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What flamewheel said.
I'm thinking that TurN and Reality got bored cause of the insanely long break before Proleague starts again and decided to smurf for fun without actually wanting any sort of monetary rewards in return. Its bad in principle but still, not to the point where they actually participated in match fixing. Then again its all my speculation so believe it or not its up to you.
With the matchfixing scandal and the heavy punishment i'm pretty sure TurN and Reality wouldn't be idiots to risk trying to earn a few quick bucks to losing their progaming license..
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On October 25 2011 20:23 Boonbag wrote:
I guess BW betting sites in Korea are alive and doing very well.
of course, it's one of those industries that can't be rid of
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On October 25 2011 21:12 Boonbag wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 21:00 Count9 wrote:
Interesting, even if it's not true, rumors like this just reminds everyone that there are players who are only in it for the money. when you're starving your entire life in front of a computer you surely are.
i doubt they are starving
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cold hard evidence! - thats what I want!! I receive so many rumors by korean people via kakaotalk I got to meet during my time in seoul concering SC that I would have much to post about.
I somehow doubt some of the facts posted above (I got to know some more facts of this a few days ago) and without adding even more fuel, lets wait and see...
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Damn I hope they stay in BW, Turn and Reality are my favorite Terrans 
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ok, i just finished reading what ever snm wrote on the front page....
so to sum up, everything had been done through BNet, from the player contact to Khan coach confirmation on players... Sketchiest plot ever.... I know that korean do have a lot of static IP system so i hope it help. Unless they can pull some epic IP evidences, i think this case just gona slip. Anonymity on the internet is imba and cause drama 
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1a2a3a seems like a huge troll lmao. Anyway i doubt this issue is as srs as ppl arr speculating it to be.
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Dont join the dark side progamers !!!
It leads you to suffering =)
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Is smurfing into an amateur tournament really a problem if betting sites etc aren't involved ?
Seems like people are making a big deal out of something that isn't a big deal yet.
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They must be that bored to be doing this, not much of a deal here...
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On October 26 2011 00:33 SnowFantasy wrote:
Is smurfing into an amateur tournament really a problem if betting sites etc aren't involved ?
Seems like people are making a big deal out of something that isn't a big deal yet.
anything match-fixing related is a huge deal, although in this case it seems unlikely that there was any sort of match-fixing involved. Also, progamers trying to make an extra couple hundred bucks by faking their identity and playing in an amateur tournament seems wrong, so yea i'd say it's a problem.
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It was much more amusing when ElkY did it
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Yeah... I agree with Flamewheels' stance on the matter.
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On October 25 2011 11:22 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 10:52 Chef wrote:It becomes somewhat relevant if the biggest 3rd party BNet server gets involved in the case with a lot of evidence supporting their side. Not really... It's akin to JoeKim and Game bickering posts from iCCup drama. Especially considering the minilauncher that everyone has to use to play on Fish has trojans (whether or not you click no to the obvious adware) lol. I don't have too much respect for Fish sorry. Honestly you read the details and you just think 'wow this is dumb who would write this.' On the surface you have the 'omg progamers are rigging amateur tournaments???' and underneath you have this really dumb story about who gives a shit losing a game on purpose to switch clans but some other crap I don't care about and what the hell and ok none of this proves anything about pro players participating in an amateur tournament (for which it's not clear the prestige, nor clear if anyone has respect for the organization of it, nor clear why progamers would want to rig it unless they are good friends and no one cares except the Korean version of JoeKim. tl;dr: TL jumps to hilarious conclusions because we literally have nothing better to do and we've become pathetic gossip mongers. And that's not the whole point of my post either. I said that it was speculation from the beginning, if you missed that part when you started reading, stop jumping into the main details before skipping the disclaimers.
Admitting it is silly speculation doesn't make it any less silly. I don't understand why saying it is speculation is supposed to suddenly validate it's existence.
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On October 26 2011 01:24 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 11:22 supernovamaniac wrote:On October 25 2011 10:52 Chef wrote:It becomes somewhat relevant if the biggest 3rd party BNet server gets involved in the case with a lot of evidence supporting their side. Not really... It's akin to JoeKim and Game bickering posts from iCCup drama. Especially considering the minilauncher that everyone has to use to play on Fish has trojans (whether or not you click no to the obvious adware) lol. I don't have too much respect for Fish sorry. Honestly you read the details and you just think 'wow this is dumb who would write this.' On the surface you have the 'omg progamers are rigging amateur tournaments???' and underneath you have this really dumb story about who gives a shit losing a game on purpose to switch clans but some other crap I don't care about and what the hell and ok none of this proves anything about pro players participating in an amateur tournament (for which it's not clear the prestige, nor clear if anyone has respect for the organization of it, nor clear why progamers would want to rig it unless they are good friends and no one cares except the Korean version of JoeKim. tl;dr: TL jumps to hilarious conclusions because we literally have nothing better to do and we've become pathetic gossip mongers. And that's not the whole point of my post either. I said that it was speculation from the beginning, if you missed that part when you started reading, stop jumping into the main details before skipping the disclaimers. Admitting it is silly speculation doesn't make it any less silly. I don't understand why saying it is speculation is supposed to suddenly validate it's existence.
Since when did regular speculation from a person who stated the whole situation on afreeca broadcast, along with BrainClan admin BrainSlayeR a silly speculation, if they showed some evidence on pgr21.com and other websites already?
And since when did 'speculations' become 'silly speculations'?
Seems like you're taking every 'post' from 1a2a3a and BrainSlayeR a silly speculation, which is fine. Doesn't mean that I can't post these speculations nor shouldn't post them here because this is the only information that we have on the current 'situation'. Rather, you tend to think that these speculations are conclusions or some baseless speculations, both of which is not at this moment.
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So did anything actually come of this? I am still confused as to what actually happened : S
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Bored or not, if people were betting money, it doesn't look good for the Khan Terrans. I suppose the scope is a little smaller than match fixing in the SPL, but these guys should know better
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Wah....I was such a big TurN fan as well =3= I'm gonna cry if this is true
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It's an amateur tournament, not really comparable to the savior incident. Besides I doubt they took money, more likely they just smurfed for fun.
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