I heard from 1a2a3a):
GanziTerran and 1a2a3a weren't very close; infact 1a2a3a hated GanziTerran. 1a2a3a thought that Ganzi was Reality so he goes onto West, Reality says: If I'm Ganzi I'm going to quit Progaming.

But later Ganzi and 1a2a3a became close after doing some 2v2s. Ganzi joins team NeOx (Scan's current Korean clan, along with 1a2a3a). In their match against some other team, Ganzi plays amazingly well but then loses the match, apologizes to the team, and tries to leave. HOWEVER, the backstory was that Ganzi had a request from the opposing team join the clan after the clanwar. So seems like Ganzi lost on purpose in order to quit NeOx, few negotiations behind the scene, and Ganzi stays on NeOx.

Then again, Ganzi just shows up and disappears in the scene few times. There were some events in the middle (which lead to Reality and TurN confirming something for GanziTerran) which lead to BrainSlayeR (admin of BrainClan) to suspect something wrong here. Nonetheless, in Brain ClanWar finals, NeOx sends out GanziTerran thinking that its TurN. TURNS OUT, GanziTerran at the time was used by a SKT T1 B-Team player, so clan NeOx gets DQ'd and loses their championship (this happened week ago). After finding this out, 1a2a3a flips out, BrainSlayeR gives his 'evidence' of the "SO CALLED MATCH FIXING/PLAYING UNDER SOMEONE ELSE'S ACCOUNT FOR MONEY" to 1a2a3a, 1a2a3a makes it public.

Problem got out of hand as 1a2a3a just started bashing Khan and those two players who were involved; don't quite remember where the 'broker' for match fixing came into play, but I've read somewhere that current owner of the ID of GanziTerran is related to some match fixing website (they said that Ganzi said himself (whoever he is) on bnet, haven't seen the evidence yet).

[below KIM GA EUL section is what I read on pgr21, not by 1a2a3a]
Kim Ga Eul shows up on pgr21 saying that they aren't aware of any 'scandal' at the moment and said that they've confirmed themselves that there weren't any problems with the two players (after Khan's coach talked with Reality and TurN). (However, I couldn't verify that it was actual Kim Ga Eul, need to do some IP checking)

Day later, 1a2a3a says that the players have been punished, but we don't know on what basis or for what reason.

Sums up the situation so far.


(I'll edit/post more detailed version later, as I have to read again to make sure I got the stuff down right)

[again from 1a2a3a]
GanziTerran: 2000 Fish player. Seems like Reality had the ID for a long time, when a person known for smurfing comes up and says that he wants to buy the ID from GanziTerran for a high price. "Reality" (if he was the original owner). The person who bought the ID then paid few progamers and made them use the ID GanziTerran in order to hide that a non-progamer owned the ID. Then, when GanziTerran was being used by a SKT T1 B-Team gamer in the finals of BrainClanWars final, BrainClan caught them in action


Disclaimer: RUMORS ARE RUMORS. UNLESS THERE'S OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT BY TEAMS AND/OR OTHER VISIBLE SIGNS THAT WE CAN 100% VERIFY, THE 'SCANDAL' ITSELF IS A RUMOR.

Main source: some PGR21 articles listed here
http://pgr21.com/zboard4/zboard.php?id=free2&page=1&sn1=&divpage=8&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=45736

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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 17:22:20
October 24 2011 17:21 GMT
#2
Well shit. Thought people learned their lesson after the first round of match fixing.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
October 24 2011 17:22 GMT
#3
oh nuuuu! If Reality and Turn got in trouble like Ma that would spell disaster for Khan...
jaedong imba
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1974 Posts
October 24 2011 17:22 GMT
#4
Source?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 17:23:33
October 24 2011 17:23 GMT
#5
Has it been confirmed?from what I know its just rumors, I even heard that January is might be sueing Brainclan and 1a2a3a. We also have no source or anything for this.
WriterXiao8~~
ponzi
Profile Joined May 2011
65 Posts
October 24 2011 17:24 GMT
#6
Aww crap. Last time this happened broodwar took a heavy blow. At least this incident had a much smaller scope, but it's still it's bad. Hopefully most fans don't lose hope.
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
October 24 2011 17:25 GMT
#7
WTF.....no....not again....
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
October 24 2011 17:25 GMT
#8
I saw this on wfbrood, but I was hoping this wasn't true.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
October 24 2011 17:26 GMT
#9
I really want some links to actual posts/news before I jump to any conclusions.. Looks grim though
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 24 2011 17:26 GMT
#10
Son of a bitch... not again...
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
October 24 2011 17:26 GMT
#11
Wtf...you gotta be shitting me.

Reality is a solid rookie, he just needs time.

And Turn has plenty of potential as well. His aggression is top of the line.

Dammit all. Source?
Confirmed?
(((
The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
October 24 2011 17:26 GMT
#12
More than anything else this shit is what is killing BW.

Fuck it, I was hoping after the other deal they had learned.
♪♫♫ We all stand together! ♪♫♪
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 17:29:16
October 24 2011 17:28 GMT
#13
On October 25 2011 02:26 Aeres wrote:
Son of a bitch... not again...

I know, bloody hell when I saw the title I double face palmed. But let's just see where this goes, it's still being investigated. Dammit Turn and Reality, why...

I really like turn as well :/
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
October 24 2011 17:28 GMT
#14
For the love of god i really hope this is just a bullshit rumour. I can't believe their stupidity if they really pulled this sort of shit off. Even if its an amateur tournament there is no excuse or reason to be cheating in any shape or form.

Goddammit i hope its false.
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
October 24 2011 17:29 GMT
#15
Dammit man! Cant you see your killing E-sports ((((((
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 17:43:07
October 24 2011 17:33 GMT
#16
Noooooooooooooo, Khan ;____;

Why can't people just learn lessons from other peoples' fuck ups? Do they WANT to end up like savior or the others that were banned? ugh.

EDIT:

Took a peek around fomos to see if there would be any articles on this, but nothing so far. But apparently Hiya's dad just passed away... T___T lots of sad news all around.
Writer:o
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 24 2011 17:34 GMT
#17
August is supposed to be over

T.T.
WriterXiao8~~
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
October 24 2011 17:35 GMT
#18
Oh fuck no. I really hope this isn't the case!
This seems to be purely based on accusations by brainclan, so I'm not gonna rage quite yet.
화이팅
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 24 2011 17:35 GMT
#19
On October 25 2011 02:29 Merfyn wrote:
Dammit man! Cant you see your killing E-sports ((((((


Heh, I'd agree that its unfortunate, but it isn't killing E-Sports, I mean any competitive scene has abusers and what not, they just cause a lot of commotion but don't really kill the sport, kind of like steroids in real sports.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
October 24 2011 17:36 GMT
#20
Umm.......... this sucks. Everything will be ok though, don't worry BW lovers.
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