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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
October 24 2011 17:52 GMT
#41
This sucks =/

Not what BW needs right now.
We make signature, then defense it.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 24 2011 17:53 GMT
#42
pretty awful/misleading thread title, this smurfing is in no way comparable to the savior incident
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
October 24 2011 17:55 GMT
#43
On October 25 2011 02:53 sixfour wrote:
pretty awful/misleading thread title, this smurfing is in no way comparable to the savior incident


Yeah, but they might be smurfing as amateurs to get paid by a betting organization, so it is kind of a big deal.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 24 2011 17:56 GMT
#44
On October 25 2011 02:51 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 02:40 Milkis wrote:
source please.

I think these are the articles the OP is referring to:

http://bbs.wfbrood.com/thread-32691-1-1.html
http://sc.plu.cn/note/2011-10-24/35418.html

They don't have a link to a Korean source though...


Maybe because there isn't one. That's why I'm finding it a little doubtful. Neither fomos nor DES have anything about it, and it's hard to believe a Chinese site would know about these things faster than the two largest Korean esports sites.

Then again, it's 3AM here; there might be something in the morning. God I hope not
Writer:o
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 24 2011 17:56 GMT
#45
On October 25 2011 02:48 Emporio wrote:
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On October 25 2011 02:46 BroodWarHD wrote:
Damn.. I hope Savior's hand isnt involved again

Actually it would probably be better if he was involved. It would put people's hate on a single person they already hate, rather than a suspicion that all the players now have forgotten about the past and are becoming untrustworthy.


I doubt he has anything to do with this though. There's no way he has this much guts to do something like this.


Would be pretty ironic now. isn't he studying criminal law or something?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
October 24 2011 17:57 GMT
#46
BW noooooooo!!!

Not like this...
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
Onox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 17:59:20
October 24 2011 17:59 GMT
#47
Again, seriously?
What a joke.
Hope this isn't true.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
October 24 2011 17:59 GMT
#48
No, please don't be true. This would mean the end of Khan's hopes for playoffs. Khan without Reality and Turn would be very weak.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 24 2011 18:03 GMT
#49
On October 25 2011 02:55 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 02:53 sixfour wrote:
pretty awful/misleading thread title, this smurfing is in no way comparable to the savior incident


Yeah, but they might be smurfing as amateurs to get paid by a betting organization, so it is kind of a big deal.


not saying it isn't important, just not at all comparable. in football/soccer, when a team fields an ineligible player they usually get a points deduction, and/or are required to forfeit/replay the game dependent on the competition. nothing really happens to the player, might get suspended for a short time or something. if a team/player's actually match fixing the player'd be banned for life and/or the team expelled.

or, to put it the severity of these into visual form, ripping off a perfectly good image from the people that bring us the friday night smoke:

[image loading]
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
October 24 2011 18:05 GMT
#50
Heh. I knew about this for awhile, just didn't post here because pretty much NOTHING is confirmed right now. Though the two did admit smurfing, but they say there is no money involved. It's all just accusations from 철구, a BW Afreeca broadcast junkie. If he doesn't back it up with evidence then he's gonna get sued by Samsung Khan. But then again, there were some phone calls going through during the broadcast. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Samsung Khan trying to settle things quietly. It's still pretty dissappointing that these two are taking their integrity as pro players lightly. If this turns out to be a real deal then BW is screwed.
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
October 24 2011 18:06 GMT
#51
On October 25 2011 03:03 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 02:55 bearbuddy wrote:
On October 25 2011 02:53 sixfour wrote:
pretty awful/misleading thread title, this smurfing is in no way comparable to the savior incident


Yeah, but they might be smurfing as amateurs to get paid by a betting organization, so it is kind of a big deal.


not saying it isn't important, just not at all comparable. in football/soccer, when a team fields an ineligible player they usually get a points deduction, and/or are required to forfeit/replay the game dependent on the competition. nothing really happens to the player, might get suspended for a short time or something. if a team/player's actually match fixing the player'd be banned for life and/or the team expelled.

or, to put it the severity of these into visual form, ripping off a perfectly good image from the people that bring us the friday night smoke:

[image loading]


yea but the fact is that there was a fair bit of money involved in this....
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 24 2011 18:06 GMT
#52
:'(

Such promising rookies
In the woods, there lurks..
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
October 24 2011 18:07 GMT
#53
I really liked Turn and Reality... damn...
Jaedong and Baby
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 24 2011 18:09 GMT
#54
On October 25 2011 03:06 pStar wrote:

yea but the fact is that there was a fair bit of money involved in this....


op states 10 million won, which is what, less than $10k? in the world of far eastern betting that's not actually that much at all
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
October 24 2011 18:10 GMT
#55
On October 25 2011 03:09 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 03:06 pStar wrote:

yea but the fact is that there was a fair bit of money involved in this....


op states 10 million won, which is what, less than $10k? in the world of far eastern betting that's not actually that much at all


Yea, its about 10k.

Still enough to cause a massive scandal though.

Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
October 24 2011 18:11 GMT
#56
I was hoping to see a new Proleague schedule, not this. Such miserable news, lately.
I hope this turns out to be false.
Reality... his amazing series against Jaedong.
BW
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
October 24 2011 18:12 GMT
#57
On October 25 2011 03:03 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 02:55 bearbuddy wrote:
On October 25 2011 02:53 sixfour wrote:
pretty awful/misleading thread title, this smurfing is in no way comparable to the savior incident


Yeah, but they might be smurfing as amateurs to get paid by a betting organization, so it is kind of a big deal.


not saying it isn't important, just not at all comparable. in football/soccer, when a team fields an ineligible player they usually get a points deduction, and/or are required to forfeit/replay the game dependent on the competition. nothing really happens to the player, might get suspended for a short time or something. if a team/player's actually match fixing the player'd be banned for life and/or the team expelled.

or, to put it the severity of these into visual form, ripping off a perfectly good image from the people that bring us the friday night smoke:

[image loading]


Yeah, but it's not fielding an ineligible player. That would be like Samsung fielding Great a while ago when he hasn't received his full pro status yet, where the whole thing blew over without much of an incident.

This is with money involved. So, while still not as big as the whole Savior incident, it's not just a bump in the road either. The Chinese article I read from Plu stated that police/authority confirmed that there's some sort of gambling involved in these games, and that Brainclan is accusing Reality and Turn of accepting bribes to play in them.
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
October 24 2011 18:20 GMT
#58
Is this really that bad? I mean if I understand correctly this has nothing to do with Pro Starcraft right? They might get in trouble with the laws,but I don`t think they`ll take away their licenses ?
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
October 24 2011 18:23 GMT
#59
What the funk??? No not this again. Why don't players learn their lessons??? Plus it's not like they're underpaid as well. So why always resort to something like this???
You have the power to create your own destiny.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6736 Posts
October 24 2011 18:23 GMT
#60
zzzzz is only smurf .
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