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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
October 24 2011 23:20 GMT
#121
Jesus christ!

Brood War is finally stabilizing after a long fall, and was thus primed to start turning things around when the economy improved. This is literally the worst possible time for this shit.
oldfartz
Profile Joined October 2011
Philippines117 Posts
October 24 2011 23:26 GMT
#122
man like i said in the "skill level is increasing thread.." the patterns here are eerily similar to what poker players are experiencing in online poker lol
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 24 2011 23:47 GMT
#123
You guys know that there are always a tonne of dumb rumours going around right? Just because it's translated from Korean doesn't make it reliable. This is so a 'who cares' kind of thing.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 00:05:31
October 24 2011 23:56 GMT
#124
Whatever happens, whatever the truth is, we all lose here =(

I'll be doing some surfing right now to see what's up.
*checked Fomos, DES, PlayXP, ThisIsGame, plus searched on Daum and Naver - and found no official news releases or articles, just a couple personal blogs with short posts that pretty much says the same thing said in the OP.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
October 25 2011 00:02 GMT
#125


Noooooooo
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
October 25 2011 01:03 GMT
#126
khan is looking really thin if these guys are punished. I mean there not a contender for the championship either way, but a line up of 4 protosses, juni , and sharp is really bad.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 01:25:19
October 25 2011 01:16 GMT
#127
On October 25 2011 07:19 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
The person who bought the ID then paid few progamers and made them use the ID GanziTerran in order to hide that a non-progamer owned the ID


sorry, the post is kind of convoluted. 'few progamers' is Reality and Turn? Or Reality the original owner and the identities of the smurfs is still unknown?


[POST BETWEEN THE QUOTES ARE RUMORS FROM THE SUMMARIZED POV OF 1A2A3A]
Seems like the original owner was Reality.

The owner (broker of betting website according to 1a2a3a) decided to pay some other progamers to hide the fact that GanziTerran has been bought; paid few players to play on the account, which seemingly included TurN and possibly Reality, some SKT T1 B-teamer, and one other name that I shall not mention directly (REMEMBER: ITS A GOD DAMN RUMOR still)
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On October 25 2011 08:47 Chef wrote:
You guys know that there are always a tonne of dumb rumours going around right? Just because it's translated from Korean doesn't make it reliable. This is so a 'who cares' kind of thing.

It becomes somewhat relevant if the biggest 3rd party BNet server gets involved in the case with a lot of evidence supporting their side.



In any case, seems like the verdict amongst fomos users at the moment is: TurN and Reality did not know that GanziTerran was involved with SCBW betting websites, if GanziTerran turns out to be a broker. That's the general post atm; however we don't know what happened 100%. 1a2a3a got too ahead of himself and tried to ban these players for 'Match fixing' which they were not involved in.
ppp
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10139 Posts
October 25 2011 01:20 GMT
#128
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!! NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! NOT AGAIN!!! AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!! RRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE!!!!

why... T.T
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
October 25 2011 01:28 GMT
#129
WTF not this again.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
October 25 2011 01:29 GMT
#130
Not as bad as last time, but since it still happened, NO!!!
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
October 25 2011 01:35 GMT
#131
So can kespa ban/suspend them for smurfing?

Because that would eff Khan's lineup.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
October 25 2011 01:41 GMT
#132
Wait, so if Reality sold the ID, how is he being pegged down for participating in the tournament? I don't get it.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 01:55:05
October 25 2011 01:52 GMT
#133
It becomes somewhat relevant if the biggest 3rd party BNet server gets involved in the case with a lot of evidence supporting their side.

Not really... It's akin to JoeKim and Game bickering posts from iCCup drama. Especially considering the minilauncher that everyone has to use to play on Fish has trojans (whether or not you click no to the obvious adware) lol. I don't have too much respect for Fish sorry.

Honestly you read the details and you just think 'wow this is dumb who would write this.' On the surface you have the 'omg progamers are rigging amateur tournaments???' and underneath you have this really dumb story about who gives a shit losing a game on purpose to switch clans but some other crap I don't care about and what the hell and ok none of this proves anything about pro players participating in an amateur tournament (for which it's not clear the prestige, nor clear if anyone has respect for the organization of it, nor clear why progamers would want to rig it unless they are good friends and no one cares except the Korean version of JoeKim.

tl;dr: TL jumps to hilarious conclusions because we literally have nothing better to do and we've become pathetic gossip mongers.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 25 2011 01:55 GMT
#134
Sounds like Terror prematurely flipping the shit here...
It all seems hella confusing..Reality owned the ganzi account? He sold it, and then along with turn and other progamer got paid to play it?
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 02:07:10
October 25 2011 02:06 GMT
#135
Sad, just sad... I thought they learned from the first time......(if its even true)
Randomize the world, and Life shall be given.
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
October 25 2011 02:16 GMT
#136
I'll repeat Chef's statement because it's 100% true:


tl;dr: TL jumps to hilarious conclusions because we literally have nothing better to do and we've become pathetic gossip mongers.
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
October 25 2011 02:20 GMT
#137
I have a hard time taking this seriously because the account was clearly shared/sold (probably multiple times) so that basically how are you supposed to tell who's on the account at any given time? Not that I'm familiar with BrainClan stuff at all.

Anyway, even assuming the allegations are true, this looks like a dumbass-stunt-that's-earned-a-wristslap offence: max of a couple months suspension, some kind of probation on the progaming license, etc.
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
October 25 2011 02:22 GMT
#138
On October 25 2011 10:52 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
It becomes somewhat relevant if the biggest 3rd party BNet server gets involved in the case with a lot of evidence supporting their side.

Not really... It's akin to JoeKim and Game bickering posts from iCCup drama. Especially considering the minilauncher that everyone has to use to play on Fish has trojans (whether or not you click no to the obvious adware) lol. I don't have too much respect for Fish sorry.

Honestly you read the details and you just think 'wow this is dumb who would write this.' On the surface you have the 'omg progamers are rigging amateur tournaments???' and underneath you have this really dumb story about who gives a shit losing a game on purpose to switch clans but some other crap I don't care about and what the hell and ok none of this proves anything about pro players participating in an amateur tournament (for which it's not clear the prestige, nor clear if anyone has respect for the organization of it, nor clear why progamers would want to rig it unless they are good friends and no one cares except the Korean version of JoeKim.

tl;dr: TL jumps to hilarious conclusions because we literally have nothing better to do and we've become pathetic gossip mongers.

And that's not the whole point of my post either.

I said that it was speculation from the beginning, if you missed that part when you started reading, stop jumping into the main details before skipping the disclaimers.
ppp
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 25 2011 02:30 GMT
#139
Reality and Turn be hustling.
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
October 25 2011 02:37 GMT
#140
Stop overreacting on rumors ffs
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