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GARO
United States2255 Posts
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m4gdelen4
United States416 Posts
On October 25 2011 04:35 GARO wrote: Until the gambling connection is established, we shouldn't overreact to the whole 'ringing for amateurs' thing. Agreed let's not overreact! Also, if it is revealed there is no connection to betting/fixing etc will the punishment be really harsh even though its an amateur tourney? | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On October 25 2011 04:31 Djagulingu wrote: Yeap, the man himself. As you see here. Btw I love when he writes '컨트롤' (Control) in chat, the part he drone drills (0.40). Man this is so bad. If this is real, my favorite 2 rookies will get some punishment, if it's not, my favorite afreeca bangsong joki will get sued. I don't know why people like this........ :'( that screaming killed me. | ||
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101toss
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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
I was going to write up a translation of wtf happened, but I did not for the sake of spreading false rumors. Some background (as far as I heard from 1a2a3a): GanziTerran and 1a2a3a weren't very close; infact 1a2a3a hated GanziTerran. 1a2a3a thought that Ganzi was Reality so he goes onto West, Reality says: If I'm Ganzi I'm going to quit Progaming. But later Ganzi and 1a2a3a became close after doing some 2v2s. Ganzi joins team NeOx (Scan's current Korean clan, along with 1a2a3a). In their match against some other team, Ganzi plays amazingly well but then loses the match, apologizes to the team, and tries to leave. HOWEVER, the backstory was that Ganzi had a request from the opposing team join the clan after the clanwar. So seems like Ganzi lost on purpose in order to quit NeOx, few negotiations behind the scene, and Ganzi stays on NeOx. Then again, Ganzi just shows up and disappears in the scene few times. There were some events in the middle (which lead to Reality and TurN confirming something for GanziTerran) which lead to BrainSlayeR (admin of BrainClan) to suspect something wrong here. Nonetheless, in Brain ClanWar finals, NeOx sends out GanziTerran thinking that its TurN. TURNS OUT, GanziTerran at the time was used by a SKT T1 B-Team player, so clan NeOx gets DQ'd and loses their championship (this happened week ago). After finding this out, 1a2a3a flips out, BrainSlayeR gives his 'evidence' of the "SO CALLED MATCH FIXING/PLAYING UNDER SOMEONE ELSE'S ACCOUNT FOR MONEY" to 1a2a3a, 1a2a3a makes it public. Problem got out of hand as 1a2a3a just started bashing Khan and those two players who were involved; don't quite remember where the 'broker' for match fixing came into play, but I've read somewhere that current owner of the ID of GanziTerran is related to some match fixing website (they said that Ganzi said himself (whoever he is) on bnet, haven't seen the evidence yet). [below KIM GA EUL section is what I read on pgr21, not by 1a2a3a] Kim Ga Eul shows up on pgr21 saying that they aren't aware of any 'scandal' at the moment and said that they've confirmed themselves that there weren't any problems with the two players (after Khan's coach talked with Reality and TurN). (However, I couldn't verify that it was actual Kim Ga Eul, need to do some IP checking) Day later, 1a2a3a says that the players have been punished, but we don't know on what basis or for what reason. Sums up the situation so far. (I'll edit/post more detailed version later, as I have to read again to make sure I got the stuff down right) [again from 1a2a3a] GanziTerran: 2000 Fish player. Seems like Reality had the ID for a long time, when a person known for smurfing comes up and says that he wants to buy the ID from GanziTerran for a high price. "Reality" (if he was the original owner). The person who bought the ID then paid few progamers and made them use the ID GanziTerran in order to hide that a non-progamer owned the ID. Then, when GanziTerran was being used by a SKT T1 B-Team gamer in the finals of BrainClanWars final, BrainClan caught them in action Disclaimer: RUMORS ARE RUMORS. UNLESS THERE'S OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT BY TEAMS AND/OR OTHER VISIBLE SIGNS THAT WE CAN 100% VERIFY, THE 'SCANDAL' ITSELF IS A RUMOR. Main source: some PGR21 articles listed here http://pgr21.com/zboard4/zboard.php?id=free2&page=1&sn1=&divpage=8&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=45736 | ||
ArvickHero
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On October 25 2011 04:48 101toss wrote: Why can't they get savior to smurf instead LOL!  This is rather sad news that people are smurfing in amateur tournaments ;; Not much else to say. | ||
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
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ndralcasid
United States524 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On October 25 2011 06:49 ndralcasid wrote: Money put aside, is it actually a big deal that they were smurfing for amateurs? not a huge deal but it's still a shitty thing to do, especially if this was an important amateur game | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
The person who bought the ID then paid few progamers and made them use the ID GanziTerran in order to hide that a non-progamer owned the ID sorry, the post is kind of convoluted. 'few progamers' is Reality and Turn? Or Reality the original owner and the identities of the smurfs is still unknown? | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:57 neobowman wrote: Oh wow. Glad it's not any high profile players this time. Khan Terrans are super promising rookies, they're the high profile players of tomorrow Hopefully this just ends up like the Hwasin-Calm matchfixing incident (overseas tourney) and just ends up as something they're shamed of, but doesn't really impact anything | ||
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iSometric
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Elroi
Sweden5570 Posts
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Dozle
Canada147 Posts
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JewJewBees
United States87 Posts
i can't find the thread right now but maybe it had something to do with this? ( then again that was such a long time ago the timeframe probably doesn't match up) | ||
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trexbqs
Malaysia1731 Posts
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